84FBturbo

i plan on running a 13B in my 84 Gs.
i am wondering if i should go supercharged (camden 7in) or go with a turbo?
i am looking for performance and also driveability. and of course, boost, boost boost! haha
thanks.

dj55b

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whats the power output you're looking at?

Alot of people will say that the turbo route is the cheapest which probably is true, and it won't be too bad for you since you have a 13B, because you could just purchase used setup from a TII car or any other ones available. Its us 12A guys that have to make a little bit more custom work, such as custom manifold, custom fuel injection or boost prepping a carb, upgrading to a FI pump and that means bigger lines, and more after market stuff, And if you get just something thats regular sized turbo and run about 8-10psi to achieve about 200rwhp or so, then it would still be very streetable too. I would try not to go above 250ish you really want it as a DD but with a little fun when you need it. Just my opinion

85rotarypower

The turbo will cost about half what a supercharger would on a 13B as you can readily get the parts off a 2nd gen TII, as stated above. Both would net you the same type of drivability and power most likely, but with the turbo you can have the oh so cool BOV psssh sound.

84FBturbo

thanks to both of you.
thats 2 for the turbo.
0 for the supercharger.

(i do love that pssh sound of the BOV!)

Druken

I personally like the supercharger. I'm actually thinking about supercharging my s5 n/a once the transplant is done into my SA. With the SC you should get better gas milage/less harsh to the motor/get the sound it whining up "ZIP ZIP!", which I think is orgasmic /and should provide constant boost. Might not be as much boost as a turbo, but still... constant boost

If anything that I stated above is wrong, please say so.

84FBturbo

thanks.
if it was possible, i would put both.
but... i cant.
thats 2 for turbo.
1 for the supercharger.

dj55b

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I'm going super charger myself though but I don't think I will be using the camden .. will most likely use the Rotrex and I can still install a BOV with that type

Nicholas P.

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camden camden camden all the way!

The turbo and supercharger cost the same if you count out parts.


-nick-

Rx-7Doctor

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First of all welcome to the forum.

As far as using a used Turbo I strongly recommend against it. I see too many turbos for sale that state little or no shaft play and have heard people installing them and have a fog bank behind them. Go new only on a Turbo.

The turbo route involves alot more fabrication and alot more parts involved but can get you the most Hp. If you stick carb'd it will be alot simplier. When you get into F.I. there is awhole lot more involved.

As far as the Superchargers go. It is the simplest to install. Very few mods involved and instant HP with no lag time. Again using a Carb is the simplest way.

Of course both routes should start with the appropriate fresh engine build.

z-beater

TURBO... if you go with a supercharger I reccomend agains the Camden, there are way more efficient systems out there.

Atkins Dan

Here we go again with yet another Pissing contest {my Turbo is better than your SuperCharger ect...ect..}
Here are some things you need to ask your self..

1. What do you want to do with the car???
2. How much boost do you REALY want at the end of the day???
3. What do YOU want a Turbo or a Supercharger???

Yes both systems have there ups and downs but what the real question here is what do YOU want at the end of the day....

Dan

Atkins Dan

I will add that the Camden is the ONLY supercharger business that make a bolt on kit for the Rotaries...


Dan

PercentSevenC

I've ridden in a supercharged RX-4, and the instant-on boost is unbelievably awesome. And the Camden setup is not significantly more expensive than a turbo, when you consider all the other stuff that goes with a turbo. The boost is not huge, but it adds a lot of power nonetheless. They're also very easy to set up.

The Rotrex seems pretty interesting to me, too. Sort of a cross between the two. If it was me I'd take a look at that, as well.

K-Tune

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turbo

EvilJester

do both ..

josh...just josh

I've heard of some guys using the eaton superchargers from gm cars and the such and they can do it on the cheap (though make sure that you use a bypass valve). I like the idea of just a little boost on the rotary. I'd like to get up to around 200whp someday and I'm thinking that 8 psi should do about that (maybe not though though..might take more). how many of you guys are boosting n/a cars? what kind of boost/power are you making? Fairly low CR and 3mm apex seals...thinking my SE needs some boosting love!

Rx-7Doctor

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Newbie, start your own thread if you would like answers to YOUR questions.
This is why when we go to do a search that there is too many cluttered threads.


Oh, before you post your thread, do a search. But use specific wording like Supercharger or 3mm apex seals. We have found that if you put too much info on the search function that you will get alot of non-ralated topics.

Atkins Dan

well before you add boost to ANY enngine you will need to do a rebuild on it first...

Dan

bad 83

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I decided turbo for a couple of reasons. 1-Part availability. 2-Initial cost involved (buy a piece here then there). 3-I wanted the challange of building my first blowthrough. Dan, I love you superchrger setups, but with a 6 month old eating up most my funds these days, I dont think I'll ever be able to afford one. I would love to have both! The turbo 83 FB GSL, and my supercharged 80 SA! Man, you think the neighbors are pissed at me now, just think if I had both. Woot!!!!

Atkins Dan

I understand on that level as my Wife is due about Aug 8th 2007 with out first.. and Hey think of all the fun you get to have with your 6th month old and ordering parts here and there to build up your 288 month old baby {83 Rx7}....

Dan

84FBturbo

dont you own this company?

thanks to all who have replyed.
espicially doctor and dan.
they made me think about a really important question.
wht do i want.
i think i am leaning toward the supercharger at the moment.
we'll see when the time comes. thanks.

and what other good brands of superchargers are there for the rotary?

Atkins Dan

Well sort of my Mom & Dad own CamdenSuperchargers.com AtkinsRotary with the newest addition to the atkins family WWW.Pulleyboys.com ...

I help them run AtkinsRotary and Camden wile there out and about running arrons for all the business....

Yes there are other good superchargers out there it just will require you to make a intake manifold and pullies to make them all work with the rotary...

Dan

84FBturbo

thats cool.
a rotary dedicated family.

so can you give me some examples and etc that i could do? like what superchargers are out there that will work with the rotary and etc.

Tsi_Xtreme

I say go turbo... because when you get the 200whp that you want, it won't be enough! TRUST ME! I was setting out to do the same thing, except I went ahead and had mine built for a proper size turbo in the future. I made 250whp which was exactly want I THOUGHT I wanted. Turns out I really want about 350 Since I did everything else to support big par I can just now upgrade the turbo when I get the cash after my tax return.

200whp just isn't enough! Once you see your car at 200 you'll want to see how it performs with more! Just for the record 250whp makes this car feel awesome.

REVHED

Amen. ^