I might sell my rims, For GSL-SE
07-01-03, 03:35 PM
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I might sell my rims, For GSL-SE
If i'm going to keep the suspension setup i have, i'm going to have to sell my rims.
they are 4x114.3, w/ 35 mm offset. I need something that is 40 mm offset.
So, i may be selling my rims in the near future, if i can afford to buy new ones. If not, i'll just baby foot it around town until i can.
What reccomendations for rims do you have? I'm going 17".
they are 4x114.3, w/ 35 mm offset. I need something that is 40 mm offset.
So, i may be selling my rims in the near future, if i can afford to buy new ones. If not, i'll just baby foot it around town until i can.
What reccomendations for rims do you have? I'm going 17".
07-01-03, 03:38 PM
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they ARE 35 mm.
i would GET 40mm
the 35 mm rubs against the wider eibach springs in the front. Just sitting on the ground it almost touches, and then the next coil up its like a 3mm overlap onto the tire....
What types of rims would go w/ my car do you think?
i would GET 40mm
the 35 mm rubs against the wider eibach springs in the front. Just sitting on the ground it almost touches, and then the next coil up its like a 3mm overlap onto the tire....
What types of rims would go w/ my car do you think?
07-01-03, 03:41 PM
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Yeah, I understand that... you know that 35mm offset actually sticks out FURTHER than a 40mm right? the higher the offset the close to the spring you're gonna get.
What style wheel are you looking for? Let's start with that... Mesh? 5 spoke? split 6 like you've got? Y-spoke?anything? color?
What style wheel are you looking for? Let's start with that... Mesh? 5 spoke? split 6 like you've got? Y-spoke?anything? color?
07-01-03, 08:18 PM
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+40 offset will put the back of the rim closer to the spring than the +35. Are you sure you don't have +40 now? most of the 7" wide "honda rims" are +40. The offset is usually cast some where on the back of the rim.
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07-02-03, 12:13 AM
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In the diagram above, 40mm offset would take the rim FARTHER from the spring, as it is measured by distance from centerline to the street side of the hub. The greater that figure, the farther the 'car side' of the rim is from the suspension behind it.
07-02-03, 12:18 AM
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I think white powder coats would look excellent on your car geoff, it would really accent the exterior color theme you have. Motegi mr-3 or mr-4 style would look great in my opinion.
07-02-03, 12:20 AM
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Originally posted by Manntis
In the diagram above, 40mm offset would take the rim FARTHER from the spring, as it is measured by distance from centerline to the street side of the hub. The greater that figure, the farther the 'car side' of the rim is from the suspension behind it.
In the diagram above, 40mm offset would take the rim FARTHER from the spring, as it is measured by distance from centerline to the street side of the hub. The greater that figure, the farther the 'car side' of the rim is from the suspension behind it.
If you compare a 35mm offset wheel with a 40mm offset wheel that "pad" would be 5mm further to the right on the 40mm wheel. this means that the inside edge (left side)would actually be 5mm closer to the spring....
07-02-03, 12:29 AM
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YOu're thinking backwards. Offset in the diagram above is frim the centre to the pad that rests against the rotor, yes.
35mm offset holds the rim at a fixed point in space. A 40mm offset pushes the pad, and thus the entire rim, 5mm farther to the street side, thus moving it 5mm away from the suspension.
For this reason I was able to run wider-than-stock 40mm offset rims on my GSL-SE for over a year without rubbing. Had 40mm rims been 5mm closer, thus putting even an otherwise stock width rim 3mm closer to the suspension, the added rim width would have constantly rubbed and damaged the rim or the tire.
35mm offset holds the rim at a fixed point in space. A 40mm offset pushes the pad, and thus the entire rim, 5mm farther to the street side, thus moving it 5mm away from the suspension.
For this reason I was able to run wider-than-stock 40mm offset rims on my GSL-SE for over a year without rubbing. Had 40mm rims been 5mm closer, thus putting even an otherwise stock width rim 3mm closer to the suspension, the added rim width would have constantly rubbed and damaged the rim or the tire.
07-02-03, 08:58 AM
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no, that's not it Manntis...
Offset is the distance is from the center to the pad; we agree on this.
A 40mm offset wheel has a 5mm further streetside pad than a 35mm wheel; this we also agree on.
but by moving the "pad" 5mm futher out, that means that MORE of the width of the wheel is on the left side of the pad correct? And 5mm less of the width is on the right side.
More of the wheel on the inside means the inside edge will actually be closer to the suspension.
Argh, I wish I could draw on the internet..
I thought you ran 38mm offset wheels anyway?
Offset is the distance is from the center to the pad; we agree on this.
A 40mm offset wheel has a 5mm further streetside pad than a 35mm wheel; this we also agree on.
but by moving the "pad" 5mm futher out, that means that MORE of the width of the wheel is on the left side of the pad correct? And 5mm less of the width is on the right side.
More of the wheel on the inside means the inside edge will actually be closer to the suspension.
Argh, I wish I could draw on the internet..
I thought you ran 38mm offset wheels anyway?
07-02-03, 11:24 AM
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Have you ever seen any cars with zero offset racing wheels...... they almost always stick out beyond the fender. Backspace is the important measurement though when it comes to whether or not the rim is too close to the spring. Backspace = Width/2 + Offset. More backspace means the rim is tucked further underneath the cars fender. Increasing the offset by 5mm also increases backspace by 5mm, so the whole rim is 5mm closer to the spring.
Iotus are you sure you don't have 40mm offset, not 35?
I know its not the cheapest, but going to a coil-over and 2.5" springs would give you a bit more room to play with.
Iotus are you sure you don't have 40mm offset, not 35?
I know its not the cheapest, but going to a coil-over and 2.5" springs would give you a bit more room to play with.
07-02-03, 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by rx7gslse
by moving the "pad" 5mm futher out, that means that MORE of the width of the wheel is on the left side of the pad correct? And 5mm less of the width is on the right side.
by moving the "pad" 5mm futher out, that means that MORE of the width of the wheel is on the left side of the pad correct? And 5mm less of the width is on the right side.
Stock is 38mm and my Enkeis were 40mm, and ran fine with no rubbing.
07-02-03, 02:12 PM
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Ha ha... yeah, just ignore us....
Moral of the story... 40mm will work. 38mm will give you 2mm extra spring clearance. Anything other than those is going to give you issues up front with a 7" wide wheel on an -SE
42mm or more and you'll hit the spring
35mm or less and you'll be rubbing the fenders
Coil-overs do give you a tad more room, but not really as much as you'd think unless you're running 13" wheels. My spring perch sits right where the widest point of a 17" wheel woudl sit. anything smaller than that will be under the spring perch and gain you clearance.
Backspace is a much nicer number to use... but most wheels aren't sold with that number specified..
Moral of the story... 40mm will work. 38mm will give you 2mm extra spring clearance. Anything other than those is going to give you issues up front with a 7" wide wheel on an -SE
42mm or more and you'll hit the spring
35mm or less and you'll be rubbing the fenders
Coil-overs do give you a tad more room, but not really as much as you'd think unless you're running 13" wheels. My spring perch sits right where the widest point of a 17" wheel woudl sit. anything smaller than that will be under the spring perch and gain you clearance.
Backspace is a much nicer number to use... but most wheels aren't sold with that number specified..
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07-02-03, 05:48 PM
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so WHY are my rims THIS close to rubbing!!!
On the back the only things it says are:
7x16 in one place
and in another place 35 (followed by some symbol i think, dont remember).
The way it sits right now, the spring is not rubbing. However, the tire is tucked beneath the next rung of the spring. It seems to me that if i were to hit a big bump, it would rub big time.....
Whast up with this? i'm pretty confused.
On the back the only things it says are:
7x16 in one place
and in another place 35 (followed by some symbol i think, dont remember).
The way it sits right now, the spring is not rubbing. However, the tire is tucked beneath the next rung of the spring. It seems to me that if i were to hit a big bump, it would rub big time.....
Whast up with this? i'm pretty confused.
im not EVEN going to finish reading this thread....