dbragg

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i want to remove ths power steering off of my DD 85 GSL. the reason being that the pump is about gone and its leaking fluid like crazy and making my engine bay all gross. i dont care about either reduction and all that. ill probably redo the system one day, but as of now its too expensive.

can i just take the belt off and not have to worry about it leaking? i read about looping some line but i never saw any pictures or read any good descriptions.

any input is greatly appreciated. thanks.

nick812

I think tsi exteme looped his. Never really got a good look at it but I am sure he can help you.

dbragg

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i pmed TSI extreme a few days ago. he never responded.

Frostycrowd

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I looped mine like this. I removed the p/s cooler lines and linked it right at the solenoid. dont mind the dirt

nick812

Hmmm I havent seen him post in a couple of days. I might try and call him tomorrow I have a few questions for him. If i do I tell him about this post.

dbragg

iTrader: (7)

did you use an existing line or buy a new one? if you bought one, what size it is? did you fill it with fluid before doing this? is it leaking?

nick--thanks

Frostycrowd

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I took the line that went from the pump and cut the hard peice of. then after removing all the cooler lines and stuff linked the only remaining 2 openings with a fuel line. It is a pita to remove all the cooler lines, I got my dremel and just started hacking away at the p/s cooler lines so I could rip them out.

I will post pictures this weekend with it all clean. naturally when I took the p/s off I got oil everywhere and never cleaned it up. You will need to clean that area after you do the work.

Frostycrowd

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Oh it does not leak, and no I did not fill it with fluid, there was plenty in there.

Rx-7Doctor

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Before you start removing. Are you sure it's not just the pressure hose. 90% of the time its the hose and not the pump. The hose is not much money thru VB/BD.

Frostycrowd

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Screw P.S. I can turn my wheel while its sitting still with one hand. Not a problem at all.

dbragg

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doc-- the pump makes all kinds of gridning noises so im pretty sure its dying. i know the hoses are leaking like crazy. ill probably just remove it now and rebuild the system after i get settled in with college.

Rx-7Doctor

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It the shaft is not wobbling the pump is making grinding noises because it is low on fluid.
The are pretty tough pumps. On my last Se the pump had been leaking and the belt had been removed. The po left it that way and never bypassed the hose or anything.

One day after I had the car awhile I put some fluid in it and started it up. The pump still worked perfectly.

Siraniko

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Loop the inlet and outlet fittings with a rubber hose on top of the steering box. Much cleaner.

dbragg

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ill take a closer look at it this weekend. ill also look into the prices of the hoses from BD. i may try looping a hose just to see how i like it.

Frostycrowd

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the 23 year old car tells me no. Bolts wont come loose

Siraniko

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here ya go

Frostycrowd

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ok lets just show Frostycrowd up some more. I may do that, I just cant get those bolt loose

Siraniko

iTrader: (13)

Soak it with 3-in-1 or WD or etc etc

ray green

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I think I'm missing something here, why do we need to do this looping stuff? Can't you just remove the belt and drive it like that? I hope so because this is what I've been doing for the last year and 25,000 miles, but please let me know if I'm messing something up!

Frostycrowd

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Your method is fine. but whats the point in removing it, if you dont get the simplicity and weight benefit.

ray green

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That would probably be a good idea but like AWS I was just having a problem with noise, not leaking, and was putting off fixing it until I get some time. But you get used to driving without the PS and rebuilding the pump has become a low priority. Also, when I looked at it with the idea of taking it out, it looked like there was quite a bit involved, so I didn't bother. Maybe I'll have another look this weekend.

Thanks for the feedback, someone else told me it was a bad idea to run without the belt but I couldn't get him to explain why.

dbragg

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i removed my belt today. i went on a 100+ mile trip to sign up for college and all. it does make turning while at slow speeds more difficult, but makes driving "spirited" seem better to me. i like it and i plan to keep the belt off for now.

ray green

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Yeh I got used to the no belt action real quick. So I guess we may as well take out the PS stuff, right? Anybody know how to do that?

Ray

dbragg

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ray-- look at wacys pics. i think all you have to do is make sure theres fluid in it and then route the lines back into itself. then just start removing the system. i doubt il remove mine. i dont see a reason to at this moment. im not worried about shedding the small amount of weight and its not in my weigh at the moment.