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Old Oct 6, 2011 | 09:06 PM
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Help troubleshooting throttle

hi guys,
so 3 or so months ago i bought an 85 gsl-se with a rebuilt motor, ported via pineapple racing templates, upgraded suspension, brakes, lightweight flywheel, etc. really haven't had the chance to drive it much since i still have to finish installing the widebody kit but i did take it out a few weeks back.

while driving, i noticed that in between shifts, lifting on the throttle and engaging the clutch at the same time would make the revs go up about 2-300 rpms higher from where i lifted. seems like the throttle cable was still pulled and slow to returning to idle position. i briefly looked at the throttle cable and there is about a 1/16 to 1/8" give to it. anything else i can adjust? revs aren't coming down as quickly as i would hope. tia.

btw, rats nest removed as well as air pump (i believe) and A/C...there are just 2 pulleys, crank and alternator.

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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 01:45 PM
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bumping this up as my searching has yet to find a post with similar problems. thought it may be the TPS and bought myself 2 little light bulbs but looking at my engine compartment, i can not find the green connector FMS is talking about (rat's nest has been removed by previous owner)
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 01:53 PM
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2-300 rpms doesn't sound that uncommon to me, not that i've driven a lot of rotaries, but when you think of how much power you've applied to the engine without a load it won't necessarily stop revving when you let off.
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 01:59 PM
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unless you lift off and then clutch in, its bound to happen like that simply because when you shift normally, you dont take your foot completely off the throttle, my miata does it, my 1st gen does it and its simply the driving style. You lift but not completely to maintain rpms or at least that how i drive. thats not an issue you should worry about. if you still think is an issue with the car post a video of the tach while it happens and we can asses the issue better.
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 03:51 PM
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Depending on your carb configuration (you didn't specify), it may be equipped with a device called a "dashpot," the whole purpose of which is to slow throttle closure below about 3000 RPMS. Which in turn prevents the afterburns (backfires) rotaries are prone to when the intake closes too fast.

If it's misadjusted, it can affect higher RPM ranges.

If you don't have one, then that's not it.
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 04:58 PM
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He said it was an SE. How's your idle? Maybe a TPS issue.
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 07:25 PM
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It's definitely not my driving style. Even tried lifting gas pedal prior pressing the clutch in and it does the same. My buddy's 13b does not do the same.

No carb as it is an SE. I have researched on the TPS and have even bought 2 light bulbs to test but the problem is I can not find the green connector to connect to. Is it because the previous owner removed the rats nest?
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 03:33 PM
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someone confirm this for me please: https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...=rats+nest+tps
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 04:34 PM
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It's definitely not my driving style. Even tried lifting gas pedal prior pressing the clutch in and it does the same. My buddy's 13b does not do the same.

No carb as it is an SE. I have researched on the TPS and have even bought 2 light bulbs to test but the problem is I can not find the green connector to connect to. Is it because the previous owner removed the rats nest?
Try in a low gear like 1st or 2nd at 5-6K rpm and just let the throttle completely slide off your foot (think snap off, instead of lifting your foot off it) and see if it still does it. Take video if you can.
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by craaaazzy
someone confirm this for me please: https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...=rats+nest+tps
No relevance to your problem - the car he was talking about was a carbureted 12a car, in which the TPS doesn't do a whole lot. On your fuel injected 13B, it's pretty essential.
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Old Nov 19, 2011 | 06:23 PM
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Try in a low gear like 1st or 2nd at 5-6K rpm and just let the throttle completely slide off your foot (think snap off, instead of lifting your foot off it) and see if it still does it. Take video if you can.
i would but the engine has less than 5 miles after rebuild...breaking it in.

as for the TPS, please help me identify where i should connect my lights to. here are some pics of my set up:



the green connector in the middle of this pic is female. i thought i would have to find a male green connector, no?
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 09:45 AM
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drove the car today and here is what i noticed...

idle is good and stable, at about 1200 rpm's.

when driving, the amount the rpm's jump up is dependent on the load on the engine. the higher the load, the more it will rev past where i let off. if i take my foot off the gas pedal for about a second and then push the clutch in, it does not rev up.

still looking for help please
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 10:16 AM
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Dont take my word for it, but when i had an 88 vert the connection for the tps check is just like that green one.
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by kutukutu1
Dont take my word for it, but when i had an 88 vert the connection for the tps check is just like that green one.
was it a female connector as well? reason i ask is that in the FMS, it looks like it's male.
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by craaaazzy
drove the car today and here is what i noticed...

idle is good and stable, at about 1200 rpm's.


still looking for help please

idle should not be that high. mine is at 750
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alright, it turns out it was that green female connector. TPS is now adjusted. thanks guys.
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by craaaazzy
was it a female connector as well? reason i ask is that in the FMS, it looks like it's male.
yes it was a male connector, i just read in another thread about the tps actually coming in both male or female plugs. ill post the thread if i find it again.
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