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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 03:31 PM
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Mantis...would you doo a one off full carbon hood if i supplied you with the cloth...when you get production ramped up of course
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 03:37 PM
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ok that was weird.....i posted the message above buyt under this honda haters name...dont know how that happend...strange
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 03:56 PM
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wtf that is odd. And I guess I missed something here, why won't he do a all carbon hood? Wasn't there talk of a carbon hood or was it a fiberglass support carbon top hood. ha I'm all confused, I know i want one though.
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 04:02 PM
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Full carbon would be pricey. Not only is the cloth expensive but the resin costs far more than FRP resin.

Like anything car related, you can have whatever you want - provided you're willing to pay for it
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 04:34 PM
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like manntis said that **** isnt cheap. if you got the money you can go all carbon its nice when its done. i dont have extra money laying around so i just did a fiberglass hood with cloth. cheaper resin and hardener than to do full carbon. i guess its all in what you prefer and how much money you have.
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 03:23 PM
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Thats why one shops around,,,alot thats why i posted
the price of carbon cloth i found near me...$ 28.00 dollors a yard. thats 36' X 50' the rolls are 50 'inches long,, and can be larger.. standard 'ol fibre glass resin
one can buy at a walmart has a yellowish tint to it at
around $ 9.00 dollors a quart. the resin(s) that dry clear
are around the same price, but walmarts don't carry a
marine type resin like that. the ideal way is to find a wholesale distrubitor and buy direct,,,, way cheaper.


the stuff that is just out of this world,,price wise is the carbon kevlar cloth... kevlar i believe is the weave of the cloth. not like a twill weave.

it would be safe to say for one hood two gallons of resin
around 10 lbs.
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by Manntis

Full carbon would be pricey. Not only is the cloth expensive but the resin costs far more than FRP resin.

Like anything car related, you can have whatever you want - provided you're willing to pay for it
Ya know, the full strength of the carbon material isn't realized unless it's baked in an autoclave...are y'all going to be doing that for these hoods?

And what would the cost be if one were to ask for a custom hood WITH THE FREAKIN' AIR DAM?..
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 05:03 PM
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mario, do you have a pic of this air dam your talking about? I've seen 427 'vet hoods before, but I'm not sure what your referring to
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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You can't really see it in the FD pic I posted in another thread, so I'll draw it out, but that means I have to find someone to host it since they aren't going to address the server solution here anytime soon...
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by mar3
Ya know, the full strength of the carbon material isn't realized unless it's baked in an autoclave...are y'all going to be doing that for these hoods?

And what would the cost be if one were to ask for a custom hood WITH THE FREAKIN' AIR DAM?..
Yes, Mar, I know they must be baked... I did a little research before starting this project
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 08:10 PM
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aaaannnnnndddddd, the answer to either or both questions?
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 08:51 PM
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Alright, I'm about to lose it here. Do you think I would start crafting carbon fibre hoods without determining how carbon fibre hoods are made? The baking is part of the process. Give me just a little credit will ya? What next, you're going to 'helpfully' remind someone doing an engine rebuild to put oil in their engine before starting it up?

As to custom hoods, it's like I said before: you can have anything you want as long as you pay for it. Making a custom style hood different from the rest of the production obviously means making a new mold. This drives up cost and if the demand for two types of hoods isn't there, someone loses money. That'd be me.

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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 09:18 PM
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Instead of thinking 427,, think L-88 it should be easy
to research now.. mario, mario. lol

so whats involved.. just more pvc for a second mould
cast another mould while your still casting. saves time,
time is money. now is the time. you can even cast it from the first casting buck/mould what have you.
have you started using resin/cloth yet ?

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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 09:52 PM
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Sorry to ruffle yer feathers, manntis, but you exhibit extreme politico-speak a whole bunch so I tend to want to get everything explicitly when "talking" to you...there are some doing the carbon fiber thingamabob and just stopping at the resin part like it was fiberglass and I was curious as to what autoclave y'all had lying around which would give you a leg up on the others...

I now officially give up on the air dam idea so as not to further enrage Manntis.......adios!
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 06:52 PM
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its not so difficult to build a structure in which to 'bake'
parts with the area of a rx7 hood..construct it of cheap weld-able material. all corners/edges get foil. and that pink attic insulation. a portable forced air heater. and do whatever you have to not burn down the camp. no fires please.
i just seen an NSX that is completly carbon fibre (on a website)
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 08:50 AM
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sounds kinda risky. i think most ppl would screw that up. should just do it right the first time.
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 11:58 AM
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The metal has been cut out for the vents and sculpting is underway. I took pics but am having trouble loading them through the IEEE 1394
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 12:58 PM
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what do you think your production runs will be,,, 2-3 a month ??? and whats the name of the composite shop you've sub-contracted ?? if i may ask.
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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We'll be doing an initial run of 10, then 4 at a time. The 'composite shop' is an automotive/marine FRP tradesman
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 03:08 PM
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estimated cost? how much you think your shipper would run?
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 05:08 PM
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any updates for those with baited breath
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 05:21 PM
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Anyone ever thought of making replacement fenderwells, or a replacement front valence out of fiberglass? I know Japco has the fenders, but i was just wondering. Hell, fiberflass light cover and a front valence would rock just to keep the chips/rust down.
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 05:23 PM
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Oh yeah, BTW, good work manntis... i think its really cool that you are going after this project with so much of a drive.
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 05:28 PM
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Originally posted by ChunkyMonkey
estimated cost? how much you think your shipper would run?
The plan is $499 for CF, $299 for fibreglass. I'll get back to you on the shipping as the crates aren't finalized yet.
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 05:55 PM
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well...my zip is 78238 if you ever get a chance to figure it out....I haven't decided on which one yet though....CF sounds greaf, but my car is all stock so it will look outta place...Any idea on the weight difference(CF versus Glass)
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