2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.
Sponsored by:

Bad Compression? - Video Inside

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-01-10, 12:12 AM
  #1  
Full Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
mrpoopie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Bad Compression? - Video Inside

Hey guys, I have a 91 NA, and the problems I am having are:

- I have to crank the car a couple times to keep the engine running cold.
- Once it warms up, it doesn't keep a constant idle. RPMs fluctuate approximately 100 RPMs up and down.
- I am having hot start issues. Most recently, I warmed up the car, made a short stop, and had to crank the engine multiple times within a 15-20 minute period to get it started again to drive home.

Last night, I ran a compression test, as you can see below. Is the engine's compression too low ? If so, is that the likely cause of the issues I am having?

The first two videos are for the front rotor, and the last video is for the rear rotor.

http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...t=IMG_0181.mp4

http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...t=IMG_0182.mp4

http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...t=IMG_0183.mp4
Old 12-01-10, 12:49 AM
  #2  
Are you experienced?

iTrader: (18)
 
jjcobm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Illinois
Posts: 2,099
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
It has compression of a tired engine but still good enough to run fine. 100 RPM fluctuation is ok, but this and the other issues tell me you have possible leaky injectors. Not too sure by what you mean cranking the engine a few times to keep it running cold? It sounds like the same "hot start" issue, only when cold starting correct? If so, leaky injectors.
Old 12-01-10, 12:49 AM
  #3  
whats going on?

iTrader: (1)
 
SirCygnus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: atlanta ga
Posts: 4,929
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
what part of atlanta do you live?
Old 12-01-10, 10:42 AM
  #4  
Full Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
mrpoopie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by jjcobm
It has compression of a tired engine but still good enough to run fine. 100 RPM fluctuation is ok, but this and the other issues tell me you have possible leaky injectors. Not too sure by what you mean cranking the engine a few times to keep it running cold? It sounds like the same "hot start" issue, only when cold starting correct? If so, leaky injectors.
So leaky injectors can cause this ? How would I go about finding out which injector is leaky?

What I mean is, if I crank the engine the first time on a cold start, it will stay on for about 7-8 seconds to die. I then have to crank the engine again, and then it will usually stay running.

Is it a possibility that when I try and hot start, that I am not getting enough pressure in the fuel lines, maybe caused by a failing fuel pump?
Old 12-01-10, 10:43 AM
  #5  
Full Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
mrpoopie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by SirCygnus
what part of atlanta do you live?
Smyrna, not too far away from Cumberland Mall.
Old 12-03-10, 11:27 PM
  #6  
Full Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
mrpoopie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Bump
Old 12-03-10, 11:29 PM
  #7  
whats going on?

iTrader: (1)
 
SirCygnus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: atlanta ga
Posts: 4,929
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
test things before you figure out what you need to do. leaky injectors? test. fuel pressure issue? test that.
Old 12-04-10, 10:32 PM
  #8  
Full Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
mrpoopie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by SirCygnus
test things before you figure out what you need to do. leaky injectors? test. fuel pressure issue? test that.
How do I test for leaky injectors?

I'm guessing for both a fuel pressure gauge would do the trick? For leaky injectors, see if there's a loss in pressure and for testing fuel pressure test and see if there is proper pressure going through the fuel lines?
Old 12-04-10, 10:57 PM
  #9  
whats going on?

iTrader: (1)
 
SirCygnus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: atlanta ga
Posts: 4,929
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
yup. simplest way to test is to tap into the fuel line coming out of the fuel filter and put a gauge right there. crank the car. it should have pressure, and hold it. not for ever, but if it says 35 psi or something arbitrary, and you walk away for 5 minutes, it should still be at the same psi.


also, your compression is fine.

just do a general tune up and send the injectors out to be cleaned.
Old 12-05-10, 12:02 AM
  #10  
This sh*t burns oil!

iTrader: (7)
 
SpikeDerailed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Charlotte, NC - USA
Posts: 1,239
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Just out of my own curiosity how many miles are on that engine?
Old 12-05-10, 12:02 PM
  #11  
Full Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
mrpoopie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by SpikeDerailed
Just out of my own curiosity how many miles are on that engine?
Around 135,000 miles.
Old 12-06-10, 10:14 PM
  #12  
Full Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
mrpoopie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by SirCygnus
yup. simplest way to test is to tap into the fuel line coming out of the fuel filter and put a gauge right there. crank the car. it should have pressure, and hold it. not for ever, but if it says 35 psi or something arbitrary, and you walk away for 5 minutes, it should still be at the same psi.


also, your compression is fine.

just do a general tune up and send the injectors out to be cleaned.
Cool. I will give that a shot when I pick up a fuel pressure tester from Harbor Freight.

I've already replaced the spark plugs, spark plug wires, coolant flush, and oil change. Hopefully that should be enough.

One other thing I noticed is when I fill my radiator overflow tank, after I drive the car around, the coolant in the overflow tank disappears. Should I be worried about this?
Old 12-06-10, 11:50 PM
  #13  
whats going on?

iTrader: (1)
 
SirCygnus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: atlanta ga
Posts: 4,929
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
i would check all the sensors to make sure they are in spec, and i would go ahead and send off the injectors to get cleaned. replace all the hoses and gaskets.

everything down to the engine block that can be replaced, will be.

also, i would run premix. i have a weird thing about me that says engine oil should not be burned in a combustion chamber.
Old 12-07-10, 08:54 PM
  #14  
Full Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
mrpoopie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by SirCygnus
i would check all the sensors to make sure they are in spec, and i would go ahead and send off the injectors to get cleaned. replace all the hoses and gaskets.

everything down to the engine block that can be replaced, will be.

also, i would run premix. i have a weird thing about me that says engine oil should not be burned in a combustion chamber.
Sensors have been checked, and all hoses, and lower and middle intake gasket has been changed.

I am premixing for this tank, since I had to replace the ECU and MOP since the MOP fried the ECU.

I will have the injectors cleaned when I find some time.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
rgordon1979
3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002)
40
03-15-22 12:04 PM
SCinfidel
3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002)
4
09-08-15 05:36 PM
Frisky Arab
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
5
09-04-15 06:17 PM
tiger18
3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002)
9
09-03-15 08:27 PM



Quick Reply: Bad Compression? - Video Inside



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:50 PM.