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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 08:06 PM
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has anyone thought about how well rx-8's are selling in japan? im sure that matters to them at least a little bit. and, obviously the rx-8 isnt the most popular car on the road, but do we really want it to be? part of the beauty of the rotary is its uniqueness. anyway, the fact is the rx-8 is here in america after what, 7 or 8 years without the fd? its a step in the right direction. be patient.
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Bern
If you guys only knew on the future of RXs...

I love internet specualtion and all of its insiders and knowledge base.

Ford and Mazda do share knowledge on R&D.... Ford has a presence at the Mazda R&D Center in California, and both companies share knowlegde bases for product development... they have seemed to have been able to play to each others strengths and make both companies better...

Stay tuned, Rotary Power is still looking good at Mazda!!

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I agree, anyone who thinks mazda isn't looking to introduce another rotary vehicle into the market isn't playing with a full deck of cards
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 08:47 PM
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zoom zoom is making them ching ching. There'll be more rotaries a'comin.
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 10:00 PM
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Mazda has one plant that makes rotary engines. It's already running at full capacity. They will need to expand capacity (an investment) or reduce RX-8 output in order to produce another rotary-based product.
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 10:00 PM
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I strongly suggest there will never be a RX-7 replacement.

The Miatra started as a cheap sports car along with the Ford Capri. Since then it has gradually gone up market towards where the RX-7 was. The new model looks outstanding and at last will have room for tall people. Sales will be at a very profitable level.

The RX-8 is selling moderately well in its established market niche. The last RX-7s were too complex for most mechanics to understand. The 8 is simple in comparison.

The only market niche not covered yet by Mazda is the luxury sports car market which will pitch it up against Audi, BMW, and Porsche. As such it will not be a RX-7 replacement inspite of being on the RX-8 platform and having a rotary.

One of the advantages of the Gen 1 was you could work on your own car, modern vehicles are far too complex and you need equipment costing just as much as the car. Gone are the days of dropping an engine out, rebuilding it and going for a burn-up at night. This is another reason the spirit of the 7 can never be replaced by a high tech machine rotor or not.

I fully support previous threads, Mazda was rapidly going bust until the corporate level management/financial skills of Ford came to the rescue. The rotary would have died with the demise of Mazda.

What chances Ford building a Capri replacement and adding a rotary to come in the market above the Miatra?

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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by pjr
Mazda has one plant that makes rotary engines. It's already running at full capacity. They will need to expand capacity (an investment) or reduce RX-8 output in order to produce another rotary-based product.
RX-8 output will naturally reduce and Mazda will expand production as necessary! So no real issue there.

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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 03:53 PM
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folks in this section are here because $$$$ somehow prohibits us from going any further ......with that being said stop teasing us with this stuff..
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 04:40 PM
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folks in this section are here because $$$$ somehow prohibits us from going any further ......with that being said stop teasing us with this stuff..
LOL. That's probably true with many on here who can't afford to spend more than 3 or 4K on purchasing a car. But the 1st gens have just enough character and classic styling that even guys who can afford a new car prefer to just buy a 1st gen and then spend the money that would have gone into new car payments on beer, women or an airplane.
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 09:17 PM
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>RX-8 output will naturally reduce and Mazda will expand production as necessary! So no real issue there.

a new 7 might take some sales of the 8 away, but i bet if mazda sees enough demand to sell almost as many 8s as now plus a lot of 7s they will find a way to increase production.

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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 09:53 PM
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The Rotary has been in the Mazda Family for over 40 years so i dont expect mazda to stop making the rotary any time soon!

and that picture of the new rx7 looks just like the Chrysler Crossfire
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Goopy
folks in this section are here because $$$$ somehow prohibits us from going any further ......with that being said stop teasing us with this stuff..
Actually...

My '85 GSL-SE is my dream car. If I only ever only ever own one car, this is it!
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bern
RX-8 output will naturally reduce and Mazda will expand production as necessary! So no real issue there.

-Bern
Come on Bern, you know better than anyone that Mazda has a sales target for the RX-8 that must be maintained, and that they will need a large capital outlay to increase the production of rotary engines. This is all from the mouths of management.

Fitz is quite right, there is no room in the Mazda lineup for a new RX-7, not with the Miata moving upscale and the RX-8 occupying 350z price territory.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MosesX605
Come on Bern, you know better than anyone that Mazda has a sales target for the RX-8 that must be maintained, and that they will need a large capital outlay to increase the production of rotary engines. This is all from the mouths of management.

Fitz is quite right, there is no room in the Mazda lineup for a new RX-7, not with the Miata moving upscale and the RX-8 occupying 350z price territory.
I know better and a lot more than that!!! The RX-8 will decrease in sales naturally over the next few years, as the 350Z has, and Mazda will need to find future platforms for Rotary motor production...

You notice I did NOT say anything about a new RX-7! And yes Mazda has a sales target for the RX-8, but they also know that the future of the Rotary can not rest soley on the RX-8 platform. There needs to be diversity to keep the future bright for Rotary power.... and engineering and design are working hard to make this happen!

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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Bern
I know better and a lot more than that!!! The RX-8 will decrease in sales naturally over the next few years, as the 350Z has, and Mazda will need to find future platforms for Rotary motor production...

You notice I did NOT say anything about a new RX-7! And yes Mazda has a sales target for the RX-8, but they also know that the future of the Rotary can not rest soley on the RX-8 platform. There needs to be diversity to keep the future bright for Rotary power.... and engineering and design are working hard to make this happen!

-Bern
Sounds like we agree then. I too would like to see a compact rotary powered car to compete with the RSX types.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bern
I.... and Mazda will need to find future platforms for Rotary motor production... You notice I did NOT say anything about a new RX-7! And yes Mazda has a sales target for the RX-8, but they also know that the future of the Rotary can not rest soley on the RX-8 platform. There needs to be diversity to keep the future bright for Rotary power.... and engineering and design are working hard to make this happen!
Hint.... it's an existing platform and has no roof....
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by pjr
Hint.... it's an existing platform and has no roof....
NOPE!!

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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MosesX605
Sounds like we agree then. I too would like to see a compact rotary powered car to compete with the RSX types.
I think we're all in agreement there...
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by smnc
Actually...

My '85 GSL-SE is my dream car. If I only ever only ever own one car, this is it!
Damn right, and I intend to acquire one in the next year or so. The money saved by not buying new will go a long way toward paying for my airplane. Of course, then I'll have to bribe my wife with an RX8...

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