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Old 08-09-07, 10:33 PM
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do u have a sample of this connected to a car. like how exaclty is this connected. a pic of it in a car would be best . how much trouble is there removing old steerinb box to put this in ?
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It is a pain to pull the steering box, but once it's out you are like so happy!
Pulled mine 5 years ago to put in a VW Rabbit Rack and Pinion( Ghetto style)
Can't wait to put this in as a replacement......
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man...i couldnt stop thinking about it at work today. i have a question tho. from the stage 1 crossmember brace you can attach the R&P on it correct? the stage 2 is with upgraded "A arms" with even more adjust ability correct? is that the major difference?
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I think the stage 2 kit is needed to fit the R/P in place. It looks like the stock stay rods (strut rods) are not useable with the R/P. But, wait for Billy to give the official word.
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that is amazingim going to probly start with the stage one and then go from. wonderful peice of work Billy!
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Awesome job Billy. From what I see you'll end up with solid front motor mounts? Hard to tell for sure from the pics. Didint some hi power guys who went to solids end up cracking the front cover? I'd like to know how your dealing with this issue, not trying to criticize. Im thinking a solid engine torqe brace can take the twisting stress off the mount.
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Originally Posted by woodonastick
man...i couldnt stop thinking about it at work today. i have a question tho. from the stage 1 crossmember brace you can attach the R&P on it correct? the stage 2 is with upgraded "A arms" with even more adjust ability correct? is that the major difference?
Originally Posted by Rogue_Wulff
I think the stage 2 kit is needed to fit the R/P in place. It looks like the stock stay rods (strut rods) are not useable with the R/P. But, wait for Billy to give the official word.
The stage 1 kit has the mounting for the rack. You would need to upgrade to the stage 2 kit in order to use a front rack. The stay rods get in the way of the new steering arms. Stage 1 can be upgraded to stage 2 at a later date.

I have not calculated the stage two upgrade yet. Should only be slightly more than purchasing it all at one.


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Originally Posted by Rx7carl
Awesome job Billy. From what I see you'll end up with solid front motor mounts? Hard to tell for sure from the pics. Didint some hi power guys who went to solids end up cracking the front cover? I'd like to know how your dealing with this issue, not trying to criticize. Im thinking a solid engine torqe brace can take the twisting stress off the mount.

The kit includes polyurethane engine mount. Solid aluminum is an upgrade option.

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Originally Posted by boriqua51371
do u have a sample of this connected to a car. like how exaclty is this connected. a pic of it in a car would be best . how much trouble is there removing old steerinb box to put this in ?
I am chillin' with my son today (Last day before school starts back), I will get some pics on Monday.


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some more lawn mower rides?
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some more lawn mower rides?
Actually we picked up a remote control air plane today. We have been having fun waiting for the thing to charge for 30 minutes in between 5 minute crashing stints. I am about to break out the super charger and blast these batteries till they swell


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Originally Posted by bwaits
The kit includes polyurethane engine mount. Solid aluminum is an upgrade option.

-billy

Very cool.
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Oh dammit... you had to release this before I made my order... now I have to figure out how to afford *THIS* too! (I'm the guy asking about the Narrow Dynalites)

How are the pivot points of the new A-arm bit done; are rod-ends possible?
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Originally Posted by bwaits
The stage 1 kit has the mounting for the rack. You would need to upgrade to the stage 2 kit in order to use a front rack. The stay rods get in the way of the new steering arms. Stage 1 can be upgraded to stage 2 at a later date.

I have not calculated the stage two upgrade yet. Should only be slightly more than purchasing it all at one.


-billy
ok, so the stage 1 kit will allow a steering rack but it will be on the backside of the knuckle? and the stage 2 will be in front of the knuckle, meaning new knuckle? and if the stage 1 rack will need a rear steer, will it have to use a r&p or will the ones u offer still bolt up and steer at the rear knuckles?
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Stage 1 kit retains the stock steering.
The Stage 2 kit is required before a R&P can be fitted.
At least, that's my understanding. If I wrong, Billy will surely set the record straight.
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Yea, stage 1 has nothing to do with the steering. It locates the engine and lower control arms only. Less weight than stock, urethane engine mounting and multiple pickup points. Upgradeable at a later date to replace the steering system with rack and pinion.

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Hey billy, very nice. Has me thinking as to scca road racing application. I need to pull out the gcr but I'm thinking the crossmember might be ep legal. I know the steering conversion would not be. gt3 should be no problem with both. Very interesting.

Keep up the great work.
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Damn another good looking RE-SPEED product
How will I ever afford all these parts for my toy
Do you think he would trade a kit for one of my kidneys?
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Awesome.
Looks like I found a reason to start working on the RX-7 again!
Ive been waiting for a reason to pitch the CP rack and pinion steering.....but,with this high quality setup now on the market,Id feel guilty trying to re-sell my old CP kit to anyone!
Seriously,my paint/body is paid off.....Ill be getting a Stage2 very soon.
Do the rear struts clear with a turbo (S5 13BT)?
What ratio in manual steering would be best for a streetcar with big 17" meats up front?
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Originally Posted by bwaits
Yea, stage 1 has nothing to do with the steering. It locates the engine and lower control arms only. Less weight than stock, urethane engine mounting and multiple pickup points. Upgradeable at a later date to replace the steering system with rack and pinion.

-billy
Oh i see. thanks for clearing it up for me. so if i were to be able to only afford the stage 1, later there will be an upgrade for it for a r&p...right? man...so excited.
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Originally Posted by steve84GS TII
Do the rear struts clear with a turbo (S5 13BT)?
What ratio in manual steering would be best for a streetcar with big 17" meats up front?
I have no idea on your current ratio so I can not say which would be comparable. The
standard 20:1 is close to stock.
You should not see clearance problems if you clear the stock idles arm setup. I will get some hard numbers on that for you though.


Originally Posted by woodonastick
later there will be an upgrade for it for a r&p...right? man...so excited.
Yes, I have not listed it yet. I will calculate and add the upgrade to the catalog soon. Should only be a bit more than purchasing the stage II to begin with.

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Question 13B position?

Originally Posted by bwaits
Yes the engine mount fits ALL 12A and 13B engines with front mount front cover. BTW, you can re-use your 12A front cover on your new 13B. You do not need a GSL-SE specific part.

-billy
Does the engine mount have 2 locating positions? The Mazda 13B (SE) crossmember has the engine mount holes further forward than the 12A...

You may need to change the front cover for a different MOP [OMP] or if you want to use the turbo oil return boss on the SE front cover...


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Originally Posted by jes
Does the engine mount have 2 locating positions?
It is slotted to allow for the 20MM difference in the 12A and 13B.

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Billy,

I should just have my paycheck made out to you. But this time I need to finish my car first!
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Originally Posted by bwaits
Never heard of the 3rd gen 20B issues. I should look into working up a cradle for them.
That is what I am talking about!!

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