DreamInRotary

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Hey guys,
I lost my only key (stupid me, I knew I should have made copies but never went and did it ) and need to figure out my next move for replacing it. I haven't even been able to start the stupid car yet and I'm coming closer towards that goal. Then I had to go and lose the only key for the car.

I'd like to replace the following parts with a different key:
Ignition cylinder
Driver and passenger door cylinders
Glove box cylinder
Driver and passenger storage bin cylinders
Rear hatch cylinder

My idea is to get a full set from a part out - will any 81-85 set work? Is the ignition cylinder removable as in the YouTube video I'm posting?

Any help is greatly appreciated, need to keep moving forward on this build.

Thanks fellas,
Austin

j9fd3s

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if you want a replacement, PM me the vin and i might be able to get you the key #*

um other than that, the 84-85 sets are all the same, and i think the 81-83 sets are close enough to work, but i'm not sure.

if you want to start it, there is a phillips screw holding the electrical part of the ignition switch to the lock, and if you remove the electrical bit, it'll work with a screw driver.

if you then remove the ignition lock, you can drive the car normally.

DreamInRotary

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I'll PM you the VIN here in just a minute, thanks for the offer to even look for the key number!

I'll watch out for 84-85 sets especially now - thanks for the tip. I need to replace the rear hatch cylinder no matter what because it's different than the doors and ignition. I haven't even checked the storage bins or glove box yet (and currently can't) but I'd like all the cylinders to be opened with the same key.

I had no idea that you could bypass the key so easily, kind of scary to be honest. I'll have to dive in there after I take finals (if I can't find a replacement key or the one I lost) and do that method to just start the car for a while. I still haven't even heard it fire because the timing is screwed up still. Ugh, one thing after the other with this car.

Thanks for the help, I appreciate it!

j9fd3s

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the Japanese don't really have theft, so they do not really understand it very well.

actually if you know what you're looking at, no car without a chip key is very secure

DreamInRotary

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Well I just ordered two Mazda key blanks for the car and I'm bringing the title in to get new keys cut using the code in the system. Keys won't be in till tomorrow but I'll post back with my findings!

lduley

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Now just hope none of the cylinders have ever been changed

DreamInRotary

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Well I already know the rear hatch cylinder was changed - not sure why they did that

So I'm considering running a power lock setup with a key FOB with three functions - 1. Unlock 2. Lock 3. Accessory (in this case, hatch release). It would be on the FOB with the function to just push a button and open the rear hatch, makes it simpler than going to the driver's side every time and hitting the button. I know Black Dragon sells the kit for locking and unlocking cylinders when converting to electric locks, but I'll need a separate function on the remote module in the car to allow for the accessory feature to trigger the rear hatch release... I'll have to do some research on this now, should be a relatively easy install I think.

KansasCityREPU

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A locksmith can redo the hatch lock to use the original key. it's not a big job.

lduley

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x2 usually really cheap too, just bring them the cylinder. I know where i work myself and 3 other people could do it

DreamInRotary

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You got half of it, KansasCityREPU got the other half! I'll do the quote here in just a minute from my other thread. I could go to Mazda but they'll probably charge me more than having it cut somewhere else - I'll be doing some calling around here in just a minute to find the most cost effective option.

You've got the other half completely correct - the key code! I'm curious as to where you got this code off of now, in the event of this happening again and I don't have such a helping hand from a forum member to get my key code. I am also considering a writeup on the subject just in case anyone else runs into the same issue, that's another thing I was hoping to accomplish with this build thread.

That was from j9fd3s on my other thread about losing my key - it's a huge help! Don't think I was going to freely offer up my key code for my car, that would be stupid.

So I've got three different locksmith places within 10 miles of where I'm sitting, each with an open tab on the computer right now, that I'm going to call and get a quote of what they'd charge me to electronically cut a key.

I'll maybe have a spare made so this doesn't happen again...

Very cool to know the build date of the car and that it was sold at Morrie's Mazda Dealership in Minnetonka, MN which isn't too far away from me right now. I believe that my original FB (K9 Tornado Gray with maroon interior, got TII swapped and sold a little over a year ago) was sold from the same dealership within a few months of this FB. Kind of a very cool coincidence between the two cars that I would have never known.

So end goal of the day is to get a key cut from a locksmith or Mazda if they're cheaper. Then I have a beater to work on and probably won't get around to trying to start the car today - just will make sure the key actually works.

Called Morrie's Mazda in Minnetonka and got quoted about $14 for a key blank so I ordered two of them, should be in tomorrow. Then I'll bring the title for the car in with my driver's license and get both key blanks cut according to the key code in the system. I'm a little nervous about it and I'm considering going out and pulling the code off the ignition to make sure it's the same...but I don't know if there is a code stamped on there or not. Decisions decisions...

I'm also going to have a key made for the rear hatch cylinder so I can open it without having to go to the driver's door and hit the switch every single time. I'm going to add power locks to this car with a key FOB and I'm thinking of just getting one with a three way setup, lock + unlock + hatch release. Would make life much simpler than running two keys for the car.

And I'm going to have the rear hatch cylinder re-keyed to be used with the same key as all the other locks. I'll post back tomorrow night with my findings on whether the code the key is cut with works or not!

project7s

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What did you ever find on this?I ask because, while I have a Mazda key for my car with the black Mazda stamped end on it, it does not have the 4 digit code on one side.
When you get a new key from Mazda it's it possible to get a new key with that code stamped on it? Thanks

DreamInRotary

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I believe, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, that only the factory keys came with the 4 digit key code stamped on them. I bought two of the Mazda key blanks that are the same as the factory ones and had one of them cut to code. Needless to say, it didn't work in the car. So I was lucky enough to find the original key to the car and that's the only working key I currently have right now. I doubt there's a way for them to stamp that code onto a spare key that you have but I may be wrong.

I still need to bring the rear hatch cylinder to the locksmith and get it re-done to work with the factory key (since that works in the doors and ignition, I still have to check for the glove box and storage bins). So when I bring that cylinder in I'll be having them look at the newly-code-cut key and see why that isn't working, re-do the rear cylinder to work with the same key, and probably cut my only other Mazda key blank to work with one key.

project7s

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Yeah,I didn't think I could get a key with that code stamped in it, but I really wish I could, maybe that's just my ocd.