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Old Jun 21, 2015 | 11:12 PM
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Guy is selling my parts car.

Hi guys it has been awhile been busy with alot of stuff some of you remember the 79 rx7 i bought for $3k with the black 80 parts car. The guy told me he would keep it at his place till he could get the title from the seller and if i need parts just come by and get them well i just found the ad on craigslist he is trying to sell the rx7 i paid for as part of the 79 deal for $500. Do you think i should say something or should'd i let it go i kinda wanted it in case i wanted any parts from it but now that he is trying to sell it i don't know what i should do. He is kind of selling stolen property since i own the car but i haven't talked to him in awhile so he may think i may not want it. Here is the ad and the old thread where i posted about the deal thanks for the help guys.

-80 MAZDA RX7 -BLACK

https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generati...again-1067477/
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Old Jun 21, 2015 | 11:40 PM
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If you never had the title transferred, you don't own the car in a fully legal sense.
If you didn't at least get a signed and witnessed receipt for your money when you paid him, you don't own the car at all.
Even if you paid by check and had the cancelled check, there's nothing proving you didn't just give him a gift.
If you do have a receipt, but no title, you could probably sue in small claims court.
If you do have the title, you can report him to the police.

Oh, and PS: if you tried to buy a car from the guy but he did not have proof that he owned it, and it turns out that HE stole it and never held title... guess who maybe goes to jail for attempted receipt of stolen property?
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Old Jun 21, 2015 | 11:48 PM
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All i have is a verbal agreement on the 80 i have all the paperwork with the 79. He doesn't have a title for the 80 so it is just a parts car. He seamed like a nice guy wouldn't think he would screw me over for a couple hundred dollars do you think i should contact him in a nice matter asking about it?
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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 05:21 AM
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Yes by all means, call him up and see what's going on. From your description of the situation, a reasonable person would assume you've abandoned the car, so unless you assumed legal ownership he has every right to sell it. And if you are the legal owner at some point he would be justified in charging you a storage fee, so it's really your responsibility to follow through on the original deal or forget it.
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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 01:50 PM
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The ad got deleted looks like he sold it
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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 01:53 PM
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All i have is a verbal agreement on the 80 i have all the paperwork with the 79. He doesn't have a title for the 80 so it is just a parts car. He seamed like a nice guy wouldn't think he would screw me over for a couple hundred dollars do you think i should contact him in a nice matter asking about it?
you should call him. you had a verbal agreement, but how long was he supposed to keep it at his place before you picked it up? if its been more than 90 days, and you hadn't been in touch with him, i think he's actually well within his rights to get rid of it.
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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 02:04 PM
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He was suppose to call me when he did or didn't get the title but he never called.
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Go pick up the car.
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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 02:24 PM
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The ad got deleted looks like he sold it it was there last night
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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 02:40 PM
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He was suppose to call me when he did or didn't get the title but he never called.
you should still call him, you're giving up too easy.
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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 02:44 PM
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dam i just went back and i bought the rx7 July 16th 2014 so 11 months ago. What can i do if somebody already bought steal it from them?
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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 03:40 PM
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You should have already went and got it, I would have sold it after 90 days of not hearing from you.

Your sol now.
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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 03:43 PM
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dam i just went back and i bought the rx7 July 16th 2014 so 11 months ago. What can i do if somebody already bought steal it from them?
You dropped the ball, doesn't sound like you have much to support your claim of
ownership unless you have some sort of printed or written contract or even agreement.
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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 03:45 PM
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He was suppose to contact me he said he would hold it for me as long as i needed it there since i didn't have the space at the time if he would of called and told me to get it i would have.
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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 04:36 PM
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You left it there and never made arrangements to get the car so it is considered abandoned and he can sell it regardless.
60 days is max time then you are out of luck.
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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 04:41 PM
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He was suppose to call me when he got the title or he couldn't get the title he didn't even try to call me once to come pick it up
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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by thecody59
He was suppose to call me when he got the title or he couldn't get the title he didn't even try to call me once to come pick it up
So,In the meantime you get FREE storage?...

IF the deal was made and you have it in writing then Fine..you may be able to do something about it.
Other than that,the car is NOT registered to YOU and you are not paying storage for the car to stay on his property.
You made the deal and it was up to YOU,not him to remove it from the property once the deal was made.Then again you were going to use it for parts so really you should have gotten it ASAP..(to avoid a title transfer and take the car apart).
It was NOT,so he can still claim the car as abandoned or since he bought it from the Previous owner he may have a Bill of sale for it from them.
Since there may not be a Bill of sale stating the VIN then you may be out of luck.

Personally..and don't take this the wrong way..BUT,If someone got bought my "stuff" I would not Keep it after I sell it..I want it GONE..that is why I sold it.
So if you couldn't accept the item then maybe you should not have purchased the car and had nowhere to put it.
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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DivinDriver
If you never had the title transferred, you don't own the car in a fully legal sense.
If you didn't at least get a signed and witnessed receipt for your money when you paid him, you don't own the car at all.
Even if you paid by check and had the cancelled check, there's nothing proving you didn't just give him a gift.
If you do have a receipt, but no title, you could probably sue in small claims court.
If you do have the title, you can report him to the police.

Oh, and PS: if you tried to buy a car from the guy but he did not have proof that he owned it, and it turns out that HE stole it and never held title... guess who maybe goes to jail for attempted receipt of stolen property?
This is exactly what I was thinking.

Verbal agreements are worth nothing, in any state (as far as I know). Time to move on and find a different parts car. In the mean time, taking your entire purchase home with you is a good idea - as well as filing some sort of paperwork for it.
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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 08:19 PM
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It is not a huge deal since i really didn't need it that bad but it is good to have it just in case and it was part of the deal.
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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 08:59 AM
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It sounds like you are looking for sympathy Cody, but I don't think most of us would come to that conclusion.

If you follow the advice you've been given in this thread and do a better job taking care of your own responsibilities not so many things will go wrong.
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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 09:48 AM
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I did exactly like the guy told e he said he would try to get the title and he would lmk when he did. He said he would hold it as long as I needed if he would of called and said pick it up I would have.
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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 11:39 AM
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I did exactly like the guy told e he said he would try to get the title and he would lmk when he did. He said he would hold it as long as I needed if he would of called and said pick it up I would have.
Trust is something that needs to be earned. Don't trust anyone when it come to business transactions unless you have a previous relationship with them or can have someone verify/guarantee that trust.
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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 12:15 PM
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I did exactly like the guy told e he said he would try to get the title and he would lmk when he did. He said he would hold it as long as I needed if he would of called and said pick it up I would have.
i'm sure he meant well, but everyone had more important things to do, and then its been a year.

there is a saying "never pay a contractor before the work is finished" and its a saying because its hard enough to get those guys to finish even when you pay them after, that paying them before is a 100% guarantee that the work isn't going to get done.

the other thing to never do is tell a body shop "i'm not in a hurry" because while you think they can take their time, they think they can just keep the car forever.

not trying to be mean, i've done the same thing. learn a lesson and move on
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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 12:52 PM
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If you want the car go and pick it up. its "yours" anyway. Its up to you if you want to just let it go not us. Did you sign any paperwork stating that it is yours? if not then it would be hard to contest it. it would be better if you just called him to see what's going on then to ask us. if he did sell it then it was your fault for not following through with everything

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Old Jun 24, 2015 | 02:58 PM
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Well i tried contacting him nothing at least he could do is lmk he my car i paid for i wish i had a bill of sale i would bring him to court.
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