Could anyone tell me what model RX this is?
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The owner doesn't seem too sure if it a S,GS,or GSL model. the reason why is because i want LSD for a turbo II swap. Can anyone tell by those pictures? is there anything i could ask the owner to look for that might identify the model?
Sorry if this post seems very unknowledgeable. I'm new to the RX-7 world and so is the owner i think lol. It's a 5 speed with a moon roof and 12a motor |
I would say it is a 83 GSL model, So it does have the LSD.. I have a turbo II swap in a first gen.. Let me know if you need anything....
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Rear disc brakes would be a GSL or GSL-SE (depending on year). The GSL-SE was only available in 84 & 85.
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from the second picture it looks like it might have the leather interior.. does that mean its a GSL?
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here is one pic for you...
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You could ask him for the vin number. :)
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does it have the leters in the VIN?? or do i have to do a vin search on it?
He wants 2500$ for it so it seems like a pretty good deal. I don't know what the british flag sticker on the side is about?? lol |
If you could have him take a picture through the rear wheel (to see disks or drums) that would give you your answer. Otherwise its hard to say for sure since these cars are so old, anything could have been switched... Nice wheels, I like the color too. :)
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Alrighty, let's start the process of elimination.
Doesn't have the bumper style of a 79-80 Doesn't have the bolt pattern of a GSL-SE It currently has '83 "Limited Edition" wheels on it, not sure if those were on there stock or added later. Other than that there's nothing in the pics that could identify which trim level it is. All you know for sure is that it's an 81-85 S, GS or GSL Most likely it's a GSL or an '83 Limited Edition. If it's an '83LE, jump on it, that's a steal. If it's a GSL, still jump on it, the rims alone are worth min $400-500 in okay condition. To narrow it down the most obvious thing is the rear brakes. S and GS had drum brakes, GSL had disc brakes. Anyone who says the sunroof or the leather trim is a giveaway for trim level is wrong. My friend Joel has one with leather that's got drum brakes (GS) and I've seen a bunch of sevens with smoked glass, some from the factory and some acquired after (like my GS). Jon |
Jon, those aren't 83 LE rims. The car cannot be an 83 LE, as those were all silver outside, red (cloth?) interior.
It does appear to have had a badge of some sort on the rear roof pillar, which *could* indicate that it's a GSL. It also appears to be 81-83, by looking closely at the dash if front of the steering wheel. |
It isn't an S since it has the electric mirrors. It isn't an '81-82 as it has the brake cooling slots in the front air dam (can't recall if those showed up in '83 or '84). Looking at the seats I would hazard a guess it is a GSL. Way to tell for sure over a GS is if it has 4 wheel discs and a wiper on the rear glass.
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awsome information guys! thanks, i'll update when he reply's
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i see its got an 84-85 front end but its an 81-83 car. a factory GSL will have a rear wiper, which i dont see.
best way to tell would be just to look at it. car looks nice anyways, is that black? or a dark green? |
I was just reviewing the emails and he said it was repainted to britsh racing green, so it could still possibly be a LE ?? i hope at least it's a GSL
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did the LE's come with rear disk? I seen an 83 this week with LE wheels and rear disk but no badges.
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Originally Posted by rotary_power4me
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The owner doesn't seem too sure if it a S,GS,or GSL model. the reason why is because i want LSD for a turbo II swap. Can anyone tell by those pictures? is there anything i could ask the owner to look for that might identify the model?
Sorry if this post seems very unknowledgeable. I'm new to the RX-7 world and so is the owner i think lol. It's a 5 speed with a moon roof and 12a motor rob |
Originally Posted by nick812
(Post 7423260)
did the LE's come with rear disk? I seen an 83 this week with LE wheels and rear disk but no badges.
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hmm had to read that one twice lol interesting thought. so i guess the other question would be what if it does have rear disks but no wiper blade?. then the only way to know about the lsd would be to jack the rear wheels up and see if they turn in the same direction?
How extensive is it anyways to drop in a LSD rear end? also i heard of welding it? or using this http://www.phantomgrip.com/product_l...hp?make=Mazda# But the note says :SE does that mean it converts it to a SE rear end or does it mean it will only fit in a GSL-SE ?? |
Originally Posted by quimax2k
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as far as i know (and i am sure that someone on here that is more familiar than i am will correct me if i am wrong) le's were produced (atleast in the states) from 84 and 85, yes they had rear disc and limited slip rear. if the 83 had le wheels on it then from what i know (doing a se conversion from a gs) the bolt pattern is not the same as other models so they more than likely just dropped the le rear end and front brakes on it but if they went that far then they more than likely also dropped a 13b or larger in it as well.
Limited edition cars were in 1983 ONLY,and never had rear disk brakes. The LE package was basically an upgraded GS with the moonroof,velour seating surfaces,14" mesh style wheels(not those in the picture,the LE was not a flat mesh like in the pics),chateau silver paint,upgraded stereo,and maybe a few other things I am forgetting. The LE was an open differential with drums,crank windows,no rear wiper,and no brake ducts(84-85 got the ducts looking vents). The LE shared the same bolt pattern with every other 12A powered car,but had the 14" size instead of the standard 13".I have no idea what model that car is,but I am pretty confident it ISN't an 83 LE. |
if the rear end has disk brakes then the chances are very high that its an lsd from a gsl
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it deffenately has the cowl vent of an 81-83 (car in the top of pic)and the lower valance of an 84-85(car on bottom)
i have not seen any factory pics of 83's that i can recall with the slits in them . how long ago had it been repainted ? the paint looks a bit 'foggy'... looks like either a poorly taken care of re-paint ,bad paint job, or alot of orange peel?? also , since the missmatched parts on the front egsist , has the car been wrecked? http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...528_155238.jpg |
So basically if it's got rear disks it's LSD and if it's drums it's a open diff? And i hope it wasn't in a accident lol
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the 83 limited edition came with:
5- speed syncromesh manual xmsn air conditioning removable sunroof chateau silver w/red pinstripe aluminum wheels cruise control rear anti-roll bar electric remote filler door release electric rear hatch release tinted glass with rear defogger remote control mirrors ignition key reminder 195/60/14 tires day night mirror body side moulding dual padded visors with vanity passenger mirror halogen headlamps illuminated igniton key cylinder quartz digital clock light off reminder chime intermittant wipers reclining front seats side windo demister tachometer and voltmeter storage box w/armrest in center console digital am/fm/cassett w/7 band equalizer power antenna lumbar suppot drivers seat all of which came to a grand total of 12,889 dollars and 00 cents:coolkid01 |
the 83 limited edition came with:
5- speed syncromesh manual xmsn air conditioning removable sunroof chateau silver w/red pinstripe aluminum wheels cruise control rear anti-roll bar electric remote filler door release electric rear hatch release tinted glass with rear defogger remote control mirrors ignition key reminder 195/60/14 tires day night mirror body side moulding dual padded visors with vanity passenger mirror halogen headlamps illuminated igniton key cylinder quartz digital clock light off reminder chime intermittant wipers reclining front seats side windo demister tachometer and voltmeter storage box w/armrest in center console digital am/fm/cassett w/7 band equalizer power antenna lumbar suppot drivers seat all of which came to a grand total of 12,889 dollars and 00 cents:coolkid01 |
does it have power windows, or manual..does it have a rear wiper..only the GSL and the GSL-SE have power windows and a rear wiper...stock.
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