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Old May 23, 2010 | 10:10 AM
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2nd gen direct fire trailing question

Ok so I know people say there's really no advantage to it but Id really like to use 10mm FD wires and not have to worry about finding a 10mm wire to run from the stock coil to the dizzy. So I figured I could just find a 2g trailing and mount it under my 2g leading coil but while searching I read that you could just get rid of trailing and retard leading 2 or 3 degrees. Which would be the better way to go?
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Old May 23, 2010 | 10:49 AM
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yes it will run just fine without trailing. but no need to retard the leading.
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Old May 23, 2010 | 10:57 AM
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Will ditching the trailing make it run ritch?
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Old May 23, 2010 | 11:01 AM
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Here's a few examples that showed up at the Lake House:





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwKlbX0DSRk
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Old May 23, 2010 | 11:35 AM
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Is it true that if I drop the trailing I'll lose my tech?
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Old May 23, 2010 | 12:45 PM
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your tach should run off of the leading. I ditch my direct fire and went back to my MSD running the leading coil. Didn't see the difference on the dyno.
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Old May 23, 2010 | 12:53 PM
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Yeah the direct fire coil isn't really gonna give you more hp but for the 12a it should give you a smoother idle and maybe better throttle reponse. Not sure about the 13b though. Ok so would it be better to just drop the trailing than to go direct fire trailing?
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Old May 23, 2010 | 02:30 PM
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84-85 if you drop the loose trailing you lose your tach signal and also fuel pump, but SA to early FB's you should be fine.
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Old May 23, 2010 | 03:30 PM
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Direct fire will help a lot with smoother revving and easier starting. Running no trailing will not
make you lose gas mileage (since the gas is already in the chamber) but it will smell a little rich.

If you plan on running just leading you can advance your timing further than if you were running
trailing as well.

I have a MSD6T box triggering 2nd gen leading coils, no trailing. Didn't start the car for about 8
months and put on a poorly tuned carb, started after the 3rd revolution.

EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cON1DU_5oDU
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you still get 2 sparks per rotation witn only a 2g coil. since its batch fired so I wouldn't think it would make much differance as far as afr's go. I have mine advaced quite a bit also,

and I like the direct fire, my car only shoots flames if I stay on the secoundarys for longer than a few secounds. where before it just shot flames randomly. on 83's you lose the tach if trailing ignitor is dead. but I think it always worked when I bet people I could run my car with the cap and rotor off. easy money.
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Old May 23, 2010 | 04:51 PM
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Yeah my cars an 83 but my engines a 79 so I guess the tech should be ok.
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Old May 23, 2010 | 04:56 PM
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A lil off topic but in this pic how do you move the alternator over to where the a/c used to be?
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alternator relocation kit, i forgot who sells them ...mazdatrix maybe?
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Sweet! I'll have to look into it
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Old May 23, 2010 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by jinxed4dub
you still get 2 sparks per rotation witn only a 2g coil. since its batch fired so I wouldn't think it would make much differance as far as afr's go. I have mine advaced quite a bit also,
Double spark usually ends after 3000 RPM (atleast on MSD's), there just isn't
enough time to energize and fire twice per chamber at that speed.
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