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Old May 12, 2026 | 11:33 PM
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'88 N/A no start after emissions delete

Hello all, I have a '88 N/A and I'm experiencing a crank no start.

I've done the following deletes:
Air pump, charcoal canister, cruise control, OMP, BAC, vacuum rats nest.
I have used the Bonzai Racing block off kits for the all of the associated deletes as well. EGR, BAC, ACV, Sub zero, OMP.

I've plugged the vacuum lines on top of the upper intake manifold that were going to something that I deleted.
My issue right now is there is a crank no start where the car seems to not want to start at all almost like there is no compression and I promised it ran amazingly before lol. I suspect that maybe the vacuum system is a possible cause considering I removed the rats nest of lines. My question would be if anyone has done this series of deletes before and can give some pointers as to what's actually necessary and what I should be blocking off, I read forum posts and watched some YouTube videos but I must've missed something. I'd appreciate any help I can get.
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Old May 13, 2026 | 04:49 PM
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Sorry to hear of your troubles. I have only completed the EGR delete. It is probably best to do one delete at a time and adjust idle. etc as you go. By deleting the rats nest, you opened a can of worms.

I did a search of "rats nest delete" and came up with many threads. Why anyone would want to delete that stuff without going stand alone is a bit of a head scratcher.

I will give you a bump, best wishes.



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Old May 13, 2026 | 06:02 PM
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Step 1: Put it all back
The only thing you might consider deleting is the EGR and ACV on the side of the engine, and the associated air pump. The sub-zero can be deleted as well, but please post a pic of these items so we can be on the same page as what you are listing.

Step 2: Keep everything as close to stock configuration as possible.
The rats nest has a connotation of being something you don't want, but the vacuum system on an FC performs a ton of functions, especially at idle and should be kept in good order. Once stuff is put back together, then you can start adjusting.
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Old May 14, 2026 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff76
Sorry to hear of your troubles. I have only completed the EGR delete. It is probably best to do one delete at a time and adjust idle. etc as you go. By deleting the rats nest, you opened a can of worms.

I did a search of "rats nest delete" and came up with many threads. Why anyone would want to delete that stuff without going stand alone is a bit of a head scratcher.

I will give you a bump, best wishes.
Realizing now that it’s not as simple as I had hoped haha, but regardless that’s alright. It ran absolutely perfect beforehand the only thing that broke was the return fuel line from the lower rail that I had to take the upper intake manifold off to get to so I figured I should delete everything while I was under there. I appreciate the response.
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Old May 15, 2026 | 10:43 PM
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Not quite sure why some of my replies are going and some aren't but here are some pictures that I've taken today. I was in the middle of troubleshooting which is why the intake tube is off and such.
https://imgur.com/a/7L6Eo2L (the forum photo picker wasn't working for some reason)

I thought I might have cranked it for too long over the past couple of days so I took out the spark plugs and removed the fuse so I could purge the excess fuel if any from the rotor housings. I also took off the upper intake manifold and disconnected the feed fuel line so I could check if I was actually getting fuel and fuel was indeed coming out. In the photos you can see that I have blocked off a lot of vacuum connectors and nipples for coolant from the BAC on the dynamic chamber. I am just curious given what I've deleted that may cause this, and if I should reconnect anything back.

There is a also a giant hose which I believe to have belonged to the air pump still existing, I know I still have yet to remove but I am also curious if this could cause such an issue. I tried blocking it with my hand and having someone else crank the engine and nothing. I am worried that if I were to crank it for a long time I could flood the engine or break something, there is a grinding noise that sounds like the starter possibly going out which was there before. Could it be that I'm not cranking it long enough after removing the BAC and the car being sat for around 3 months?

I'd appreciate any help with this thank you.

EDIT:
On the last photo in that album there is a coolant hose that leads from what I believe to be a line entering the BAC back into the red section of the motor. Could someone also confirm if that is true? I read that you would have to reroute the coolant lines if the BAC was deleted I just want to make sure I did that correctly.

Last edited by joystick; May 15, 2026 at 10:46 PM.
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