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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 12:14 PM
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Hey, don't interrupt our hijacking of this thread
Old Jan 27, 2005 | 12:27 PM
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soo................ how about the IDA? why not include that in the situation here?

cdrad, maybe we can race now. my new 13b BP motor's coming in in about 1-2 months w/ a wacky modded 51 IDA. mine's will start on a cold day also, blah blah blah.

but to make it fair... i'll give u a jump start + 2 cars ahead....... maybe 3
Old Jan 27, 2005 | 12:38 PM
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Hmm we can race now, or you can wait, once you have your 13B BP, for my SP 13BT coming in a few months. 300 ponies to the flywheel, built by Erwin.
Old Jan 27, 2005 | 02:14 PM
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IDA = BIG $$$

Holley and stock carbs are low $$$ . . .

The power differences are very similar between Holley's and IDA's. I hear Holley's have a broader power band with out the peak hp of the IDA. In a real life run the Holley is faster! IDA's just look cool . . . HA, Ha, ha ! ! !
Old Jan 27, 2005 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by cdrad51
Hmm we can race now, or you can wait, once you have your 13B BP, for my SP 13BT coming in a few months. 300 ponies to the flywheel, built by Erwin.

Another motor just arrived. Its a TII full bridgeport . Got to find a RX-3 or a SA to put it in. Will be using 51 IDA



Old Jan 27, 2005 | 02:33 PM
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You can put that in my car
Old Jan 27, 2005 | 03:26 PM
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You can put bigger jets into a carburetor. You can put smaller jets into a carburetor. But that doesnt change the fact that its still 600CFM.
Old Jan 27, 2005 | 07:58 PM
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So have any of you anti 600 people ever run one?

Alak: I dont understand what you are trying to say? 600 yea and . . .

I havent found one person say, "I had _ _ _ _ carb and ran under 9.5 in an 1/8th with stock ports."

Im not saying that is fast or the fastest that setup would go.
Old Jan 28, 2005 | 01:27 AM
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So have any of you anti 600 people ever run one?

Alak: I dont understand what you are trying to say? 600 yea and . . .

I havent found one person say, "I had _ _ _ _ carb and ran under 9.5 in an 1/8th with stock ports."

Im not saying that is fast or the fastest that setup would go.
cuz an IDA or DCO or DCOE is easier to work with and tune and has about the same or greater power than a holley 600 cfm.
Old Jan 28, 2005 | 01:31 AM
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IDA weber will be faster !

what do you want? power?
or a holley? ... LOL
Old Jan 28, 2005 | 07:55 AM
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Talk #'s, what would an IDA do in an 1/8th with a stock port 12a?

Easy to tune, just because their is half the carb? I thought they were more precise in tuning? replaceable air jets and what not?

Their is not much to Holley's.
Old Jan 28, 2005 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 813KR$
Talk #'s, what would an IDA do in an 1/8th with a stock port 12a?

Easy to tune, just because their is half the carb? I thought they were more precise in tuning? replaceable air jets and what not?

Their is not much to Holley's.

why dont you tell us the #'s on a stock port 12-A with Holley.
Old Jan 28, 2005 | 11:07 AM
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Am I the only one reading this thread?

9.5 seconds in the 1/8th mile . . .

Is that clear enough? It is only the third time I have said that in this thread.

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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 813KR$
Am I the only one reading this thread?

9.5 seconds in the 1/8th mile . . .

Is that clear enough? It is only the third time I have said that in this thread.

(cough, cough) "LOSER" (cough, cough)

LOSER? are you calling me out??
Old Jan 28, 2005 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 813KR$
So have any of you anti 600 people ever run one?

Alak: I dont understand what you are trying to say? 600 yea and . . .

I havent found one person say, "I had _ _ _ _ carb and ran under 9.5 in an 1/8th with stock ports."

Im not saying that is fast or the fastest that setup would go.
You can get a 600 CFM Holley carburetor and mess around with it all you want. Increase or Decrease the Jet Size. But in the end, the intake volume is still 600CFM.

In my experience, IDA's are awesome. They cost too much in comparison to a holley. They are very hard to tune in comparison to a holley. And they hate cold weather.

But comon, be realistic. I was going to put a IDA on my 13B. It was $1200 for an IDA48 around here. Not counting the manifold. The Holley was $285. So you have to ask yourself, would you pay $1000 to get a few more horsepower?
Old Jan 29, 2005 | 08:20 AM
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Iam calling you a post *****! Posting withOUT reading the entire thread ! ! !
Old Jan 29, 2005 | 08:31 AM
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Iam calling you a post *****! Posting withOUT reading the entire thread ! ! !
thats because ur a dumb ***. stop posting based on hear-say. how many brands of carbs have you actually played with. As I said, if you dont have the experience, dont post. IMHO, Holley is a junk.

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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 11:55 AM
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well, I was kinda rude for saying that holley is a junk...I just didnt feel its aggressive enough for my taste. But as I said, I tried most of the carbs out there and IDA is the way to go. If you doubt me, ask ppl that knows me...say Do Luck for example. He opened his eyes wide enough to see that its better than what he originally tought would good based on what he read in the forum.
Old Jan 29, 2005 | 01:26 PM
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I think both are awesome personally. Im not joking or nothing. They both have their disadvantages and advantages. My sister's VW Bug had double IDA 48's and in my experience it was such a pain in the *** to keep them setup right. And you couldn't start it below like -5. If one side Ran well, the other would run lean. It was a pain in the ***, hence why she sold it. She hated having to adjust them every few weeks. So now she drives a camaro z28 with a 350. She threw a holley on there in place of the edelbrock the previous owner had and it was very easy to get it to puuuur.

I'd like to try an IDA 48 or 51 on my 13B SP, but I dont have that kinda money. Well, I do, but its not worth it to me.
Old Jan 31, 2005 | 11:41 AM
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Yea, listen to Wackyracer and use a vdub carb! HA, Ha, ha ! ! ! and pay $1000's for it. HA, Ha, ha ! ! !

And yea the Holley is junk, I ran well over 10 secs in the 1/8th with the stock carb, but dropped around 1 sec off MY time (not hear say) when only putting the Holley and a RB intake on.

Dont use 600's they are way too big, but NO ONE HAS ANY NUMBERS at the strip with these wonderfull vdub carbs or stock carbs? Except me? Stock carbs are too small, webbers are too expensive and cheap Holley 600's are a dime a dozen and are very easy to tune, you be the judge.

I would think differently if someone would speak up and say, "I have run 9 flat on stock ports with a webber" or I ran 9.5 with a stock carb or SOMETHING? **** . . .

Wackyracer: Seems like you dont have the experience, to me? Where are your numbers at? Mr. experience . . .
Old Jan 31, 2005 | 11:45 AM
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Dude, you have no idea who you talking to. Watch your mouth. Wacko started working with rotaries when you were about 5 years old.
Old Jan 31, 2005 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 813KR$
Yea, listen to Wackyracer and use a vdub carb! HA, Ha, ha ! ! ! and pay $1000's for it. HA, Ha, ha ! ! !

And yea the Holley is junk, I ran well over 10 secs in the 1/8th with the stock carb, but dropped around 1 sec off MY time (not hear say) when only putting the Holley and a RB intake on.

Dont use 600's they are way too big, but NO ONE HAS ANY NUMBERS at the strip with these wonderfull vdub carbs or stock carbs? Except me? Stock carbs are too small, webbers are too expensive and cheap Holley 600's are a dime a dozen and are very easy to tune, you be the judge.

I would think differently if someone would speak up and say, "I have run 9 flat on stock ports with a webber" or I ran 9.5 with a stock carb or SOMETHING? **** . . .

Wackyracer: Seems like you dont have the experience, to me? Where are your numbers at? Mr. experience . . .
Unfortunately, I dont run 1/8 of a mile. Talk is cheap.
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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Alak
I think both are awesome personally. Im not joking or nothing. They both have their disadvantages and advantages. My sister's VW Bug had double IDA 48's and in my experience it was such a pain in the *** to keep them setup right. And you couldn't start it below like -5. If one side Ran well, the other would run lean. It was a pain in the ***, hence why she sold it. She hated having to adjust them every few weeks. So now she drives a camaro z28 with a 350. She threw a holley on there in place of the edelbrock the previous owner had and it was very easy to get it to puuuur.

I'd like to try an IDA 48 or 51 on my 13B SP, but I dont have that kinda money. Well, I do, but its not worth it to me.
Yeah the VW with dual carbs is probably a PITA but lucky we only have to deal with one of them. No need to synchronize two carbs. I do love the ease in tunning too. I had a little problem starting in 10 degree weather but a good battery would have got me out of that.
Old Jan 31, 2005 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 813KR$
Yea, listen to Wackyracer and use a vdub carb! HA, Ha, ha ! ! ! and pay $1000's for it. HA, Ha, ha ! ! !

Wow, for $1,000, I can have 2 sets of used 48 IDA and manifold. I should start selling my collection of IDA in your neighborhood then.



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