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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 09:57 AM
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What is the best mod for 1981 rx7

How can I get the most power from my rx7 ?
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 09:59 AM
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Put a massive turbo on it
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 10:24 AM
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v8 swap
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 10:25 AM
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 10:34 AM
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oh thats a good one. my search button added 127whp

the v12 out an old aston martin vanquish S is also a direct swap
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 04:26 PM
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Look at the 1st gen FAQ. It is the 4th thread in the sticky threads at the top of the main 1st gen page. Simple answer is start with a free flowing exhaust system. Probably want to look at the third thread also and download a copy of the Factory Service Manual.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 12:51 AM
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oh thats a good one. my search button added 127whp

the v12 out an old aston martin vanquish S is also a direct swap
No **** really!? V12?!
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 07:20 AM
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Another DD
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 11:18 AM
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Ya a v12 swap with a massive turbo would do it ,but I think that i will check out the FAQ page
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 05:16 PM
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What's your budget & what are you using the car for?
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 12:21 PM
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Jeeze, where did all the smart asses in this forum go?

As stated, research first. But here are the basics:

Exhaust
Carb
Porting of the motor/engine swap/turbo

Most of it depends on what you want out of the car, and how deep your pockets are.




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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 02:11 PM
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In the order I would go, where you're looking for "power":
- Racing Beat Exhaust System
- Sterling Carb
- Fuel System Upgrades to go with your Sterling (Mallory, Carter or Holley pump, Holley 1-4psi FPR, ReSpeed fuel pressure gauge)
- Lightweight Flywheel (Racing Beat lightweight steel is good, and so are their street/strip clutch discs and pressure plates)
- Ignition Upgrades (search 2GDFIS, DLIDFIS, Transistor Trick, or if you're feeling adventurous you could build a Megasquirt and only use the Ignition portion of it with a 2nd Gen CAS and Coil)
- Rebuild and Port the Engine

But before you go for "power" you should get a bit of "control"
- Brakes (Hawk Pads, Stainless Steel Lines, New Rotors, maybe look at the awesome Re-Speed Big Brake kit)
- Springs (RB, Eibach)
- Shocks/Struts (KYB, Tokico)
- Sway Bars (RB, Re-Speed, Suspension Techniques)
- Bushings (Poly in front, Stock-style rubber in rear)
- ReSpeed Rack and Pinion Steering Kit (worth its weight in Gold in my opinion)

This post should be entitled "How do dump a ton of money on awesome upgrades for your FB in about 5 minutes"

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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 02:12 PM
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Oh, and if you swap a piston engine in, most of us are gonna smack you... before we ship you off to the "Other Engine Conversions" subforum where you'll be very much welcome

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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 02:17 PM
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 03:21 PM
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A good driver.
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 04:29 PM
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+ 1 on control mods. Make sure you can control the darn thing first. Then go crazy, just don't put anything in it that remotely might have pistons.
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 04:46 PM
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Stu has got it. A good driver is all you need with a 12A (a 12A's a 1st gen, for you young guys). Anybody driving 12A's because of the testosterone injection has their head up their ***.

It's about the Zoooom, the breeeeezzzzz of that rotary engine sounding like an air pump at 80 mph, cruising down the interstate using up all that road the other cars can't.

It's the Rotary Love, all 1100 cc's and 130 HP, just making you happy. Who needs more than that?

Just make sure you've got a good chassis, a properly tuned Nikki and go.

PS: An RB exhaust also helps.
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ray green
Stu has got it. A good driver is all you need with a 12A (a 12A's a 1st gen, for you young guys). Anybody driving 12A's because of the testosterone injection has their head up their ***.

It's about the Zoooom, the breeeeezzzzz of that rotary engine sounding like an air pump at 80 mph, cruising down the interstate using up all that road the other cars can't.

It's the Rotary Love, all 1100 cc's and 130 HP, just making you happy. Who needs more than that?

Just make sure you've got a good chassis, a properly tuned Nikki and go.

PS: An RB exhaust also helps.
I'm confused Ray.. First you say 12a = First Gen (what about the GSL-SE?) then you say 1100cc = 130hp (1146cc = 101hp for the 12a, 1308cc = 135hp for the 13b)

Either you're trying to confuse the newbies, or that alzheimers is setting in early

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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 06:45 PM
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I will also second the "control" aspect. I compete in autocrosses, and do quite well. I do this with extensive suspension modifications, a nice carb, exhaust, but with a completely stock 12a. Even with the stock motor, I always say that I've never lost a race due to a lack of horsepower.

Do things in this order, and you can't go wrong:

1. Safety (brakes, steering parts, bushings)
2. Reliability (tuneup items, removing what doesn't have to be there, replacing worn equipment).
3. Performance (suspension, tires, carb, exhaust)
4. Appearance (why waste a good paint job by continually working on the car?)
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 07:08 PM
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Jon, 13B's were experimental 12A's. They didn't quite work out right. Good thing they were discontinued. And the extra 12A HP (101--> 130 HP) comes from the RB exhaust, best thing you can do to your FB. I'm not going to argue the Alzheimer's.

Now if we could just get Mazda to focus on the 12A again, get back to basics, we'd be ready for the 4th gen RX-7. Gonna look like a first gen of course. Can you imagine, pop ups on a 2012 vehicle? YES!

Now Kent, on the racing thing, you are probably correct, HP (+ some handling) = Win
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 09:22 PM
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130hp on an unported 12A, with only exhaust mods?

unless you mean bhp... certainly not at the wheels
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 09:40 PM
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I think he means the 130 that the RB exhaust gives with the optional muffler bearing kit...

Ie: once he said the 13b experimental thing I knew he was joking

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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 09:40 PM
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I think he means the 130 that the RB exhaust gives with the optional muffler bearing kit...

Ie: once he said the 13b experimental thing I knew he was joking

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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 09:02 AM
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I have more than just exhaust mods but its a stock port 12a with 108k on it and I
get 134 whp. See my sig for the mods.

I changed some things since that dyno run and I expect I gained at least more
torque if not actual horse power.

See my sig for suggested mods. They all contribute in some way.
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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by t_g_farrell
I have more than just exhaust mods but its a stock port 12a with 108k on it and I
get 134 whp. See my sig for the mods.

I changed some things since that dyno run and I expect I gained at least more
torque if not actual horse power.

See my sig for suggested mods. They all contribute in some way.
I was only pushing 105rwhp last time I dyno'd but that's on stock timing and...

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