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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by sapomazda7
I go to the dealer Mazda today and they say to me that the recall expired and is not possible change the seat belt , any person can help me about that,
thanks so much Regards Jose.
Call Mazda. The number is in the thread posted above.

Maybe you could also go to a dealer that is more cooperative.

Good Luck!
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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 11:26 PM
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Hell no! I'd make the shop that bitches about it do it EVERY time! Not to mention there might only be one Mazda dealer within 100 miles of him.
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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 11:30 PM
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I wonder if the recall applies to PR because its not really part of US.
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by nycgps
I wonder if the recall applies to PR because its not really part of US.
I guess it's possible that the NHTSA has no jurisdiction there because it's a U.S. Territory and not an actual State, but a call to their help line would answer that question. I'd guess the recall still applies in Puerto Rico.
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Old Feb 23, 2011 | 03:01 PM
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i finally got my seat belts being worked on today lol
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Old Feb 23, 2011 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by nycgps
I wonder if the recall applies to PR because its not really part of US.
For your information, Puerto Rico is not a state of USA but is a territory and I have the same passport of you USA American , I call today to 1-800 number of Mazda and they say that the recall cover the car anywhere USA or Puerto Rico, I will go to the dealer again to see what happen,
( Social study Puerto Rico territory of USA)
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Old Feb 23, 2011 | 07:26 PM
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I don't think it would matter what country it was in if it breaks and it's still on the road then they have to fix it. I hope they don't give you any problems. Some dealers can be cool.
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 08:27 PM
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Just got mine replaced today at the local Mazda dealer. They didn't hassle me, infact they seemed extremely excited to replace the parts. So glad I did it, driver's side seat belt is as smooth as butter now!!
Can't wait for the passenger side to break too!!
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SpeedOfLife
do the S5's have the bosses to mount the manual seatbelts? this is actually one of the reasons I wanted my S4 versus an S5 so I wouldn't have to dick around with the belts.
I had manual seat belts in my s5, but is a vert. But I bet you could swap some of the parts around to get it to work for a coup.
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by sapomazda7
For your information, Puerto Rico is not a state of USA but is a territory and I have the same passport of you USA American , I call today to 1-800 number of Mazda and they say that the recall cover the car anywhere USA or Puerto Rico, I will go to the dealer again to see what happen,
( Social study Puerto Rico territory of USA)
technically speaking PR is NOT part of US, like you said its territory, just like Guam. you know what territory means right ?

question is did u get it fix.
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by George84
I had manual seat belts in my s5, but is a vert. But I bet you could swap some of the parts around to get it to work for a coup.
The S5 Verts all had manual belts; Mazda phased in a driver's side airbag sometime in late 1989 if I recall correctly, so there was no need for the stop-gap motorized belt solution in the 'Verts.

There are a number of threads about putting manual belts in an S5 coupe. It can be done, but there are some issues with making the installation look clean. Canadian S5 coupes are a decent source of donor parts because they had black manual belt interiors available, or you can get S4 coupe manual belt and interior parts and dye or paint them. However the headliners are slightly different, interior B-pillar plastic trim is different, and getting the A-pillar plastic trim to work is one of the bigger challenges. If you search, you can read more of the details. Another issue is that officially, this kind of modification would be illegal since you'd be altering the factory belts, so you could run into issues with your insurance company or state of registration.
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 06:03 AM
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The S4 manual belts will bolt right in to a S5, the S4 interior plastics, not so much.
It's relatively simple to modify your stock S5 plastic to work with the manual belts and I'd keep the S5 a-pillar trim if at all possible but if not, S4 parts can be used with a bit of creative install.

In Colorado at least, they don't even check if seatbelts are installed and my insurance company never asked.
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 10:52 AM
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I think the worst case scenario would involve an accident that results in injury in a car in which you've modified your seat belts. I would not be surprised to find the insurance company trying to deny you coverage in that situation. Of course your insurance company isn't going to know you've changed the belts unless there's an accident and a claim.
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by nycgps
technically speaking PR is NOT part of US, like you said its territory, just like Guam. you know what territory means right ?

question is did u get it fix.
If P.R. not part of USA why I have a USA passport and American $$$$$$$$$$
Is like District of Colombia is a state of USA?
For you information I go to the dealer and order the seat belts to replace them due to the recall.
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Old Mar 2, 2011 | 02:03 PM
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If anyone has any links to show where the seatbelt is under lifetime warranty could ya put a link here. I had my seatbelt system done back in 2002. Mazda now says that since the work was done and closed that if I have any issues with it (like I do now) then I pay for it out of pocket.

edit: NVM I found what I was looking for. now to get the NHTSA and mazda on the same page. wish me luck lol
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Old Mar 2, 2011 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by sapomazda7
If P.R. not part of USA why I have a USA passport and American $$$$$$$$$$
Is like District of Colombia is a state of USA?
I guess you still don't get the word "territory". whatever.

For you information I go to the dealer and order the seat belts to replace them due to the recall.
that's good for you. but you need to find the word "territory" in a dictionary.
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Old Mar 3, 2011 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by sapomazda7
Hi for all I am Jose from Puerto Rico I have a 1990 that have the seat beat damaged, I just have to call the 1-800-222-5500 gave them the vin number and they game me something to go to the dealer?
If any person can help me it will be appreciate,
Thanks so much best Regards from Puerto Rico
Jose.

I had mine fixed at the Mazda dealer on 65 de infanteria, but that was 15 years ago or so...
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Old Mar 3, 2011 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by nycgps
I guess you still don't get the word "territory". whatever.



that's good for you. but you need to find the word "territory" in a dictionary.
Thi is a language barrier issue, give the dude a break (or explain it in spanish lol)
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Old Mar 3, 2011 | 02:56 PM
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The issue of PR's status is pretty ambiguous, so everyone should chill a bit on that; Puerto Ricans are US citizens, but do not get to vote federally, for example. It is a US territory and US regulations apply there, which is why Jose has an RX-7 with mouse belts, which were only for the US market, in response to US regulations for "passive" restraints, which Mazda, like many others, unfortunately choose to implement with crappy automatic seatbelts instead of airbags for models that were in mid-run.
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Old Jun 8, 2017 | 05:17 PM
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Sorry to revive an old thread. I can attest to Mazda stating that the recall was done. I called Mazda and spoke to a representative. The seatbelt motor and rails are covered for life with no cost to the owner. I went to Mazda dealership in La Puente CA. They replaced the rail and motor. Unfortunately it still isn't retracting. They stated there is a wiring problem and it would cost $140/hr to look into it. Speaking to the head mechanic he thinks something isn't plugged in correctly and/or there is a bad relay because the motor isn't getting power. Can anyone confirm where the motor gets power from? My driver side is working fine with no issues.
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Old Jun 8, 2017 | 11:11 PM
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I think they are in charge of making sure that the controversial automatic seat belts that they installed in the car is working properly is the warranty, not just the track and motor. They designed how the system works and promised to make sure it works. That's my take on it, call mazda corporate or take it to a different dealer. But I might start with a symple volt meter and check around first.
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Old Jun 9, 2017 | 01:19 AM
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So, since this thread was necroed anyways I may as well ask. On this 90 GTU/GXL (Not sure which exactly), a lot of the rear interior is ripped out, and the pillar trim is gone everywhere. The seat belt on the passenger side works, but just barely (Super slow, hesitates in the middle, probably on its way out, but it still works for the moment.)

Now the issue is, the driver side was unscrewed and disconnected. But I still have the motor and track, as it was just in the hatch with a few other loose interior pieces. I connected it back to the connector to try and see if it worked, but it did not. I'm going to check and see if the connector is giving it any voltage at all, and if it is, would that belt be covered under the warranty still?

If it's not, then I guess I'll need to find a real comfy bucket seat.
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