Turbo'ing....
12-25-04, 04:05 PM
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yeah but i'm also looking for oringinality... like how many people with FBs turbo there engine... like dont do a T2 swap.... not alot... so thats another thing i want... plus it will cost ahella more to do a swap then to do waht i wanna do.... but we;ll see
12-25-04, 04:13 PM
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i'm not lazy... i'll be doing everything my self... i mean most expensive as in... i'll need a custom drive shaft and engine mounts... which will cost alot to get made... the only fab i'd need for my engine is the spacer and the downpipe... which will cost me 2 cases of beer LoL! so yea...
12-26-04, 06:14 PM
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Well,if your not looking for much performance or reliability,then a TII swap isnt completely neccesary.The reason I recommend it is because the EFI TII powerplant is best suited to guys that are looking to make big power and not blow up.
Its all about starting with the right platform,so that costs stay down.The TII engine may cost a little more up front,but it wont blow up 1-2 years later costing even more $$ to repair.Stock, 200hp TII engines regularly last 80-100K miles when pushing a 3000lb FC.200HP-200LbFt in a 2500lb FB is quite quick, and much less work for the motor.
You can get a complete TII engine/trans from a local U-Pull type wrecking yard for a few hundred bucks,like I did with my first engine.It may not last long,but youll have EVERYTHING you need,including a core to have rebuilt.Or a complete Jspec TII engine with 30K miles can run anywhere from 1000-1800 bucks,depending on where you go,and their warrantee system.A TII tranny is easy to find on Ebay from a private buyer for a few hundred bucks.
Like I said,theres nothing wrong with turboing a N/A engine,but its trickier from a tuning/fabrication standpoint.It can be cheaper initially,but blowing the motor during the tuning stages,just trying to reach stock TII power levels,can be disheartening and costly.
Its all about starting with the right platform,so that costs stay down.The TII engine may cost a little more up front,but it wont blow up 1-2 years later costing even more $$ to repair.Stock, 200hp TII engines regularly last 80-100K miles when pushing a 3000lb FC.200HP-200LbFt in a 2500lb FB is quite quick, and much less work for the motor.
You can get a complete TII engine/trans from a local U-Pull type wrecking yard for a few hundred bucks,like I did with my first engine.It may not last long,but youll have EVERYTHING you need,including a core to have rebuilt.Or a complete Jspec TII engine with 30K miles can run anywhere from 1000-1800 bucks,depending on where you go,and their warrantee system.A TII tranny is easy to find on Ebay from a private buyer for a few hundred bucks.
Like I said,theres nothing wrong with turboing a N/A engine,but its trickier from a tuning/fabrication standpoint.It can be cheaper initially,but blowing the motor during the tuning stages,just trying to reach stock TII power levels,can be disheartening and costly.
12-26-04, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TEA_ESS_EYE
Things i will not include in my kit are turbo timers, boost controllers,
basically my kit will come with the following
1X series 5 turbocharger in known tested working condition
1X series 5 exhaust manifold modified to clear the lower intake manifold
1X stock downpipe or a 2.5" or even 3" racing beat downpipe for an extra cost
1x stainless steel braided oil feed line with proper fitting to put into the stock oil pressure sending tap on the block
1x stainless steel braided oil return line (you gotta tap the front cover sorry
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1x Vortech Fuel management unit
1x volvo 740 front mount intercooler (some modifications needed to fit)
1x all the pipes, fittings and clamps needed to plumb the intercooler
1x 1Gdsm bypass valve with proper hoses and stuff to vent it to the intake
1x intake pipe with connectors and adapter to put the AFM in front of the turbo intak
1x generic pre oiled con filter with proper intake piping
and last but not least instructions for this "kit"
depending on what i have to pay for parts i will more than likely charge roughly a grand for this kit
basically my kit will come with the following
1X series 5 turbocharger in known tested working condition
1X series 5 exhaust manifold modified to clear the lower intake manifold
1X stock downpipe or a 2.5" or even 3" racing beat downpipe for an extra cost
1x stainless steel braided oil feed line with proper fitting to put into the stock oil pressure sending tap on the block
1x stainless steel braided oil return line (you gotta tap the front cover sorry
)1x Vortech Fuel management unit
1x volvo 740 front mount intercooler (some modifications needed to fit)
1x all the pipes, fittings and clamps needed to plumb the intercooler
1x 1Gdsm bypass valve with proper hoses and stuff to vent it to the intake
1x intake pipe with connectors and adapter to put the AFM in front of the turbo intak
1x generic pre oiled con filter with proper intake piping
and last but not least instructions for this "kit"
depending on what i have to pay for parts i will more than likely charge roughly a grand for this kit
I can be your test dummy on a higher mileage rotary (120k Miles)...
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12-26-04, 08:12 PM
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heh,
Alright, I need to know for sure though if you're serious about doing the kit, if I start saving up a grand and find out its not going to get produced ill be mad!
I make a good $200.00 a week from work; I usually use about $100 for bills and what not so I should be good to go in as little as two-three months! (I do get side income from web design, I still need to find a better job, if anyone wants to hire a 130 WPM typist or someone who can put together a computer with his eyes closed that would be great!)
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Alright, I need to know for sure though if you're serious about doing the kit, if I start saving up a grand and find out its not going to get produced ill be mad!
I make a good $200.00 a week from work; I usually use about $100 for bills and what not so I should be good to go in as little as two-three months! (I do get side income from web design, I still need to find a better job, if anyone wants to hire a 130 WPM typist or someone who can put together a computer with his eyes closed that would be great!)
Thanks,
Eric M. Pelezo
12-26-04, 10:03 PM
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ahahaha greg yoy got buys already!!! you'll be rich as a **** now! lol i think i may do this for my canadian buddies... but i need your permission of course... lol ttyl bud! oh and btw the i found a turbo manifold and turbo for i believe S5 for 400 bucks up here.... perfect condition.... yummy!! lol cant wait to start! talk to you on msn bud!
12-27-04, 12:12 AM
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thanks web, i totally spaced the fuel pump
and eric, yes i am TOTALLY serious on doing this, it may take awhile on my part to save for the parts on it, unless you want to do like an insured pre payment (for your protection/ personal satisfaction) for me to be able to get the **** done way faster
and eric, yes i am TOTALLY serious on doing this, it may take awhile on my part to save for the parts on it, unless you want to do like an insured pre payment (for your protection/ personal satisfaction) for me to be able to get the **** done way faster
12-27-04, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by web777
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Don't forget the fuel pump. You got pics yet?
Don't forget the fuel pump. You got pics yet?
if anyone has a fried beyond repair s4 turbo that they would want to donate me for my test dummy for fitting that would rock (ill pay shipping of course )
12-27-04, 12:53 AM
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dude... i've been looking for a turbo and manifold for my car.... doing the same as greg since he is kinda helping me out... lol!!! greg if you dont take that manifold and turbo i will!! lol
12-27-04, 01:19 AM
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Well,
I don't want to send money to you if I don't get the product unless you're talking about something like $100 a week and I'll have a turbo in ten weeks?
Thanks,
Eric M. Pelezo
I don't want to send money to you if I don't get the product unless you're talking about something like $100 a week and I'll have a turbo in ten weeks?
Thanks,
Eric M. Pelezo
12-27-04, 04:20 AM
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well you will get the product, see i will be paying about 850 bucks alone for parts, the extra 150 dollars is for the time its gonna take me to do all this...
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