1st gen taillight to body seal options
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1st gen taillight to body seal options
Seals are NLA from Mazda, Madatrix, Atkins, etc. Where is everyone finding taillight seals for these cars? A couple old posts suggest someone was manufacturing them at some point on ebay but they are all dead links these days. Best I have been able to find was Phil's Rotary on ebay and PacPerformance, both Australia based. They look to me they are selling the same part, and I ordered a pair of seals from Phil's Rotary and the fitment is poor and still leaking.
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I've had some success buying and then cutting tail-light gaskets using closed-cell foam, found at foam suppliers...
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I just bought some BUT they were not easy to install and the quality was very questionable, Let me shoot you the link ! If any one else want's them PM Me,
- Edit, NEVERMIND they are sold out .
Also i agree with you on the phills, the gasket quality is trash and they don't fit well without excessive trimming.
- Edit, NEVERMIND they are sold out .
Also i agree with you on the phills, the gasket quality is trash and they don't fit well without excessive trimming.
Last edited by Frogman; 12-08-22 at 10:33 PM.
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I ordered the whole set from Australia.....contact Alexis Tretheway @FIBREMAZ ....he has everything and great prices.....awesome guy to deal with......
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What about Butyl tape? The thick type. I used what I'll call Butyl rope around the brake booster and clutch master. It was a 1/4 " round strips about a foot long. This stuff never dries out, seals great, and conforms.
here is an example. Not the brand or type I used but just enough to give you same ideas.
here is an example. Not the brand or type I used but just enough to give you same ideas.
https://www.amazon.com/Second-Skin-Multipurpose-Butyl-Rope/dp/B0155KELRW/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?keywords=butyl+rope&qid=1670773759&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&smid=A27VO4GWW2EDGM&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyV0pMSFpUM003SERDJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNzI5MjE4MjdSMFVYSjY2RzVYUCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMjA5NzE5MkRXT1o2WVc4U05XTiZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
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Prob a bit of too-late advice, but may help with future applications?
IF you do find an actual set of seals (and perhaps this may be useful with your own creation...?):
When I pulled my original (then 30yr old) seals and SA lights out of the chassis, the OE rubbers simply tore as they had sort of affixed themselves to the bodywork.
I read up - and applied this solution: btw the two sides of the seal (body contact points), run a finger-tip smear of CHASSIS-LUBE grease btw.
This seals up nicely for weather protection BUT does NOT allow the rubber to 'seal' onto the metal, and then stick and tear on a removal. Used this for 20 yrs now works like a charm!!
Stu A
80GS
AZ
IF you do find an actual set of seals (and perhaps this may be useful with your own creation...?):
When I pulled my original (then 30yr old) seals and SA lights out of the chassis, the OE rubbers simply tore as they had sort of affixed themselves to the bodywork.
I read up - and applied this solution: btw the two sides of the seal (body contact points), run a finger-tip smear of CHASSIS-LUBE grease btw.
This seals up nicely for weather protection BUT does NOT allow the rubber to 'seal' onto the metal, and then stick and tear on a removal. Used this for 20 yrs now works like a charm!!
Stu A
80GS
AZ
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fbse7en (12-14-22)
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Pac Performance buys wholesale from Phils - they are the same product.
As noted above, the factory taillight to body seals stick to the bodywork - are they meant to be stuck on? Mine were stuck on the body when removing taillights as well.
Perhaps that is why the Phils' ones don't seal properly? I have a pair but haven't fitted them and I must say the material and shape looks fine to me. I suspected it would require a bead of buytl rubber as an adhesive/sealant.
As noted above, the factory taillight to body seals stick to the bodywork - are they meant to be stuck on? Mine were stuck on the body when removing taillights as well.
Perhaps that is why the Phils' ones don't seal properly? I have a pair but haven't fitted them and I must say the material and shape looks fine to me. I suspected it would require a bead of buytl rubber as an adhesive/sealant.
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Pac Performance buys wholesale from Phils - they are the same product.
As noted above, the factory taillight to body seals stick to the bodywork - are they meant to be stuck on? Mine were stuck on the body when removing taillights as well.
Perhaps that is why the Phils' ones don't seal properly? I have a pair but haven't fitted them and I must say the material and shape looks fine to me. I suspected it would require a bead of buytl rubber as an adhesive/sealant.
As noted above, the factory taillight to body seals stick to the bodywork - are they meant to be stuck on? Mine were stuck on the body when removing taillights as well.
Perhaps that is why the Phils' ones don't seal properly? I have a pair but haven't fitted them and I must say the material and shape looks fine to me. I suspected it would require a bead of buytl rubber as an adhesive/sealant.
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The ones I got from Phil are basically too short on the bottom side. I suppose adhering it to the body would allow you to stretch it out and fit in the bottom side. I’d rather get a gasket that fits to begin with though.
Mine were also stuck to the car and tore when I removed them. Now I’m wishing I never messed with them.
Mine were also stuck to the car and tore when I removed them. Now I’m wishing I never messed with them.
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