stainless steel brake line pics
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stainless steel brake line pics
See:
http://images.cardomain.com/member_i...57_30_full.jpg
and related photos on pages 8-10. Definately a good move, cheaper, real firm brake and easy to put in.
Ray
http://images.cardomain.com/member_i...57_30_full.jpg
and related photos on pages 8-10. Definately a good move, cheaper, real firm brake and easy to put in.
Ray
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84SE-EGI helpy-helperton
Is it really, really cold there, or did you paint your calipers white???
I agree that the installation of SS lines really makes a difference in brake pedal feel. I had to drill out my chassis mounts a bit to allow the DOT-approved fitting to go through completely, but once done, they were 100% improvement over the 20 year old lines.
Combined with good pads, these make the car much more nimble under braking, though I seem to lock up the right front tire everytime I conduct a brake test from 40-50 mph.
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I think he's referring to pedal feel, going by his last post.
Stainless steel lines supposedly give you a "tighter" feel on the brake pedal, less sponginess, firmer, more linear application. That's what I've heard... Never tried before.
Stainless steel lines supposedly give you a "tighter" feel on the brake pedal, less sponginess, firmer, more linear application. That's what I've heard... Never tried before.
#10
It's called a "hard" brake pedal.
The semi-rigid PTFE tubing used in the SS brake lines doesn't "give" like the rubber hoses, so when you step on the pedal, the brakes are right there. This isn't always desirable, BTW. It's easier to inadvertantly lock up the brakes in a quick stop, for instance, especially on wet pavement.
The semi-rigid PTFE tubing used in the SS brake lines doesn't "give" like the rubber hoses, so when you step on the pedal, the brakes are right there. This isn't always desirable, BTW. It's easier to inadvertantly lock up the brakes in a quick stop, for instance, especially on wet pavement.
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Thanks for putting up the picture LongDuck, I'll have to learn to do that sometime. The calipers were painted with a bright aluminum paint, so they are shiny silver, not white, the photo just came out light.
I got the lines from Mazdatrix and they were a perfect fit on installation, just replaced the stock lines, fitting for fitting. Very straightforward, none of the twisting or bending issues that I had heard might be a problem.
About the peddle feel, yes it does make a very noticable difference, I think "hard" is a good way to describe it, very tight brake response compared to the "softer" feel of the stock rubber lines. And yes it is much easier to lock them up, so you need to avoid stomping on the peddle. But all in all a much nicer feel, tighter, more responsive. And with the new pads, you wouldn't even want better brakes.
I got the lines from Mazdatrix and they were a perfect fit on installation, just replaced the stock lines, fitting for fitting. Very straightforward, none of the twisting or bending issues that I had heard might be a problem.
About the peddle feel, yes it does make a very noticable difference, I think "hard" is a good way to describe it, very tight brake response compared to the "softer" feel of the stock rubber lines. And yes it is much easier to lock them up, so you need to avoid stomping on the peddle. But all in all a much nicer feel, tighter, more responsive. And with the new pads, you wouldn't even want better brakes.
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Airflow is my life
I love mine. Have them on both cars. I did have a fitment issue with the DOT lines. The hex that goes to the bracket was slightly larger than the hex on the bracket. I just filed it down till it fit. The non DOT lines dont have have it.
PS- I'm leaving the quad post and the responses. Too funny to delete.
PS- I'm leaving the quad post and the responses. Too funny to delete.
#14
I did have a fitment issue with the DOT
I got the DOT lines (from Mazdatrix) but didn't notice a problem with the fit, the hex nuts set into the slot so that the clip could catch the groove on the other side with no problem or alteration. So to save a little work you might want to purchase DOT lines from Mazdatrix or be sure to ask other vendors if their DOT lines can be installed without alteration.
I was curious about the difference between DOT lines and racing lines too, all the sources I checked had them for the same price, so it makes you wonder if it's anything significant.
Kehoe's problem may be that he's down there in New Orleans. Their internet works differently than everyone else's, I know, we used to live there.
Ray
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Airflow is my life
The race lines dont have the middle fittings for attachment to the struts, and they have removeable fittings (AN-3), so you can replace the hose only if it gets damaged.
Ray, thats where I got my DOT lines from. It seemed to me that the hex is an inch size, hence my fitment issue. Also FYI, the DOT lines have crimped ends (DOT requirement).
Ray, thats where I got my DOT lines from. It seemed to me that the hex is an inch size, hence my fitment issue. Also FYI, the DOT lines have crimped ends (DOT requirement).
#16
Thanks Carl for the explanation on the race lines. The hex nuts on my new ss lines from mazdatrix are all 17 mm, same as the stock ones, so this is why they fit so nicely. Mazdatrix must have caught on to the problem of the oversize nuts and found a new supplier - in any event it would be a good idea to ask before purchasing.
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