1st Gen General Discussion The place for non-technical discussion about 1st Gen RX-7s or if there's no better place for your topic

Ignition Timing is Messed Up

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 11, 2023 | 04:01 PM
  #1  
rotordogg's Avatar
Thread Starter
Customizer
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 333
Likes: 0
From: Chagrin Falls, OH
Ignition Timing is Messed Up

HI All. I had my engine rebuilt in my 85 GSLSE. I restabbed the dizzy and have it running, but it doesn't idle all that smooth. It does die at a stop light and has poor power on acceleration. I checked the timing to dial it in and noticed the L1 and T1 is reading the SAME mark! And the L2 and T2 aren't even showing a mark. On the install, I cleaned and repainted the marks so I can see them clearly. I even added a white mark in case I was going past the yellow.

Anyone seen this or know what I'm doing wrong??


Reply
Old Jun 12, 2023 | 03:11 PM
  #2  
sirvelonodnarb's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2022
Posts: 37
Likes: 34
From: TX
When you inserted the distributor back into the case, did you make sure to align the pin hole mark up? That can throw it off severely.
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2023 | 03:17 PM
  #3  
KansasCityREPU's Avatar
Out In the Barn
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 6,704
Likes: 1,250
From: KC
Make sure the dizzy gear is aligned to the divit and not the roll pin.
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2023 | 12:59 PM
  #4  
Benjamin4456's Avatar
3D Printed
Tenured Member: 5 Years
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 1,127
Likes: 278
From: Beaverton, OR
The alignment of the dizzy relative to the engine shouldn't really be the issue here since the leading timing mark is near where it's suppose to be. You more likely want to be looking at the trailing timing adjustment which is done by loosening two screws on the trailing vacuum advance diaphragm and pushing/pulling it to adjust timing relative to the leading mark. Granted in the middle of the adjustment range should be pretty close to the factory 20 degree retard, and I'm not sure if it's actually possible to move it more than +/- ~10 degrees from spec, but perhaps you might have accidently messed with it when servicing the dizzy or something? Did you have the dizzy apart recently or have you not touched it since it was last running?

If the trailing adjustment ends up being all well and good it's also possible that your timing light is picking up cross-talk from the leading wire. Usually you'd see a combination of both leading and trailing pulses in such a case but it's not impossible, though I would say this is unlikely. Other than that I'd just check over everything and make sure no leads or coils are swapped around. One last thing to note is make sure you're setting the timing with the vacuum advance lines unplugged and capped (the lines themselves that is, not the diaphragms) and at normal idle speeds.

TL;DR, stab the dizzy so that the leading is within adjustment range, which is TDC and the dizzy gear aligned with the divot. To sanity check yourself without pulling the whole dizzy you can take off the cap, set the engine to TDC, and the rotor arrow should be pointing towards the right plus or minus a smidge. If the trailing is still being wonky after that something else is the issue.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
xantusak
Megasquirt Forum
0
Oct 5, 2018 10:03 PM
RickRx
Haltech Forum
7
Jan 5, 2009 07:47 PM
signofinfinity
Wolf 3D
68
Apr 23, 2007 08:07 PM
EatRiceDontDriveIt
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
2
Oct 31, 2005 10:26 AM
crankit
1st Generation Specific (1979-1985)
1
Feb 14, 2002 03:43 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:35 PM.