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Old 02-14-02, 12:04 AM
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Sub Zero Starting Assistant

Have any of you ever used this device? I didnt even know my cars had it until i read aobut it in the manual, and then sure enough, theres a little tank under the hood for the mixture stuff...

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Driven a turbo FB lately?

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Its suppose to work when extremely cold. It injects a mixture of 90% antifreeze and 10% water into the manifold and into the motor, to aid in compression in really cold starts...

My 88 and my 85 dint have it they were cally cars, but the 80 did...
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yeah, i know what it is and what it does, i was just wondering if anyone has ever actually used it...
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Its suppose to be automatic... If you look under it the motor has 2 wires sticking out of it, well those 2 wires go to a temp sensor and when its below the temp it closes the circuit to actuate the motor upon starting...

On my 80 the plug was the same as the windshield sprayer plug and I accidently got them reversed and guess what freezing cold as hell it didnt spray anything on my window so I guess it didnt work...
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hmm..well in the Haynes manual it says some crap about disconnecting stuff, switching wires...so on and so fourth to get it to work, then you put it all back and start the car...

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Here's how to fix it:

Remove the bottle
Tape off the wires
Plug the hose
Throw bottle in the garbage can
Kick back and have a drink

They rarely work because the motors sieze up from lack of use, and the benefit is dubious... there is a TSB for the FCs (not sure about FB or SA) that basically details how to remove the SZA system because it doesn't do anything. I don't know if FDs even HAVE the system in them...
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I think it is just extra weight. and its ugly. probably got 20 + years of moldy anifreeze water mix. The bolts came in handy for mounting my fuel pump on my 80.
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I've got a Calif SE also, so no container, but my Son's SE has one....
Of course we dumped the anti-freeze, cleaned it up and refilled it with our favorite automotive liquid....MMO

Denny, from the 'ol corncrib
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damn... that's a good idea Denny, looks like I'm gonna have to go buy another gallon of MMO though, mines about half empty.
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haha...great MMO injectors...this could be worth something

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Yeah, the place where it was on my 88 vert made a nice place for my alarm's siren. Also the little motor (if it still works) makes a nice replacement for the winshiled wiper fluid resorvoir...
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a fellow club member "wont say who" told me that he put nos octane booster in his,the hooked it up to a relay with a nitrious type shifter button,he said "it helps" helps what?i dunno?just thought you guys would enjoy that one,kinda reminds me of the guy that hooked his factory smog pump up to his air box,you guys remember him?he just posted that last month,cant remember who he is.oh man,what to do with these guys.
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the funny part is the air pump already is mounted to the airbox... when it's not injecting to the exhaust ports or converter it just dumps the air back in the air cleaner

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Or the guy that came here and got 1 of my 25 smog pumps I had sitting around here, said he was gonna make a turbo outta it

Man what dummasses
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Rofl... But that's a GOOD idea! Put MMO in it! I may take it out and do that... Of course down south the temps never reach 0 F... So it's useless... What if i rigged a switch and made it inject MMO (good idea or bad)?

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I think it actually works. When I lived in Iowa my 80 would invariably foul the plugs and refuse to start when it went below 0 degrees F. So my theory is that the sub zero worked great, except it trashed my plugs.
What a worthless piece of equipment.
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