1st Generation Specific (1979-1985) 1979-1985 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections

Carputer Fully Running off battery and screen fitted in. (Video included)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-28-07, 11:06 AM
  #1  
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
dj55b's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: London, Ontario
Posts: 6,122
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
7" Touchscreen LCD Came in :D

Well ladies and gents ... the moment has arrived where I'm like a kid in a candy store lol. When you get 3 packages to come in in the same day you can't be happier . Anyhow I'm just going to post pictures of this because the rest won't reallly matter to you guys.

Fitment seems like I just need to take away just a bit from all the side, about 1/16 to 1/8" so really good fitment and the screen is really slim too as you can tell by the back side.

BTW ... the screen was still in its wrap ... thats why it looks a bit blurry.

Attached Thumbnails Carputer Fully Running off battery and screen fitted in. (Video included)-picture-130.jpg   Carputer Fully Running off battery and screen fitted in. (Video included)-picture-132.jpg  

Last edited by Directfreak; 05-28-07 at 11:34 AM. Reason: Added pictures directly to thread - DF
Old 05-28-07, 11:32 AM
  #2  
I can has a Hemi? Yes...

iTrader: (2)
 
Directfreak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: 3OH5
Posts: 9,371
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Wow. That looks like it was made for it!. Wha are you going to run? A Headunit, or a Carputer located somewere else?
Old 05-28-07, 11:46 AM
  #3  
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
dj55b's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: London, Ontario
Posts: 6,122
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Carputer

Specs are as follow:

Lilliput 7" Touchscreen LCD 629gl
2Ghz Via Processor
Jetway Motherboard J7F2WE2G-Oc-Pb
1GB Kingston DDR2 Ram
160 GB seagate HD
200W powersupply

Still trying to scource a slot loading DVD burner for cheap. But can't seem to find that.

The screen looks 100X better than i actually expected ... it was bout 250$ with shipping from ebay.
Old 05-28-07, 12:00 PM
  #4  
I can has a Hemi? Yes...

iTrader: (2)
 
Directfreak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: 3OH5
Posts: 9,371
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Make sure you update this thread when you finish.
I have been interested in something like this for a long time.
Old 05-28-07, 12:02 PM
  #5  
Stu-Tron Get Yo Groove On

iTrader: (4)
 
Jeezus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Huntsville AL
Posts: 8,405
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts
Holy &^$%&$ that looks good. What exactly is the Carputer? Is it something that shows Digital gauges or something
Old 05-28-07, 12:17 PM
  #6  
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
dj55b's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: London, Ontario
Posts: 6,122
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
It really just a regular computer ... but since its in a car ... they call is carputer ... lol thats all there is to a carputer

I will be running windows Xp with some sort of Front end (front end means a program like stock cars have, a more user friendly interface.) This is one example which is what i might get. Its called road runner and its free.

http://guino.home.insightbb.com/RRMain.jpg
http://guino.home.insightbb.com/RRAudio.jpg
http://guino.home.insightbb.com/RRBrowse.jpg
http://guino.home.insightbb.com/RRMixer.jpg

Some screen shots of the interface.

Also I will have my megaquirt in there, I plan on viewing 6/8 guages on there. 8 might be too small on this screen though but 6 is more than plenty enough anyways.
Old 05-28-07, 12:23 PM
  #7  
Old Fart Young at Heart

iTrader: (6)
 
trochoid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: St Joe MO
Posts: 15,145
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Great fit Sam. I sure would like to see this up and running when I deliver the shell. This is something that's been in the back of my mind, but you already know how computers and I don't get along, lol.
Old 05-28-07, 12:44 PM
  #8  
add to cart

 
Manntis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Saskatoon, SK & Montreal, PQ
Posts: 4,180
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
they make 2.5 DIN carputers with flip-out screens too - 'bout $1000 a pop though.
Old 05-28-07, 12:44 PM
  #9  
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
dj55b's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: London, Ontario
Posts: 6,122
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Also from reading around ... I will need to upgrade sound cards for a better sound quality (looking mostly at the X-Fi Sound Blaster Cards), also will need a 6 channel Amp to boost up the wattage from about 5-6 watts on the computer outputs, to something that will deliver atleast 200-300 watts to the speakers. So if anyone has anything in mind for that let me know.

Trochoid. She should be up and running once I have everything hooked up. so maybe by the end of the week or so. I still need to get a few things like switches and still unsure how it will be mounted in there yet. I might fork out to get a real case, but if I do it will need to be a full metal case (Alot of them for this kind of board are just plastic). The metal one from reading can be grounded and acts as a shield to prevent Electro magnetic interferance from going to nearby wires and sensors.

Looks like with the amp and soundcard that I still need to get. I might be diping into 1100$-1300$ depending on the amp that I get I guess.
Old 05-28-07, 12:45 PM
  #10  
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
dj55b's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: London, Ontario
Posts: 6,122
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
"they make 2.5 DIN carputers with flip-out screens too - 'bout $1000 a pop though."

ya and even the ones at that price still need a few more things. also the boards are usually only with the via 1-1.3 GHz range ... i wanted something a little more
Old 05-28-07, 12:48 PM
  #11  
add to cart

 
Manntis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Saskatoon, SK & Montreal, PQ
Posts: 4,180
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
thta's actually an amazing fit. I'm considering making an electric RX, and that would be a good way to display the BMS data and voltage remaining.
Old 05-28-07, 12:53 PM
  #12  
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
dj55b's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: London, Ontario
Posts: 6,122
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
ya fit was really good ... I'm debating wether to mold it in there or just leave it. I can either do like 4/6 screw from the side to mount it. or I could just fiberglass and bondo it to the trim but will have to repaint the whole thing.
Old 05-28-07, 12:53 PM
  #13  
Airflow is my life

 
Rx7carl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Orlando, Fl
Posts: 6,736
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by dj55b
Carputer

Specs are as follow:

Lilliput 7" Touchscreen LCD 629gl
2Ghz Via Processor
Jetway Motherboard J7F2WE2G-Oc-Pb
1GB Kingston DDR2 Ram
160 GB seagate HD
200W powersupply

Still trying to scource a slot loading DVD burner for cheap. But can't seem to find that.

The screen looks 100X better than i actually expected ... it was bout 250$ with shipping from ebay.

Damn. Thats more power than my desktop has (I built it in 2000).

Man that would be badass for me. I could hook in my LM-1 and Aux box and have full time gauges on there. Are these desktop parts that you use in this setup?
Old 05-28-07, 12:53 PM
  #14  
Rotary Enthusiast

iTrader: (1)
 
darkfrost's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Waterloo & Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 838
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I've made my own skin for RR for my setup, I'll toss up a pic when I get home.

For the audio, it depends on what you want to run, # of speakers, subs etc.

A better sound card will help for sure, but what I've done with mine for now is use the onboard card, and split the signal to 2 amps (both 2 channel amps). One amp has the low pass filter enabled and powers 2 subs, the other powers the rear speakers with no filter. I've left the front ones disconnected since you don't really hear them anyway.

After looking at your screen, I'm wishing I had gone with the 7"- it took way too much effort to mount mine. Yours looks like a perfect fit.
Old 05-28-07, 01:03 PM
  #15  
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
dj55b's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: London, Ontario
Posts: 6,122
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Rx7Carl -

Ya you can use regular computer parts. There are a few things to watch out for though. Like the via Processor and mobile intel or AMD processor use less power, also the whole board is 17cm x 17cm so really compact. This board is actually the most feature packed one that I could find. Will all my accessories, calculating wattage I would be close to about 120W, hence me getting the 200W one. I'll post up pictures of everything once I get more time.

Also something to watch out for temperatures. In a car environment you can see -30 to lets say 50 degrees celcius. This is when those specs come in really handy. Most of the problems though are in the lower temperatures. Things like HD needs to warm up, the touchscreen crystals need more time to load up, and things like that. In the hotter days, you have to watch out that you're not over heating the processor and screen. Nothing from what I've read really breaks down, but will just not work until warmed up basically.

Also you can't create an inviroment that easily to accomodate both sides of the world, like you can't just warp your whole board and equipment , other wise it won't allow it to breather properly when it runs and hence over heating.
Old 05-28-07, 01:07 PM
  #16  
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
dj55b's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: London, Ontario
Posts: 6,122
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by darkfrost
I've made my own skin for RR for my setup, I'll toss up a pic when I get home.

For the audio, it depends on what you want to run, # of speakers, subs etc.

A better sound card will help for sure, but what I've done with mine for now is use the onboard card, and split the signal to 2 amps (both 2 channel amps). One amp has the low pass filter enabled and powers 2 subs, the other powers the rear speakers with no filter. I've left the front ones disconnected since you don't really hear them anyway.

After looking at your screen, I'm wishing I had gone with the 7"- it took way too much effort to mount mine. Yours looks like a perfect fit.
Ya i've run those options too ... but if you know me, I'm a loose weight freak, hence most of my mod including this one. So running one would be the best and would use less power too (I hate wasting power too, hence me doing as much LED lighting as possible on my car this will be next to be tackeled hopefully) If worst comes to worst, I would get one 4 channel for now to get just the speakers and no options for the sub .. then get a 2 channel one for subs later. This will be alot cheaper too.

I'm not sure about doing subs too ... but if I ever decide too .. I would like just spend the money once and know that I have the capability to do so later if wished upon. I'm not that crazy about subs though.

All the audio components I would like them to be CDT audio ... but will see how much I can afford of that. i would like to get their upstage system.

Last edited by dj55b; 05-28-07 at 01:27 PM.
Old 05-28-07, 01:23 PM
  #17  
pwned

 
dean23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Northern Indiana
Posts: 1,296
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
that looks amazing. ive been plannin this for my TII to run my microtech through. ill have a little more to rearranged though....

+1 in my book
Old 05-28-07, 04:15 PM
  #18  
add to cart

 
Manntis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Saskatoon, SK & Montreal, PQ
Posts: 4,180
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by dj55b
Rx7Carl -

Ya you can use regular computer parts. There are a few things to watch out for though. Like the via Processor and mobile intel or AMD processor use less power, also the whole board is 17cm x 17cm so really compact. This board is actually the most feature packed one that I could find. Will all my accessories, calculating wattage I would be close to about 120W, hence me getting the 200W one. I'll post up pictures of everything once I get more time.

Also something to watch out for temperatures. In a car environment you can see -30 to lets say 50 degrees celcius. This is when those specs come in really handy. Most of the problems though are in the lower temperatures. Things like HD needs to warm up, the touchscreen crystals need more time to load up, and things like that. In the hotter days, you have to watch out that you're not over heating the processor and screen. Nothing from what I've read really breaks down, but will just not work until warmed up basically.

Also you can't create an inviroment that easily to accomodate both sides of the world, like you can't just warp your whole board and equipment , other wise it won't allow it to breather properly when it runs and hence over heating.
Just to add to this good info, when you install a carputer you also want to install a 1 farad capacitor to smooth out the power fed to the system. That way when you go from "on" to "ignition start", or other such main interruptions in power, you're not cutting power to the computer and making it hard-boot.
Old 05-28-07, 04:32 PM
  #19  
I can has a Hemi? Yes...

iTrader: (2)
 
Directfreak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: 3OH5
Posts: 9,371
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Just to contribute a good link for this thread"

http://www.mp3car.com/
Old 05-28-07, 04:53 PM
  #20  
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
dj55b's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: London, Ontario
Posts: 6,122
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
That one farad capacitor is a good idea.
Also the forum on mp3car.com is one of best for doing this kind of stuff. That is where I learned most of this stuff from.

I should also add that for that clean look, the ashtray will be holding various input/output ports along with a power button for the computer. Still pending the idea of how it will be done due to low interior space.

Last edited by dj55b; 05-28-07 at 04:59 PM.
Old 05-28-07, 05:03 PM
  #21  
add to cart

 
Manntis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Saskatoon, SK & Montreal, PQ
Posts: 4,180
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
are you actually mounting the computer behind the monitor? You could also mount it in the gap above the storage bins, under the upper sheetmetal, and put the I/O ports in the armrest.
Old 05-28-07, 05:21 PM
  #22  
Full Member

iTrader: (1)
 
Insane rx-7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Barrie, Ontario
Posts: 91
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Sam you crazy bugger! If I ever get my car off of these damn jack stands, I have to come up there and see your car sometime. And of course show you mine :O That plastic piece your screen is in costs 360 bucks from Mazda.... I know cause I replaced mine with a new one ha. Don't know why but it looks good!
Old 05-28-07, 06:33 PM
  #23  
love the braaaap

 
85rotarypower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Bognor, Ontario
Posts: 3,771
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
http://cgi.ebay.ca/PYLE-PLAD618-2000...QQcmdZViewItem

If you want a good amp for a good price, check that out. I have that exact amp in my Alero running the 4 interior speakers and the sub and its amazing. The sound quality is great, lots of options for tuning, built in low pass and high pass filters, and a few other things too. Its a great amp for the price, even if you don't use even half the power.
Old 05-28-07, 07:13 PM
  #24  
Rotary Enthusiast

iTrader: (1)
 
darkfrost's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Waterloo & Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 838
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Here you go, the skin for the headunit im using:


Old 05-28-07, 07:33 PM
  #25  
What?

 
John64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: CT
Posts: 3,833
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
You paid $360 for a stereo surround? You can get one off ebay or on here for around $60. Oh, if you want to buy a bridge give me a call!


Quick Reply: Carputer Fully Running off battery and screen fitted in. (Video included)



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:58 AM.