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Old Sep 4, 2002 | 07:25 PM
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turbo or porting? what should i do?

i want my car faster!!! so i dont know if i should turbo it, or port it. my engine has 125,000 on it, and its still running strong, it has new apex seals as about 30,000 miles ago i would say. i just dont know what one is cheaper and what one is more efficient. oh yeah its a stock 12A right now.
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Old Sep 4, 2002 | 07:54 PM
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How does your engine have 125k miles, and the apex seals 30k?
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Old Sep 4, 2002 | 08:02 PM
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it's a combination of your budget vs. how fast you want to go...

it's your call
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Old Sep 4, 2002 | 08:49 PM
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the guy i bought it from said that the new mazda seals were put in. i know it can be done, and i know it is hard as hell. but anyway, thats what he told me, he is full of **** so who knows. but i would like to know what would be the most for my money, turboing or porting.
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Old Sep 4, 2002 | 08:59 PM
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the guy i bought it from said that the new mazda seals were put in. i know it can be done, and i know it is hard as hell.
I think somebody lied to you. You can't change the seals without taking the engine apart and rebuilding.

You can't port an engine without taking the engine apart and rebuilding.

You can put a Turbo on your engine in without doing either.

You should do all the bolt-ons before you even consider either. You can extract significant power to a rotary with bolt ons.
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Old Sep 4, 2002 | 09:00 PM
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well, replacing the seals = rebuilding the engine... so your engine has 30k on it not 125k if he's telling the truth
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Old Sep 4, 2002 | 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by Directfreak
You can't port an engine without taking the engine apart
agreed...

and rebuilding.
Disagree. Done it myself. Works great if you start with decent parts.
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Old Sep 4, 2002 | 09:25 PM
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I plan on doing a TII motor and tranny swap over the winter. Funds permiting that is. Thats just me though.
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Old Sep 4, 2002 | 09:41 PM
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Disagree. Done it myself. Works great if you start with decent parts.
Understood. I think we are both on the same page.
However, to me, - rebuilding, using the same parts after they are clearanced and checked out is the same as using a new part. Many parts on a rotary rarely need replacing.
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Old Sep 4, 2002 | 10:50 PM
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You should do all the bolt-ons before you even consider either. You can extract significant power to a rotary with bolt ons.
I agree with this. Exhaust all the options you have with bolt-ons, re-learn how to drive your car ... and then if you're still not satisfied, consider which choice suits your driving style and power goals most, in order to make your decision.

Generally speaking, horsepower isn't "cheap", so neither porting or turbocharging is going to be. However, if you set your budget wisely (that's pronounced "realistically") you should be able to make the best decision for you.
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Old Sep 4, 2002 | 10:52 PM
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Speed costs money.

How fast do you want to go?
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Old Sep 4, 2002 | 11:42 PM
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Speed costs money.

How fast do you want to go?
I am so sick of hearing this. Reality bites, I guess.
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 09:13 PM
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well i bought this car for a sweet *** car, and i just want it to get about 90, 95 in the quarter. it does 80 now, but my 91 buick does that too, i mean come on its a sports car and it should go like it tooks. if you know what i mean. so i guess i want to go fast enough, i dont need a 10 second car, just fast enough to put ya back good. feeling acceleration is the COOLEST feeling in the world for me and i want to feel it more!!!!
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 09:34 PM
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well, definitely start with bolt-ons, then. if all you want is bigger kick in the ***, then you can get it from bolt-ons.

what have you done so far?

if nothing, then start with a good exhaust system ... header, silencer, muffler, the whole works! then you can move on to other things ...
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 01:43 AM
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turbo or porting? what should i do?
Both . Thats what Im doing eventually .

~T.J.
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