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Old Jun 1, 2002 | 12:48 PM
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Sizing 3 turbos for a 3 rotor

Ok, I'm just thinking out of my *** here... trying to be original, insane, watever you want to call it.

I need to find 3 smaller turbos. I was thinking of T3/T4 hybrids... 60-1 HiFi front side and a T3 stage 3 exhaust wheel side with internal wastegate.

I'm not saying I'm doing this, but its a possibility, plus I thought it may start up some conversation in this section.

Also, would staggering the a/r on the exhaust side, say, a .48, .63 and a .82.... would that be a bad idea. the lower ar would run out on the top end, but the larger ones would be there to support top end. I'm just thinking that if you did this, you would always have 2 turbos in their power range. Or would it be better to just go wth 3 turbos with the same AR. This won't be a sequential system, but all turbos would be running at the same time... essentially, one turbo per housing.... and with an internal wastegate, the manifold would be easy (relatively)

What would the perfect turbo be for a 1 rotor application?

I don't want to boost more than 20 psi, and would like to stay at 15... shooting for 650 rwhp. Feedback?

I'll probably go with a single turbo, but a 3 turbo setup would just be so damn cool!
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Old Jun 1, 2002 | 07:50 PM
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Yep, T4/T3 hybrid (60-1 might be a little too big) or a bunch 'o GT2835's.



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Old Jun 2, 2002 | 02:54 AM
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yeah I was just going to say 3 GT28 or GT2835's would do it.

and at 1200 a pop its not a bad idea :0
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Old Jun 2, 2002 | 11:29 AM
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Where can you find information on these Garret turbos? 1200 bones each, thats a bit too much dough.... but it would be badass.....

What about a set of 16g or 20g turbos... like the DSM guys use? Any thoughts on that?

And what about staggering the A/R like I described above?
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Old Jun 4, 2002 | 08:51 PM
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Hey go out buy 3 grand national turbs for like a grand and have fun till they break. lol
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Old Jun 4, 2002 | 09:38 PM
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Im putting twin 2835's on a 2-rotor right now. We shall see how they perform.
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Old Jun 5, 2002 | 12:38 PM
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Originally posted by protlewski
Hey go out buy 3 grand national turbs for like a grand and have fun till they break. lol
This is what I've been thinking... either the GN turbos or possibly a set of 16g or 20g turbos (of DSM fame) would do the trick.

Kind of just thinking out load... but wouldn't it be cool?
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Old Jun 6, 2002 | 12:27 PM
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Hey go out buy 3 grand national turbs for like a grand and have fun till they break. lol
Till they break??? I know several guys from TMS that have never changed out thier stock cats and they have owned the cars since they were new, and they dog the hell out of them.

However they might be the exception not the rule to GNX's
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 04:28 PM
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Hyperex forwarded me this awesome 20B triple turbo setup. its not quite what I'm going for, but its freaking cool as all HELL, and it belongs in this thread

I'm sure most of you have seen this, but its time to post some drool material

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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 07:39 PM
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note the stock ignition, ignitor boxes over where the brake master would be if the car had one. they are either running stock ecu or motec, and no brakes (!)

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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 07:57 PM
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note the stock ignition, ignitor boxes over where the brake master would be if the car had one. they are either running stock ecu or motec, and no brakes (!)
LOL, I also may have to use a Tilton pedal assembly because it looks like the SPO rules require the roll cage to extend through the firewall where the master cylinder is. Hopefully I am reading too much into the rules, as I really like my power brakes.
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 09:46 PM
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That's what my friend wants in his REPU. Watch out Dodge and Ford V10 trucks! Uh, if he could afford it that is.
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 05:07 AM
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I am assuming here that pic is of a JC Cosmo engine bay due to its size, and it looks very similar (the pic is a bit dark to say the same as) to ours.

so, its right hand drive. There fore the brake booster is on the right (left in pic) behind the turbo out of sight I think (and if it is there, it would be tight). Igniters etc are on the left (right in pic)
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 05:32 AM
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Originally posted by Bitchn7
I am assuming here that pic is of a JC Cosmo engine bay due to its size, and it looks very similar (the pic is a bit dark to say the same as) to ours.

so, its right hand drive. There fore the brake booster is on the right (left in pic) behind the turbo out of sight I think (and if it is there, it would be tight). Igniters etc are on the left (right in pic)
From what I have heard previously, I think that is a FD (from one of the Japanese tuners).
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 08:35 AM
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A big hint is look at the shock towers.&nbsp If you don't know your own shocks towers by now, you should be shot.


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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 09:49 AM
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A big hint is look at the shock towers.&nbsp If you don't know your own shocks towers by now, you should be shot.


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That's the one annoying thing about FC's: You can't go too far from the motor with a turbo without hitting the strut towers.
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Originally posted by Evil Aviator

LOL, I also may have to use a Tilton pedal assembly because it looks like the SPO rules require the roll cage to extend through the firewall where the master cylinder is. Hopefully I am reading too much into the rules, as I really like my power brakes.
nah, you dont like the power brakes, the engine doesnt have a fitting for it anyways, so look at how much work that saves

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Old Jun 13, 2002 | 06:46 AM
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Duh, well actually now that I look, you can see the bloody headlight kit to show its an RX-7, my **** up.
Oh, and the radiator on an angle should have been a give away. The engine bay looks very long in the photo, never though the 7 bay was that long, duh
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Old Jun 14, 2002 | 12:26 PM
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God that pic looks so sweet.

I just want a 20b-tt


hey that would be a cool licence plate "20b-tt"
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Old Jun 17, 2002 | 01:13 AM
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Originally posted by 13BAce

That's the one annoying thing about FC's: You can't go too far from the motor with a turbo without hitting the strut towers.
If you think the space in that area on FC's are tight then you've never seen the same area on a FD!
In my experience 1st gens have the most space followed by 2nd gens with the 3rd gens having the least unless you've ever had to stuff a large single on a 13B in a Miata chassis!

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