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South African 4 rotor...makes me proud ;)

Old Jan 31, 2008 | 05:09 PM
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Yeah, you can only just barely fit a 23A (12A based) 4 rotor in an FB. The 26B (13B based) would require some work to showehorn it in there.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by EpitrochoidalPower!
oh and incase you didnt see...its peripheral ported :O
Of course it is... no one has ever made a side port 4 rotor. A side port 4-rotor would be impressive.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 05:19 PM
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Not really. A peripheral port 4 rotor is impressive. A side port 4 rotor would be more difficult and the end result would be less power. Of course if you're into that sort of thing...
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 07:17 PM
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i dont care what port it is.... put that monster in any car and it'll be worth it.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff20B
Not really. A peripheral port 4 rotor is impressive. A side port 4 rotor would be more difficult and the end result would be less power. Of course if you're into that sort of thing...
Agreed. A side-port 4-rotor is really only good as a novelty. Much better to go with ITBs and peripheral ports. I admit I'd be interested in hearing what a side-port 4-rotor sounded like, though.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by B6T
Of course it is... no one has ever made a side port 4 rotor. A side port 4-rotor would be impressive.
What about that 4 rotor from Scoot that was made from 2 12As?
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 07:23 PM
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The Scoot 4-rotor is peripheral-ported.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 08:09 PM
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Ok, you know how a peripheral ported engine, whether 2 rotor or 3, always sounds kinda similar to its side ported counterpart? Like how it retains its essential exhaust note character? Of course the peripheral port version is always louder/sharper due to the flow requirements and all that. This tells me that a side port 4 rotor will sound similar to a peripheral port, only much quieter and so on.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 08:31 PM
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I'm surprised no one has noticed that one set of fuel injectors is installed directly into the rotor housings themselves.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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sick motor!!! thats all i have 2 say.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
I'm surprised no one has noticed that one set of fuel injectors is installed directly into the rotor housings themselves.
To be honest I didn't really look at it. I'm staying focused on the engine I'm going to be building with a friend.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 09:21 PM
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[QUOTE=EpitrochoidalPower!;7803814]

Now you got me all messed up looking at the fuel system.......

I see injectors in the intake pipes,and injectors at the top corners of the rotor housings(dont know how they cleared the dowels/tension bolts with those).There are 2 fuel rails and two sets of electrical connections as well....pretty standard stuff except for the physical placement.

But then,on the other side I see what looks like a mechanical injection system, in what appears to be a direct injection placement (think, DISC II engines from the 90's).Theres even what looks like a Gilmer belt driven mechanical fuel pump feeding them.Can this engine really require that much fuel?......and why run two completely different delivery systems,except perhaps maybe he's super **** about redundancey......
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 09:24 PM
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I think I got it figured out.......its a dry sump engine.

The "injectors" I saw on the other side are lined up with the irons.......its an oil delivery system pumping directly to the gallery, from the belt driven pump.

Thats a seriously setup engine hes got there.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 09:28 PM
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The dowel would easily be cleared with the injectors there. Don't look at the angle of the injector plugs and assume the injectors go in at that angle. They don't. If you look very closely you can see the very tops of the bosses and that they are above the dowel area.

I think the pump on the other side is a dry sump system. The braided lines go into the plates and not the rotor housings which would seem to mean they have to do with the oil system. I wouldn't think you'd have problems fueling an n/a engine with 2 injectors for each rotor considering the size you can get today.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 09:28 PM
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Looks like you came to the same conclusion while I was typing.
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