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Old May 19, 2005 | 02:29 AM
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anyone got a 20b map?

more for setup than any actual fuel or ignition curves...we didn't get anything with the unit (3d v4+) and can't get any replies to emails.

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Old May 19, 2005 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by GUITARJUNKIE28
more for setup than any actual fuel or ignition curves...we didn't get anything with the unit (3d v4+) and can't get any replies to emails.

thanks in advance
try this for set up...
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Old May 19, 2005 | 07:47 PM
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thanks a lot!!
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Old May 20, 2005 | 12:13 AM
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i didnt look through the rest of this map, but the injector sequencing seems off.

the offsets are all 0 and the skip for all of them is set to 2, so they all fire together at once per rpm.

inj1 offset should be 0
inj2 offset should be 1
inj3 offset should be 2

should help clean up the idle if you use this as a base map
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Old May 20, 2005 | 02:31 AM
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thanks nyt.....i was given that map for the 20B, and I posted it as is...

haha....i have enough issues to clear with a two rotor....three rotors will come much later..

thanks for the corrections!!
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 07:30 AM
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Let us know of any updates or progression with the 20B if possible...
Would be interesting to see how it goes...
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 09:42 AM
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alright.
i've been so incredibly busy with every other car in the worls the last few weeks, work on it is going slow.
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Old Jun 11, 2005 | 06:33 PM
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ok, time to start wiring the car up today....it didn't come with a schematic either!! guess i'll have to get the pin #'s and wire colors from their respective places in the manual. that's gonna take a butt-load of time.
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Old Jun 11, 2005 | 11:22 PM
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the install manual has all the information you need
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 01:05 AM
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doesn't mention the 3 rotor except for one ignition drawing.
it seems clear enough for the 2 rotor sections, but i'm a little confused--since i'm not familiar with the ecu.

i think once i get it all figured out, i'll do a writeup to help the other guys out.
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 01:17 AM
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well...

fuel i dont assume to be too much trouble... you have injectors 1 2 3 and staged

ignition, with that map, ign 2 4 and 6 are leading, 1 3 and 5 are trailing
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 02:05 AM
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cool. that's the stuff i was wondering.

1,2, and 3 are primary, right... then is there only one staged signal? so it'd be sequential firing primaries and group fired secondaries if i'm understanding that correctly?
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 02:09 AM
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the staged injection output is for the staged injectors.. you run them all in parallel off the staged injector wire.

your primaries go run off of inj1 inj2 and inj3
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 10:08 AM
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okie.

thanks for the help.

usually i just attack things and git r' done, but just because this is the first wolf i've een seen--let alone played with, AND it's a 3 rotor... well, you know
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 12:39 AM
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20b map

Hey Guys,
Here is a 20B map. I have wired and run and driven 3.
If anybody needs help CALL ME!! I have spent hours sometimes
weeks or even months developing maps. I will give anybody
the info I have. I don't want to post somthing that doesn't
match the car's needs.

Thanks,
Chris Greene
Wolf EMS USA
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 07:10 PM
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by RLC
Hey Guys,
Here is a 20B map. I have wired and run and driven 3.
If anybody needs help CALL ME!! I have spent hours sometimes
weeks or even months developing maps. I will give anybody
the info I have. I don't want to post somthing that doesn't
match the car's needs.

Thanks,
Chris Greene
Wolf EMS USA

just fyi you got some weird values pokin around in the air temp correction map.

at 2C its set to -50% =]

and at 6 its set to 43%
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 07:49 PM
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okie, i've been really busy, so i just started laying out the harness.

pin 25 (tan/black) is labeled as aux in 1 AND aux out 1.
same with pin 29 (orange/dk blue)

so which is it? can it go either way, or is it a typo?
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 04:15 AM
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pin 25 is Aux 1 and can be either a input out a output but not both. pin 29 is Aux 2 and it can be a input or output like Aux1 as well. The rest are outputs.
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 10:10 AM
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that's all i needed... it's both--just not at the same time.

muchas gracias.
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 12:02 AM
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just fyi you got some weird values pokin around in the air temp correction map.

at 2C its set to -50% =]

and at 6 its set to 43%

Thanks I found that about a day or two later too.
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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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Thanks for your help Chris as it is highly appreciated! GUITARJUNKIE28 (Dave) has been doing my 20B FC install with the wolf. I bought the Wolf3DV4+ off of John Schubert (owner of rx7.org / my Girlfriend's dad) because he received the incorrect one for his Turbo II 1st gen swap. Just thought I'd let you know the history here.

We are having a little confusion with your map and will be calling to ask a few questions.
Lets see if we can get her fired up this weekend!

Thanks for your help! =)


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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 06:59 PM
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yea, me = teh wolf noob
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 09:47 PM
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alright, we finally got around to trying to start the thing, but the tach is reading about 4x what the actual rpm's are.

coolant temp and air temp are both way off too--is that a calibration issue, or does it sound more like a wiring issue?
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 06:42 AM
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what do they say? -64 on both temps? Its a map issue unless your using a diff kind of temp sensors


How do you have the tac wired up? From the tac output off the wolf? or off the coil? IIRC if you wire it off the coil its way off, and there is an 'adjustment' you can do inside the gauge cluster

-Jacob
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