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Old 12-08-22, 04:08 PM
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1st gen taillight to body seal options

Seals are NLA from Mazda, Madatrix, Atkins, etc. Where is everyone finding taillight seals for these cars? A couple old posts suggest someone was manufacturing them at some point on ebay but they are all dead links these days. Best I have been able to find was Phil's Rotary on ebay and PacPerformance, both Australia based. They look to me they are selling the same part, and I ordered a pair of seals from Phil's Rotary and the fitment is poor and still leaking.
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I've had some success buying and then cutting tail-light gaskets using closed-cell foam, found at foam suppliers...
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I just bought some BUT they were not easy to install and the quality was very questionable, Let me shoot you the link ! If any one else want's them PM Me,
- Edit, NEVERMIND they are sold out .
Also i agree with you on the phills, the gasket quality is trash and they don't fit well without excessive trimming.

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Originally Posted by fbse7en
I've had some success buying and then cutting tail-light gaskets using closed-cell foam, found at foam suppliers...
This is a decent option that I hadn’t considered before. I suppose if nobody makes them you wouldn’t have any other choice but to go this route.
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I ordered the whole set from Australia.....contact Alexis Tretheway @FIBREMAZ ....he has everything and great prices.....awesome guy to deal with......



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I ordered the whole set from Australia.....contact Alexis Tretheway @FIBREMAZ ....he has everything and great prices.....awesome guy to deal with......
I asked him a few months ago and he said he did not sell the taillight gaskets
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https://www.pacperformance.com.au/ge...kets-series-23
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Originally Posted by Frogman
I asked him a few months ago and he said he did not sell the taillight gaskets
Oh...I get it now...you want the one that goes between the tail light and the body....the one that is like foam........sorry I misunderstood......

If I can find a set I'll let you know......
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Originally Posted by raven12aFB
Oh...I get it now...you want the one that goes between the tail light and the body....the one that is like foam........sorry I misunderstood......

If I can find a set I'll let you know......
I think it's best to make our own with silicone and weather sealer , I found a few OEM new old stock but some one seems to have bought them all.
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What about Butyl tape? The thick type. I used what I'll call Butyl rope around the brake booster and clutch master. It was a 1/4 " round strips about a foot long. This stuff never dries out, seals great, and conforms.

here is an example. Not the brand or type I used but just enough to give you same ideas.

https://www.amazon.com/Second-Skin-Multipurpose-Butyl-Rope/dp/B0155KELRW/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?keywords=butyl+rope&qid=1670773759&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&smid=A27VO4GWW2EDGM&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyV0pMSFpUM003SERDJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNzI5MjE4MjdSMFVYSjY2RzVYUCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMjA5NzE5MkRXT1o2WVc4U05XTiZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU= https://www.amazon.com/Second-Skin-Multipurpose-Butyl-Rope/dp/B0155KELRW/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?keywords=butyl+rope&qid=1670773759&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&smid=A27VO4GWW2EDGM&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyV0pMSFpUM003SERDJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNzI5MjE4MjdSMFVYSjY2RzVYUCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMjA5NzE5MkRXT1o2WVc4U05XTiZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=


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Prob a bit of too-late advice, but may help with future applications?
IF you do find an actual set of seals (and perhaps this may be useful with your own creation...?):
When I pulled my original (then 30yr old) seals and SA lights out of the chassis, the OE rubbers simply tore as they had sort of affixed themselves to the bodywork.
I read up - and applied this solution: btw the two sides of the seal (body contact points), run a finger-tip smear of CHASSIS-LUBE grease btw.
This seals up nicely for weather protection BUT does NOT allow the rubber to 'seal' onto the metal, and then stick and tear on a removal. Used this for 20 yrs now works like a charm!!

Stu A
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I’ve seen these and they look like the same seals that Phil’s Rotary on eBay sells.
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Originally Posted by chirmstream
I’ve seen these and they look like the same seals that Phil’s Rotary on eBay sells.
They are garbage save your $$. Phills sells Chinese repro parts and SOME of his stuff is great , but some of his rubber stuff is of questionable quality.
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Pac Performance buys wholesale from Phils - they are the same product.

As noted above, the factory taillight to body seals stick to the bodywork - are they meant to be stuck on? Mine were stuck on the body when removing taillights as well.

Perhaps that is why the Phils' ones don't seal properly? I have a pair but haven't fitted them and I must say the material and shape looks fine to me. I suspected it would require a bead of buytl rubber as an adhesive/sealant.
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Originally Posted by KYPREO
Pac Performance buys wholesale from Phils - they are the same product.

As noted above, the factory taillight to body seals stick to the bodywork - are they meant to be stuck on? Mine were stuck on the body when removing taillights as well.

Perhaps that is why the Phils' ones don't seal properly? I have a pair but haven't fitted them and I must say the material and shape looks fine to me. I suspected it would require a bead of buytl rubber as an adhesive/sealant.
The seals i got were made out of some rubber that was crumbly for lack.of a better term .
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The ones I got from Phil are basically too short on the bottom side. I suppose adhering it to the body would allow you to stretch it out and fit in the bottom side. I’d rather get a gasket that fits to begin with though.

Mine were also stuck to the car and tore when I removed them. Now I’m wishing I never messed with them.
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