Tranny
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From: San Francisco, CA
Originally Posted by FDNewbie
Also, is this variable affected by traction control systems?
Originally Posted by FDNewbie
As for your other factors, here ya go:
Understood. But I was actually referring to your comment to Howard, re: suggesting he use a Getrag PPG w/ a 3.73 rear. He's running an FD, so he can use a 3.9 on the stock diff no prob.
Understood. But I was actually referring to your comment to Howard, re: suggesting he use a Getrag PPG w/ a 3.73 rear. He's running an FD, so he can use a 3.9 on the stock diff no prob.
Originally Posted by FDNewbie
Oh and btw Dave, please don't take my line of questioning as being confrontational. Rather, I'm just trying to learn about the things I'm overlooking
Originally Posted by patman
tire slip is such an open variable that there really is no reason to include it in formulae (CONSIDERING STOCK tii is an H rated 205 serisw tire on a 7" rim, wheres I'm running a race compund 275 on a 9, and etc). generally you compute ratios with no tire slip included because that is a function of the specific car you are running and has nothing to do with gear ratios. it may limit top speed slightly, but when comparing trannies for street or road racing that isnt really a factor. as long as you use the same forumula for all trannies being considered the specigfic variables arent that important.
pat
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Competitive race teams, be it on a road course or drag strip will always account for tire slip when gearing a car for a particular track (or 1/4 mile). The competition is usually too close not to and would be foolish to dismiss it. There are methods (i.e. software/hardware) for accurately estimating tire slip. You can even end up with negative tire slip such as with tire growth. Think of Top Fuel dragsters.
The important thing is as you stated though, just keep all variables the same when doing comparisons. I agree it is not necassary for street cars or for most of us but you have your way, I'll keep mine.
Last edited by RX-Heven; Mar 12, 2007 at 10:29 AM.
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If anyone is interested I was quoted a big discount for an order of two PPG gearsets and an even bigger discount for three or more. Realistcally I'm just hoping one other person is game as I think more than that is a tad bit optimistic.
The set includes both input and output shafts, gears/dogs, billet shifter forks.
-----------------AUD-------US---
List price ---$9000----$6975
Two sets ---$7995----$6255
Shipping is about $200 (US) a set.
Ramy, c'mon dude....
The set includes both input and output shafts, gears/dogs, billet shifter forks.
-----------------AUD-------US---
List price ---$9000----$6975
Two sets ---$7995----$6255
Shipping is about $200 (US) a set.
Ramy, c'mon dude....
Last edited by RX-Heven; Mar 12, 2007 at 10:49 AM.
Originally Posted by enzo250
Would you guys be interested in a turbo II transmission with dog gears?
I can have a complete tranny with ratio's of your liking installed for alot less then the cost of ppg gears..
I can have a complete tranny with ratio's of your liking installed for alot less then the cost of ppg gears..

Does it have the xxxx input and xxxx mainshaft?
Originally Posted by RX-Heven
If anyone is interested I was quoted a big discount for an order of two PPG gearsets and an even bigger discount for three or more. Realistcally I'm just hoping one other person is game as I think more than that is a tad bit optimistic.
The set includes both input and output shafts, gears/dogs, billet shifter forks.
-----------------AUD-------US---
List price ---$9000----$6975
Two sets ---$7995----$6255
Shipping is about $200 (US) a set.
Ramy, c'mon dude....
The set includes both input and output shafts, gears/dogs, billet shifter forks.
-----------------AUD-------US---
List price ---$9000----$6975
Two sets ---$7995----$6255
Shipping is about $200 (US) a set.
Ramy, c'mon dude....
Originally Posted by RX-Heven
If anyone is interested I was quoted a big discount for an order of two PPG gearsets and an even bigger discount for three or more. Realistcally I'm just hoping one other person is game as I think more than that is a tad bit optimistic.
The set includes both input and output shafts, gears/dogs, billet shifter forks.
-----------------AUD-------US---
List price ---$9000----$6975
Two sets ---$7995----$6255
Shipping is about $200 (US) a set.
Ramy, c'mon dude....
The set includes both input and output shafts, gears/dogs, billet shifter forks.
-----------------AUD-------US---
List price ---$9000----$6975
Two sets ---$7995----$6255
Shipping is about $200 (US) a set.
Ramy, c'mon dude....
Originally Posted by enzo250
Would you guys be interested in a turbo II transmission with dog gears?
I can have a complete tranny with ratio's of your liking installed for alot less then the cost of ppg gears..
I can have a complete tranny with ratio's of your liking installed for alot less then the cost of ppg gears..
Originally Posted by enzo250
Would you guys be interested in a turbo II transmission with dog gears?
I can have a complete tranny with ratio's of your liking installed for alot less then the cost of ppg gears..
I can have a complete tranny with ratio's of your liking installed for alot less then the cost of ppg gears..
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From: Abingdon, Md
Originally Posted by RX-Heven
If anyone is interested I was quoted a big discount for an order of two PPG gearsets and an even bigger discount for three or more. Realistcally I'm just hoping one other person is game as I think more than that is a tad bit optimistic.
The set includes both input and output shafts, gears/dogs, billet shifter forks.
-----------------AUD-------US---
List price ---$9000----$6975
Two sets ---$7995----$6255
Shipping is about $200 (US) a set.
Ramy, c'mon dude....
The set includes both input and output shafts, gears/dogs, billet shifter forks.
-----------------AUD-------US---
List price ---$9000----$6975
Two sets ---$7995----$6255
Shipping is about $200 (US) a set.
Ramy, c'mon dude....
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From: Abingdon, Md
Originally Posted by crispeed
I see our friend has finally delivered. 
Does it have the xxxx input and xxxx mainshaft?

Does it have the xxxx input and xxxx mainshaft?
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From: San Francisco, CA
Originally Posted by crispeed
Another cool gear calculator.
http://www.markwilliams.com/calculators.aspx
http://www.markwilliams.com/calculators.aspx
I do like the slider though.
Originally Posted by ErnieT
I paid $6500 installed in my case from Andrewtech Automotive in Gaithursburg Md. Ask for Andrew....240-683-1000
That is a great price, especially considering the PPG gearset you got for your stock mazda case lists for $500 (AUD) more than the Supra 6-speed set. That is also weird since the mazda set only has 5 vs. Supras 6 gears and does not include (except by request like you did) input and output shafts.
fwiw, if I decide (likely not) to use the stock case, Enzo quoted me a much better price and with a (claimed) wider range of ratios and parts availability.
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From: Abingdon, Md
Originally Posted by RX-Heven
fwiw, if I decide (likely not) to use the stock case, Enzo quoted me a much better price and with a (claimed) wider range of ratios and parts availability.
Originally Posted by ErnieT
Just curious why everything has to be so "secret". If we are all in the same community/family, then what is there to gain in keeping it to yourself? This applies to everything, not just this topic.
I was asking as to which components were being used and Enzo promptly replied.
No secrets there.
Originally Posted by RX-Heven
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Enzo quoted me a much better price and with a (claimed) wider range of ratios and parts availability.
Enzo quoted me a much better price and with a (claimed) wider range of ratios and parts availability.
Ernie does not like people holding out on him! So you better quote that price Enzo gave you or else!
Originally Posted by GT1-20b
Announcement:
Getrag W-160 6 speed ...OEM for Supra TT 2Jz adapted to Mazda 20b/ 13b
" TOTALY BOLT ON KIT "
No fab work, no welding, completly BOLT ON. and w/ off the shelf related components.
All CAD, CNC'd & Water Jet.
Adaptor plate, Dedicated Starter, Hardware, Trans Mount, Anular Release TO bearing,
Shifter Tripod, Instructions, Everything !
You supply gearbox
- Pictures and website coming soon !!
GT1-20b
Getrag W-160 6 speed ...OEM for Supra TT 2Jz adapted to Mazda 20b/ 13b
" TOTALY BOLT ON KIT "
No fab work, no welding, completly BOLT ON. and w/ off the shelf related components.
All CAD, CNC'd & Water Jet.
Adaptor plate, Dedicated Starter, Hardware, Trans Mount, Anular Release TO bearing,
Shifter Tripod, Instructions, Everything !
You supply gearbox
- Pictures and website coming soon !!
GT1-20b
ok so i read the thread and the supra trans sounds like an awesome idea. i wasnt sure which gearsets were put into the calculator but what would be the RPM with a supra trans in an FD with 3.90 rear @ 70MPH in 6th gear? with both the V160 and V161?
Originally Posted by 94tkt
ok so i read the thread and the supra trans sounds like an awesome idea. i wasnt sure which gearsets were put into the calculator but what would be the RPM with a supra trans in an FD with 3.90 rear @ 70MPH in 6th gear? with both the V160 and V161?
@ 70 mph. on the 3.9 w/ V-160 & a 25.4" tire : RPM = 2853
same as above, with the V-161 RPM = 2954
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From: Abingdon, Md
Originally Posted by RX-Heven
Just took delivery of my Getrag and Supra aluminum driveshaft for $1800 shipped 

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http://www.supraforums.com/forum/index.php
pm me if you want the username of the seller.
He shipped quick and was very straight forward. He said he occasionally comes across them.
The tranny is not new and is in need of a rebuild. That is pretty much the going rate for them in said condition. The seller made clear it is drivable but didn't recommend installing it as is.
I am installing the PPG gearset and would only do so if I could source a tranny in this condition.
pm me if you want the username of the seller.
He shipped quick and was very straight forward. He said he occasionally comes across them.
The tranny is not new and is in need of a rebuild. That is pretty much the going rate for them in said condition. The seller made clear it is drivable but didn't recommend installing it as is.
I am installing the PPG gearset and would only do so if I could source a tranny in this condition.



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