because 99% of the time people never complete a swap. A $5k driveline is useless if the epic setup never runs.

complete the swap first, get the $40,000 dollar investment fully functional, and now that liability has become a recoverable asset.

At that point, it then makes total financial sense to spend $5-6k on upgraded driveline. There's not much to it. Break the trans, take it out, swap in the t56 etc. All this stuff is mechanical bolt-on. Hard part is over, building the engine, wiring, fuel, ignition etc

What gets old is running out of cash to get the car running. Issues on the dyno, unforeseen coolant problems, firing order misprogramed. These are the kind of things that are real issues. Breaking a $250 transmission is a success in my book.

 

Oh Yea I totally agree with that. the stock box will let you dyno car and set up engine and Control strategies. which is what I'll be doing. then sell stock box before it's lunched to recover a little money. if you guys can pick up stock box for 250usd that's ok but down here in nz the standard going price is $700 nz debut I do agree with your statement above

 

or this lol i'm just out of my mind and did everything in one shot lol

 

You guys are right, in that the end result is a t56, tko etc is a necessity to extract the full potential from something like a 20b, 26b etc

And I do agree with you guys on that.

Its just from personal experience, and being a newb with this 4 Dorito long box, there's so many other more important things to tackle first.

The single biggest challenge is projecting an accurate budget. It usually ends up twice as much and twice as long.

For me, all the stuff coming up is already like drinking water from a fire-hose LOL

 

I don't Envy that side of things for you(paying for this beast) . but OMG so jealous that you are doing this. the engine probably not to expensive buying from us here. your dollar works this way at the moment. not so good buying my tko lol. $6500nzd once all taxes and freight paid. I was lucky I bought most my build supplies from the US couple years ago when we were getting 90c+ for our $.
did Warren have time line for your build. I havnt seen what there schedule is like lately

 

also forgot to ask other day when I read about going with ppre. did you consider CBR for a engine?brent is regarded as one of the best for 4 rotor setups?

 

Damn that's pricey for a trans! But I'd bet its unbreakable. You'll be shifting like a 787b man. What is your engine setup going to be and what chassis? FD?

Yes right now, $0.65USD will buy $1NZD so its tremendously, a year ago it was completely inverted. But, it looks like the kiwi is trending back upwards, so that goods for you guys!

Man, PPRE is a joy to deal with. Warren has a solid timeline in place. And I've got plenty of work in the mean time.

Just tore this roller down to absolutely nothing, literally nothing. I'll post up some pics here soon and begin the new thread. This weekend is a rotisserie for the frame, painting the underside, the roll cage, etc. Hoping to have everything making sense and seeing light at the end of the tunnel by may.

 

yeah your on a whole other level you sick f*ck lol you def need to just get yours running before doing anything else

 

it's not to expensive at your end. I believe it's only 3000usd from liberty gears, but getting it here exchange and then taxes. adds up quick.(being at bottom of the world we get reamed on freight.) then steel bell housing(so I keep my feet) and extended shifter to retain factory center console. clutch,driveshaft . all adds up quick. will be a 10g nzd ordeal lol. going in a FC with a 9180.same box and clutch set up as green brother's wagon. they are lighter but putting 840hp through it and they treat it mean and it loves it.
im glad you have a structured build plan. it's so easy to deviate and waste money(like me) but also as with your old setup being as impressive as it was, it can spiral out of control and be a bit overwhelming. I can only imagine the extra involved with the quad.
I'm not sure how much you have/are revealing but did you mention the turbo?

 

That trans setup sounds wicked. Iv watched the vids of that 900hp wagon on the power cruise. He beats the hell out of it and it takes it! Sounds like you're soon to be having a fun time. Id really like to see pics of your install.

I did talk to Brent. Talked to him for a solid hour about the build and he was extremely knowledgable and helpful. He instructed me to email him and he'd get back to me on quotes etc. Well I waited a solid month, never heard from him.

Warren was on point with quotes, customer service, etc so went with PPRE. Both of them most be great options.

 

yea maybe I'll look at starting a build thread.
its a bit of a wait as I only made order through Greenbrothers to liberty leading up to Xmas. its due here end of February start or March. I believe Liberty, are or have moved facilities which is a massive undertaking for a company with as much Gear as them.
yea I guess when your on other side of world and spending what you are you want and need good communication. maybe he was to busy playing with his quad rotor quad turbo lol. Crazy cat.

 

Yes rotate, I spoke with liberty a few weeks back about having a tko faceplated and they spoke of that relocation. Paul was the guy who was speaking, and mentioned it could be anywhere from march to early may until a trans would be ready, if ordered at that time. So i hope you get it soon enough, but a heads up from what ive heard

And yes 4 rotors 4 turbos, amazing lol. Damn I want to go to nz!

 

Wise words. I want to urge all ambitious DIY'ers to take note.

Get the car running, then worry about making it "bullet-proof" as people like to call the process. Truth is nothing is bullet-proof, as much as the market and the forum try to force you to make your car in a way dictated by some transient fashion trend. I personally find the "bullet-proofing" process fun when the car is running. It can be stressful as hell when the money is pouring in but the car isn't running.

IMHO, "doing it right the first time" is a delusion. You'll want to continue to improve it. It will never be perfect in your eyes. Enjoy the process.

 

the only reason why i did most of the stuff with the engine and diff is because the stuff fell in my lap at a good price i really couldn't pass it up lol but i agree just get it running and go from there

 

can't blame you there. One of my favorite parts is a random nascar part I bought on whim on ebay. Monster, are you turbo'ing your 4 rotor?

 

a rotary engine without a turbo is an untapped gold mine

 

lol. that's nuts! btw, is the 4 rotor 12a or 13b housings?

 

re-dubya housings

headed to pickup 4 transmissions tonight, I can't wait to break stuff

 

what? I don't get it.

you'll break plenty of stuff. You can count on it!

 

But sometimes when the mine is tapped...it kills the land around it

4 huh...what are you going to do for bracing?

 

A rotary without a turbo is just not right Seriously makes me very sad. I'm happy for you but still makes me very sad. NA is always a nice pipe dream but never lives up to the hype. A liner power band after having a 2 and now 3 rotor with an unnatural power band is going to be boring. It just is. Not saying its going to be slow, it going to be awesome, but it will not be the same sensation at all. I predict you will feel old and flaccid if you go NA. Maybe not but you might. Don't risk it

 

Hahaha you guys are awesome and yes this thread is boring without pics, guess im gonna have to reveal some progress this weekend

Neutron, it is going to be turbo lol

 

Life just got better! Can't wait to see pics!

 

I forgot to ask you, which turbo are you going with ?

 

s480 again, 1.32AR full size this time