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View Poll Results: Should Atkins support some R&D on their product?
Yes, about time they invested something in their product we could justify the purchase
47.17%
Yes, little proof of the success of the camden (like the never-proven pineapple sleeves)
37.74%
No, who cares, the thing is outdated and I'd rather go turbo
11.32%
No, I wouldn't consider buying it either way
5.66%
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Camden Dyno Poll

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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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Camden Dyno Poll

If Dan was willing to spring $150 for some R&D, I would run my bridged camden on the dyno and do pulls with the 6,7 & 8 pulley and do one with open exhaust as well. I am both a critic and supporter of the camden based on application. If you want 300+ hp and a drag racer, then forget, if you wanna use stock ports, keep a quiet exhaust and have an awesome streetcar, than I am a supporter. Well Dan, care to chime in and support your product with supporting some postable testing? Last chance before the twincharging project to show your prospective customers some information.
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 10:15 PM
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Nice to see some votes! Keep them coming!
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 10:43 PM
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i would like to see some r&d on this i want to run a 300+ car was hoping for an N/A car but this might be the next best thing
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 02:37 AM
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I don't really think Dan would be insterested in handing over $150 to cover some dyno runs. I do agree however that some testing needs to be done so we can get a ballpark power range on the Camden and let those numbers sell the unit.
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff20B
I don't really think Dan would be insterested in handing over $150 to cover some dyno runs. I do agree however that some testing needs to be done so we can get a ballpark power range on the Camden and let those numbers sell the unit.
It would be just as inspiring for him to do the pulls i suggest and post a variety of real world results. I am just "offering" to save him the time and some expense and off the rotary world more information. Think of how much "I" have spent in pursuit of more power out of the charger, several different carbs, 3 different pulleys, water methanol. Posting of my results could only benefit his product and help his sales, why should I bother otherwise.
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 02:44 AM
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Imagine how many pineapple sleeves would get sold with someone posting true before and after dyno results rather than "seat of the pants" impression.
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Old Oct 7, 2007 | 10:21 PM
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so far 80% in favor os see some feedback
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 01:17 AM
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Wow 184 viewings and only 23 votes. Guess it is safe to say very few are actually interested in the results, including Atkins. I may go ahead with the pulls but likely just for my own records.................
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 02:29 AM
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Do you think you would post the results here? For the public record?
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 08:33 PM
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with only 26 respondents who really give a damn??
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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Some of us would.
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 10:45 PM
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with only 26 respondents who really give a damn??
Don't be an attention *****. Just do the dyno runs and post the results.
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 10:51 PM
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^+2 i agree with Jeff on that one but if they would be willing to compensate for you doing the pull that would be awesome. other wise just eat the costs and help them out a little
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff20B
Don't be an attention *****. Just do the dyno runs and post the results.
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they arent going to pay for, so hurry up and go do it so we can see the results!!
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 12:09 AM
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I'm gonna park it for the winter. My dyno contact wasn't available this past weekend, and I work this weekend and i am sure it will be snowing soon here anyway. But when I do test in the spring I'll post results. I may not test before the twincharge project though, but who knows if that will come together anyway.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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I have a 12a with a fullbridge, a 7" camden, 470cfm holly, and dual msd's
Should I put a 800cfm carb on it?
and right now i am running a #10 pully how many diffrent pullies are there for the camden 7" and which ones will give more boost my boost guage says I am only making 5 psi.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 10:58 PM
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Right carb but a 650 would be max. I have run an 850 on mine. #10 pulley is too small, it moves the power band down way too low, a bigger pulley will move the powerband up (higher) where the engine is more capable and make the charger run cooler. Best bet is the #7 pulley. I have run the 6 (10 pis current), 7 (10 psi, earlier boost, works well), 8 (10 psi, earlier boost yet, will peak at 12psi great for a stockport since boost starts to fall off after 6500) and a 10 (hit 20 psi like "right now!", awesome response, but boost quickly fell off, belt squealed no matter what tension and the charger heated up terribly!)
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 10:38 AM
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well I use to have a 600cfm on a 12a with only a streetport... are you sure you I dont need more?
What size pully are you running now?
Right now on the stock rims and small *** shitty tires I can run 14.3 1/4mi I would like to see something in the 12's for sure.
I was thinking about a little NOS.
Does anyone have any experience with supercharged nitrous rotary's?
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by john smack
well I use to have a 600cfm on a 12a with only a streetport... are you sure you I dont need more?
What size pully are you running now?
Right now on the stock rims and small *** shitty tires I can run 14.3 1/4mi I would like to see something in the 12's for sure.
I was thinking about a little NOS.
Does anyone have any experience with supercharged nitrous rotary's?
I never got around to installing my nitrous kit. Engine wasn't done and in until late July. I currently run the #6 however the #7 is my favorite. I tried both an 850 double pumper and a 870 avenger. The edelbrock 650 is still Mr Reliable hands down. The 850 is great to race with and may give a little more topend, but too many other sacrifices. It will have nitrous in the spring for sure, dyno runs will be made at that time for sure as well. As for the twincharging project, it is in it's budget & research state right now.
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 07:05 PM
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Sad, Atkins never even commented
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 01:04 PM
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Well wonder if I should comment or not. lol
Camden Supercharger looks nice on a car, sounds nice on the car, but high hp numbers on the car with the Camden on it.....Not going to happen as much as a Turbo.

Good luck getting any support
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 09:40 PM
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LOL, wondered if you might chime in. Another one like myself that's been there & done that too.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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Sad, Atkins never even commented
The biggest reason I dont say a thing on the Supercharger threads is I have been beaten and reneaten so many times that is makes the main guy {Me} making the kits not care and this goes for anyone else that makes new parts or kits for a 20 + year old car..

If you want info than you will have to call me on it....

as for dyno pulles I have had my 82 up to 175RWH or so and that was just tuned enough to surrive on the dyno.. Yes I could have done better with better tuning..

Dan

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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Atkins Dan
The biggest reason I dont say a thing on the Supercharger threads is I have been beaten and reneaten so many times that is makes the main guy {Me} making the kits not care and this goes for anyone else that makes new parts or kits for a 20 + year old car..

If you want info than you will have to call me on it....

as for dyno pulles I have had my 82 up to 175RWH or so and that was just tuned enough to surrive on the dyno.. Yes I could have done better with better tuning..

Dan
Is this for a 12a? becuase im only finding it for the 13b.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 01:10 PM
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I've always wanted the supercharger. I have a 12A streetport with racing beat 465 and racing beat streetport exhaust. I bought the exhaust from Kim who had the white gs that was supercharged. Her husband said that it was fast and sounded like a formula one car. I wish I could have seen it before she sold it. I also want to know what it would be like. Some say that the supercharger is a waste vs. the turbo, but I don't want to blow my car up trying to get a drag car.
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