I know this isn't a first gen section article but no one really goes to the other rotary section anyways.

http://motoring.nzoom.com/motoring_d...88-389,00.html

 

And nobody in the 1st-gen section really gives a crap about crappy new cars.

Off to the Lounge, or Other Rotary, or Kills or something...

edit: Good God I clicked the thing. That rendering is the definition of UGLY! It looks like a cross between two of the ugliest cars on the road, a new Cadillac and a Lexus SC430 - you know, the thing that looks like an Audi TT except the proportions are all off and the body is waaay tooooo huuuuge for the greenhouse kind of stuck on the top as an afterthought.


UUUUU-GLY!!!!

And I bet it won't be "lightweight" anymore. Hell even new Miatas aren't lightweight anymore.

 

Oh for petes sake!

That's the same freaking article that someone digs up every couple months or so and passes off as new information.

Read my lips:

THERE IS NO NEW RX-7. MAZDA CANNOT KEEP UP WITH ROTARY PRODUCTION AS IT IS RIGHT NOW WITH THE RX-8! NO SHOW CAR HAS BEEN REVEALED! A RX-7 IS NOT IN THE WORKS AT MAZDA AT ALL!

Jesus. We should have a ******* sticky at the top of every forum.

 

It's not April Fools yet!


...I'll be at Mazda R&D later on today to snoop around
likely they'll say nothing.

 

" Boy racers and rotory fans will be able to snap one up by 2006"

R-O-T-A-R-Y

the plural is

R-O-T-A-R-I-E-S

Get it right people, because you look like morons when it isnt.

 

Heck, I sometimes misspull it myself, but then again, I can even misspull my own name..........
As for the new 7, I'll believe it when I see it on the dealers lot, until then, it's just speculation and rumor.
I would love to see another Rotary powered car offered, and high production numbers. This would help to eliminate the false rumors about the unreliability of Rotary powered cars that many pistonheads spread.

 

Notice the article said "RX7 REPLACEMENT. This means that if Mazda ever does produce another rotary-powered 2-seat sports car it will likely be called something else, like RX9 for example. They NEVER re-use RX number sequences after having discontinued one of those numbers. (However, they've called three completely different rotary cars "Cosmos": the '67 to '69 110S Cosmo sports car, the "76 to '79 RX5 Cosmo coupe and the 20B-powered Eunos Cosmo luxury coupe).

And yes, the above article is old enough to vote. Yet people still keep dredging it up.

 

Along similar lines I'd like to see someone else swing thier nuts around and make rotary engined car to compete with Mazda. RX Tuner had a good two part summary in the last two issues. It just skimmed the history of the engine, but at one point a lot of big players were playing with thier Wankels. Audi, Mercedes Benz, Citroen, GM, and Suzuki were all using it but the programs were all dropped, most before the FCs were even designed.

Sure we'd still have a bit of a niche market, like VW, Porsche, and Subaru with thier opposed cylinder engines, but there would be some new blood. Hopefully with Mazda being involved with ALMS next year we'll see some boingers start losing and having to convert to keep up.

 

If there ever is a true rotary sports coupe produced again, I hope they do revert to using RX-7. 7 is so much cooler than 9.

It wouldn't make sense for Mazda to produce a true rotary sports coupe, when they already have a blase rotary for the mid-life crisis set. In my opinion, the RX-8's ho-hum sales will eventually kill off Mazda's interest in the rotary niche market completely.

 

It was good? I'll make sure to pass that on to the guy who wrote it.

I've seen that picture of the "new" Mazda RX-7 in magazines or online to many times to count now.

 

I think the reason the 8's sales are so "ho hum" is the car itself. It doesn't appeal to the "turbo charged" jetsetter crowd of today. Too many people are snatching up all these turbo cars etc, whats the fun in owning an "outdated" car, even though its a rotary? (don't take this as my opinion, I own two FB's)

Hell, even all the pickups are starting to come standard with bigger and bigger turbos.

 

rx8 sales are ho hum? i see rx8's everywhere... at least 3 a day i'd say... no matter where i drive

 

yea well how many new mustangs do you see.

 

not nearly as many... lucky if i see 1 a day

 

I have seen more Mustang GT's in the past month than I have seen RX-8's in the past year. Though a better comparison is the 350Z and G35 coupes which sell like hotcakes compared to the RX-8. That has to be a huge thorn in the side of Mazda. That's all the MORE reason for them to come out with a new rotary sports car.

 

maybe its just the area? i dunno, maybe theres a lot of rotary enthusiasts near seattle? lol

 

Actually the best yardstick is to compare how many RX8s are on a dealer's lot at any given time. Here in Calgary (a city with a population approaching 1 million including surrounding communities) I'm lucky if I see more than one RX8 on a lot at any given time. Conclusion: In spite of the fact that RX8s aren't as sleek looking as a 3rd gen RX7 Mazda is selling RX8s as fast as they can make them, which obviously isn't fast enough.

Contrast that with the 12 or 13 Mustang's on Ford dealer lots last year, when Ford was selling them at rock-bottom prices to make room for the 2005 models. Nobody was biting because everyone was waiting for the 2005 models to arrive.

The new Mustangs will sell very fast though, especially with a base price (in Canada) of only 25K for the V6 base model. 36K for a GT is in the same price range as the RX8 and Alberta has lots of rednecks, so look for Mustangs to outsell any of the Japanese or European sports cars, including the RX8.

The RX8s are typically bought by engineering types and rotary enthusiasts, a demographic of fewer numbers and with a somewhat higher over all mechanical IQ than that of the typical Mustang buyer.

 

Somebody noticed something I posted! And here I was beginning to think that my posts were invisible to everyone but me

But yeah, I definitely can't say much for the general IQ of the people in my area. At least the kids anyway. There is one RX-8 owned by a teacher at my school, but there are several new GT's in the student parking lot. All driven by teenage girls with rich parents of course

 

Dealerships in my area still have original 04 8z on the lots from when they first came out and they do not have any 05's yet. Sales are not good in my area and I see very very few on the road. Let me ask. Has any of you driven a RX-8?

 

Well I tried to once, but the salesman said that my first gen was more car than the 8 could ever be and walked me back to the parts counter for some sparkplugs.

 

Okay, sure!

 

Yep... see my sig!

 

This was in the lounge months ago. Most people spotted it as fake right away. It would be nice though. I bet alot of '8 owners would trade in for one.

 

On the topic of how rotary sales have been going, i think that we should maybe play a role in mazda's line of production. I think that we should all work togethere on making a car and telling them to build that. I can see the headlines already, "A car made by the people made for the peopl" lol. I think that would be a pretty wicked idea. We might not know everything there is about car specs and so on ... but i'm pretty sure we could work things out between us and their engineers. Well thats my thought ... and ya that new was old news about new rx coming down is old fake news.

 

Its a nice idea, but the thing is Mazda isn't selling cars to most of us. They want to sell cars to people like my parents (mom is looking for a "sporty" car and talks fondly of the 65 Mustang she used to have), the rich high school kids previously mentioned, young buisness professionals, and other people with money. The Rx7Club is a community of enthusiasts obsessed with cars no less than 5 years old. People with a fondness for the old will not spend on an new car no matter how much it is designed to appease them.

I look at new car prices even for a $8500 Kia and think "gee I can get a tweaked out GSL for half that and have enough left over to get an SA shell and a 12a rebuild candidate OR OH OH I could probably get a REPU for that if I could find one". The factory supports the clubs and the aftermarket as a PR campaign, thier hope is that we rant and rave about Mazda and convince someone to buy one or we break stuff and come to thier parts counter and mechanics to fix it.