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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 04:49 PM
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Yeah, raced out cobras are a dime-a-dozen. 20b FD's are rare like hen's teeth. Hell, any FD is getting rare.
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 05:05 PM
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Just go slow, steady, and don't stop! Focus on the priority pieces of the puzzle first. Oh, and most importantly F*CK cobras My buddy has one with around 750rwhp and I can't wait to kick that things ***. Everyone has one down here in "bama.
Best advice ever for people building 20b or even 4 rotors.

For the years I've owned my fd, every time I open my garage door a smile comes across my face. I'm barely getting stared on my 20b build and feel like I am spending a crap ton of money, BUT am excited for what the final result will be.


Mustangs....there was a reason why ford stopped producing rx7s after 95 before being taken back over from Mazda :-p
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Monsterbox

Budget wise:

I tried to have all the $ accounted for up front. Still ended up way off mark. I tried to order every damn part before the build and ended up with a room full of parts that I must have wasted hours looking through during the build.
I did the exact same thing. Engine parts wise, I ended up selling everything I pre-bought because once I finally figured the direction I wanted to go, I knew then I needed to become my own fabricator/inventor/engineer/ect. Every case is different. Stay the course and,just push through.
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 11:52 PM
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The mind can play tricks on you, you must play tricks back.

For me it was quite a leap to have saved money for the past 6 years for this swap and then watch it all vanish instantly before the car was even complete. Each hang up seems like the end of the world, because you realize the financial waste if you can't make it through. At this point, you gotta say f*ck it and ride the storm lol!
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Old Jan 7, 2015 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Monsterbox
The mind can play tricks on you, you must play tricks back. For me it was quite a leap to have saved money for the past 6 years for this swap and then watch it all vanish instantly before the car was even complete. Each hang up seems like the end of the world, because you realize the financial waste if you can't make it through. At this point, you gotta say f*ck it and ride the storm lol!
Amen!
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Old Jan 7, 2015 | 01:46 AM
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I agree 100% I just need to keep pushing.
Lol I have some buddys with terminators and they say they miss their fd's. I just get tired of the money pooring out my as*.
As far as a 1000hp it definitely wont be this motor but 600-800 will be ok
I wish someone local had a 20b that i could drool over and kick start the motivation train.
MORE VIDEOS GUYS hehe. so I can daydream

As for a 4 rotor.. I sold my 4 rotor last winter because I honestly like the sound of 20b's more and the way they look in the engine bay...... yes yes I know i must be weird or something
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Old Jan 7, 2015 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by silverfdturbo6port
I agree 100% I just need to keep pushing.
Lol I have some buddys with terminators and they say they miss their fd's. I just get tired of the money pooring out my as*.
As far as a 1000hp it definitely wont be this motor but 600-800 will be ok
I wish someone local had a 20b that i could drool over and kick start the motivation train.
MORE VIDEOS GUYS hehe. so I can daydream

As for a 4 rotor.. I sold my 4 rotor last winter because I honestly like the sound of 20b's more and the way they look in the engine bay...... yes yes I know i must be weird or something

Heres A Walk Around
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cC_...ature=youtu.be
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Old Jan 7, 2015 | 01:43 PM
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Beautiful!

Would you be able to guide me to a wiring diagram? I'm going to start wiring up my adaptronic ecu to harness and links seem to be broken when I search :-(.
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Old Jan 8, 2015 | 09:57 AM
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^Nice walkaround vid. Working on getting the tach functional?
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Old Jan 8, 2015 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Broke_A_Baller
Beautiful!

Would you be able to guide me to a wiring diagram? I'm going to start wiring up my adaptronic ecu to harness and links seem to be broken when I search :-(.
http://www.adaptronic.com.au/forum/i...p?topic=5540.0

Once your installed Make sure you have the firing order setup 1-2-3 in the software, the basemap was incorrect initially. You'll see this under "period angel offsets" you want to see 0, 120, -120

Keep an eye out on those +12 and +12 switched wires, they can be a little confusing, label them and seperate them before you put the ECU in the car. Some of the reds are +5 and others are +12, it may be hard to tell the difference later on.

Also, the middle rotor ignition trailing or leading, can't remember which, is brown/grey or orange/grey. When you look at the wire is may change colors slightly going from brown/grey to orange/grey later on in the length. Make sure you look at the actual pin on the ECU for this one to ensure you have the correct wire.
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Old Jan 8, 2015 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by RCCAZ 1
^Nice walkaround vid. Working on getting the tach functional?
I haven't worked on it. It would be cool, but honestly the Defi Tach, mounted on the Dash is great and easier to see / faster response so I haven't really any use for the OEM tach
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Old Jan 8, 2015 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Monsterbox
http://www.adaptronic.com.au/forum/i...p?topic=5540.0 Make sure you have the firing order setup 1-2-3, the basemap was incorrect initially
Thanks!

I will look into that!
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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 10:57 AM
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I updated the 20b base map on the Adaptronic forum a while ago and I am in the process of emailing everyone who is installing one.
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Old Feb 2, 2015 | 07:47 AM
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Whats up with this? Im dying to see a few kill vids!
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Old Feb 2, 2015 | 11:45 AM
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Waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting for a tune its 'ready to eat the street.

Ray Wilson from PFS was to come tune the car in late Feb, but I haven't had confirmation yet.

If anyone has suggestions for a tuner that may be within 8hrs of driving from Birmingham, shoot here!

Jesus from Kilo is about 8 hrs from me!




Updates:

- primary fuel pump has been whinning after around 2hrs of run time. I think it is overheating, and the FP begins to bounce. Fairly certain it may be worn out from running the tank dry at first startup a few months back. Replacing with a new Walbro 400 this week.

- Ordering maxxis RC-1 275mm 17'' tires for the rear

- Taking the spare mipipe, chopping it up and installing a down-turn tip to dump exhaust under car open pipe Stay tuned for some vids this should be nasty.


Other than that, not much else left. I could post a few boring crusing videos, but its more fun to wait for the real deal!

Thanks!
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Old Feb 2, 2015 | 12:01 PM
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I thought Elliot/Andy where going to tune the car?

Jesus only tunes PFC and Microtech i think, dont know if he works with other ecu´s.
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Old Feb 2, 2015 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by unwritten-dinasty
I thought Elliot/Andy where going to tune the car?

Jesus only tunes PFC and Microtech i think, dont know if he works with other ecu´s.
To make a long story short, there were some things that needed correcting and there ended up not being enough time while they were here to tune, besides that, the engine has probably benefited from having more break-in time.

Hopefully Ray will be able to work some magic if he ends up coming through town!
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Old Feb 3, 2015 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by unwritten-dinasty
I thought Elliot/Andy where going to tune the car?

Jesus only tunes PFC and Microtech i think, dont know if he works with other ecu´s.


I think he tunes Haltechs now. That's the ecu David Hayes runs on his 20b.
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Old Feb 3, 2015 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by t-von
I think he tunes Haltechs now. That's the ecu David Hayes runs on his 20b.
I'm going to give him a call soon thanks


Side note;

T-Von, do you think a hose from the iron oil vent to a catch can is enough or should I tap the filler cap and run a -10?
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Old Feb 3, 2015 | 01:26 PM
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That is not enough, throw everything you did with your 13b-rew out the window. I run a -8 AN line from my filler neck to the oil catch can.
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Banzai-Racing
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Thanks, so much going on I overlooked that one



Curious, where do you have the line on that iron going?
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Old Feb 5, 2015 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Monsterbox

I'm going to give him a call soon thanks

Side note;

T-Von, do you think a hose from the iron oil vent to a catch can is enough or should I tap the filler cap and run a -10?

I'm no help on this part because im NA. My crankcase doesn't pressureize as much as you guys. I run the fd pvc off the upper oil fil neck to my throttle body and leave the iron port plugged.

Edit: I just checked and my iron port is vented to atmophere. I need to cap it otherwise the pvc isn't doing its job.
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Old Feb 5, 2015 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Monsterbox


Thanks, so much going on I overlooked that one

Curious, where do you have the line on that iron going?
That was the first attempt with a -4 AN line off the iron...useless.

Capped it and tapped the filler neck.

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Old Feb 5, 2015 | 01:34 PM
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ahhh ok gotcha
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Old Feb 7, 2015 | 08:20 PM
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had to work so I didn't make it to C&C but all my friends have been tagging and posting pics of your car on my wall. Looks good. Keep it up
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