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Old 08-24-04, 02:04 AM
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I removed radio. connected a 6 pin cable to the 2nd outlet on back of the radio. disconnected the joystick and connected cable to these joystick cables. I only hear the rear speakers. Using different combinations, the front speakers are only working now. I need help. I can't stand this joystick. I had this question for you guys about a month ago. I finally tried the different ideas given to me in the past. Can someone help me do this step by step. thanks
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Depending on EXACTLY when you car was made, Mazda used two different wiring setups.

Between my wife and me, we own 3 85 RX-7, and my current one (NOV '85) has a slighty different wiring setup than the other two (OCT and and AUG '85).

The simple way to avoid having to much around too much is to find a base or GS RX-7 with no joystick in a junkyard. Cars without the joystick have jumper cable instead. Just grab the cable and plug it into your car

Old 08-24-04, 01:03 PM
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just do what the people did for my car and run all new for the speakers. Makes it a lot easier.
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I tried the jumper cables. These cables are located where the window switches/coin holder sit,correct. Underneith the that CENTER piece,right. All this does is disconnects the front speakers and allows the rear speakers to stay on. I DON'T WANT TO REWIRE THE CAR. I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT STOCK. PLEASE I NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Relax.
I can help.

The jumper wire in the wife's base model was right under where the joystick would sit. Basically it's just a wire thet replaces the joystick.

The back of your stock stereo should have 2 of the 6 pin plugs, right?
Was it using one or both?

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Old 08-24-04, 02:03 PM
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yea just run all new wires it saves so much time
Old 08-24-04, 02:12 PM
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Sorry to threadjack. That center console wire, what does it do? I seem to have one wire in there that does ABSOLUTELY nothing on my 83 GSL. I have the windows, defogger, and cruise control all connected (and hope they're connected RIGHT! Which one connects to the black tab?)
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The radio only has one 6 pin connection. If you look at the rear of the radio, the one on the left hand side is being used. The one on the far right is not being used and has a safty plug.
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Is anyone going to help me figure this small but anoying joystick problem?
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All I can tell you is that the right one is for a different kind of connection
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Originally Posted by caddy83
The radio only has one 6 pin connection. If you look at the rear of the radio, the one on the left hand side is being used. The one on the far right is not being used and has a safty plug.
Exactly,

Once you remove the joystick, you have to run a complete second set of factory wires
(without the joystick too) to the 2nd amp.

From the Radio's 2nd output to the 2nd amp.

In a stock GSL or SE, the jostick takes ONE input and breaks it into TWO.
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Which one is the 2nd amp? Is it the one on the driver or passanger side? I will try this method. Hopefully it will work.
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Thanks Directfreak. I figured it out NO MORE JOYSTICK To all rx7 fanatics, this rx7 forum is great. Thanks again
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Originally Posted by Directfreak
Exactly,

Once you remove the joystick, you have to run a complete second set of factory wires
(without the joystick too) to the 2nd amp.

From the Radio's 2nd output to the 2nd amp.

In a stock GSL or SE, the jostick takes ONE input and breaks it into TWO.
Not to argue with you, but that's not exactly true.

Mazda used a couple different wiring setups depending on when the car was made.

My current SE actually has a splitter box under the driver's side bin that takes the single signal from the joystick and splits it for the two amps.

My wife's base model used the two six-pin plugs ran one directly back to the front amp (or whatever that little box was) and the other converted to an 8-pin, and then went to where the joystick would be, through a short jumper cable and back to the amp

My previous SE used one 6-pin cable from the stereo, converted to 8 pin back to the joystick, but split the single 8 pin out fom the joystick into two 6 pins before running back to the amps.

AND all thee cars are stock '85's

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You are correct,

HOWEVER,

If you do it the way I posted, you will have true 4 channel setup, and you will
be able to fade from FRONT to REAR, and LEFT to RIGHT from the stock radio,
when eliminating the joystick.
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True, Directfreak...
I bow before your rotary stock stereo mastery

Originally Posted by Directfreak
You are correct,

HOWEVER,

If you do it the way I posted, you will have true 4 channel setup, and you will
be able to fade from FRONT to REAR, and LEFT to RIGHT from the stock radio,
when eliminating the joystick.
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Talking

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Better than being a dumb-***

What can I say... I'm a cheeky bugger...
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This reminds me of an argument me and a friend had over bondo in high school. . . . we were both correct, in our own right. Didn't stop the fists from flying

Directfreak, is your logo thingy spinning rather faster than normal?
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