6 Port Turbo Vert Questions
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6 Port Turbo Vert Questions
I am finishing up my 6 port TURBO setup and it is nearly ready to install along with the fresher motor. I am going to list everything I have and make sure I am well covered, if there is ANYTHING you see missing from this list PLEASE post what else I am going to need. Thanks
Current Mod list:
Lower Milage Good compression 6 Port 13B
S4 Turbo 2 upper/ lower intake manifolds milled and modified along with blockoffs Port matched to form with 6 port block
S4 Turbo 2 Throttle body
S4 Turbo/wategate (minimal shaft play)
S4 TMIC reay to mount up front
S4 T2 front cover w/omp
Waterlines re-routed from intake cavities
Efan as well as clutch mounted
S4 downpipe
NEW 13b N/A clutch
17" Gunmetal Exel MIMI wheels 35mm offset sit flush and have a fat lip
Well that is about all I have right now, is there anything I am missing? So far the setup including the motor has only cost me $350 the intercooler may be upgraded as a friend of mine found a site selling the intercooler and piping for FMIC for $250. I figure a boost gauge and Air fuel ratio guage may be needed (duh) but other then that it shouldbe done for under $700. I bought 2 N1 style fart cans and the piping from the front will run about $100.
So anything else before I stick this motor in here? BTW I know 6 port isn't the best idea in the world but I will be ordering a J-spec in the summer of 06 and needed this setup to get me through the next autox season.
Current Mod list:
Lower Milage Good compression 6 Port 13B
S4 Turbo 2 upper/ lower intake manifolds milled and modified along with blockoffs Port matched to form with 6 port block
S4 Turbo 2 Throttle body
S4 Turbo/wategate (minimal shaft play)
S4 TMIC reay to mount up front
S4 T2 front cover w/omp
Waterlines re-routed from intake cavities
Efan as well as clutch mounted
S4 downpipe
NEW 13b N/A clutch
17" Gunmetal Exel MIMI wheels 35mm offset sit flush and have a fat lip
Well that is about all I have right now, is there anything I am missing? So far the setup including the motor has only cost me $350 the intercooler may be upgraded as a friend of mine found a site selling the intercooler and piping for FMIC for $250. I figure a boost gauge and Air fuel ratio guage may be needed (duh) but other then that it shouldbe done for under $700. I bought 2 N1 style fart cans and the piping from the front will run about $100.
So anything else before I stick this motor in here? BTW I know 6 port isn't the best idea in the world but I will be ordering a J-spec in the summer of 06 and needed this setup to get me through the next autox season.
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I have seen a couple setups that utilized the Stock pump, and injectors, I have 2 extra injectors from a turbo I sold a while ago. Fuel Controler..hmm any ideas on that?
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I'd personally never use n/a pump and injectors on a turbo application... Think about it, the stock TII with lower compression and less port area used 4x550cc injectors and a higher flowing pump, so why would it make sense on a turbo'd n/a to keep the n/a injectors?
As far as fuel controller, an Apexi s-afc is an easy one to use.
As far as fuel controller, an Apexi s-afc is an easy one to use.
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I have been using my NA clutch since my TII swap and it has been holding up great Trevor. I am sure dropping the clutch from high RPM's will make it slip, but thats a no no anyway on the NA driveline.
I want to see this vert man! It sounds sweet.
You know those vert wheels would be perfect on my FC.
I want to see this vert man! It sounds sweet.
You know those vert wheels would be perfect on my FC.
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No it wont hurt anything to use the T2 pump but it will hurt something to not use it. Also you said 700 more $ and mentioned a AFR gauge but a Wide band gauge will run you that +++ alone so I take you are betting on a narrow band and that will not be tunable. As far as fuel controller either use a TII ECU with a TII PS and AFM or use a SAFC,MS-Nspark,E-manage for budgeted applications.
Ordering a JDM motor is in no way any bettor then turboing your 6pi
Ordering a JDM motor is in no way any bettor then turboing your 6pi
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I've made 166whp with 440s @ 25psi and 12:1 afr on a stock port NA 6-port with S5 electronics. If you have any kind of decent fuel control that allows you to alter on time a set of 440s can get you 200whp at stock fuel pressures without issue. How much power you shooting for?
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I am not really looking for a HP #, I really am just trying to make up the extra loss in speed from the cumbersome Vert's extra wieght, and translate that into a competitive drop top to autocross in........ not looking for Serious power just a little more pickup with the Snail strapped to the side... HP means little to me, the torque is where it's at.. Hence the 6 port motor's higher compression, I need acceleration...
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youll really love the extra tourqe the snail will give ya. i know i sure did. i kinda sucks below 2 grand but more than makes up for it above that. with a leaking exhaust manifold gasket i was seeing boost as low as 2500 rpm's!! curious as to what ill see after the leak is fixed...
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Oil??? T2 have better oil pumps. Did you upgrade yours? thermopellet mod?
higher PSI regulators oil/fuel?
improved cooling? besides e-fan, bigger rad
tranny rebuild? new bearings/seals/synchros and a good synthetic...
higher PSI regulators oil/fuel?
improved cooling? besides e-fan, bigger rad
tranny rebuild? new bearings/seals/synchros and a good synthetic...
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Haven't touched the oil setup.... It seems like that is a little more involved then what I was looking for, I am running a grassroots turbo setup, basics to keep her boosting without breaking my bank. The setup will be removed in the summer for the "ACTUAL" T2 swap....
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Do not use NA injectors in a turbocharged engine. Everyone I have seen do so has blown their engine in short order. Most of the time their excuse is "Well I only want like 200 HP". That's great and all, until the first boost spike or a little bit of happy time with the right foot. At LEAST get larger secondaries, as 720 CC units are cheap.
Edit...Oh, and a fuel pump.
Edit...Oh, and a fuel pump.
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I have two 550's I'd sell ya if you wanted. Nice looking vert btw and I would change out that na clutch. It should work fine for a while but why waste the time installing a new one after it goes.
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Originally Posted by C. Ludwig
I've made 166whp with 440s @ 25psi and 12:1 afr on a stock port NA 6-port with S5 electronics. If you have any kind of decent fuel control that allows you to alter on time a set of 440s can get you 200whp at stock fuel pressures without issue. How much power you shooting for?
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