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Old 02-18-14, 03:17 PM
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Non Seq. Turbo Conversion by Garage Life

Hey Everyone. I dropped off my car to Daniel Kuo at Garage Life in El Monte to do a Non-Sequential conversion. I heard a lot of good things about Garage Life so I decided to give them a try. I will update you guys ever step of the way.

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So far, he has taken out the UIM and removed all the emissions. The next step will to replace the old tired turbos with a non-seq low mileage one.



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How much do they charge?
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Originally Posted by donrafa7
How much do they charge?
I am not sure what he charges for the NS conversion itself because I am having him do other things as well (wideband system, downpipe, midpipe, pfc installation, etc). Also, I provided all of the parts so he is just doing the labor.

I would recommend calling him. I text him and he answers back fairy quickly. His prices are very reasonable. I am sure you can stop by his shop to see the work he does.
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UPDATE:

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good thing about the NS setup...no more rats nest!
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Originally Posted by DJDINO
good thing about the NS setup...no more rats nest!
Yup. The main reason I am switching over to NS is because 90 percent of the time my seq. turbos were not working right.
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Due to some technical difficulties, we are not longer using the pineapple air pump delete pulley. We decided to use the greddy pully kit instead. Any one else using this setup at the moment? if so, how do you guys like it?
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why couldnt you use the pineapple idler pulley? It helps keep the belt from slipping which is good if you want to track the car. Ultimately using the stock sized pulleys is better slightly b/c it spins the alternator and wp faster but honestly I doubt it makes a big diff. A lot of ppl use the greddy pulleys and they work fine.

hows the conversion going?

You should ceramic coat your DP if its still off. There are a few places around your area that do it.
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Originally Posted by ArmenMAxx
why couldnt you use the pineapple idler pulley? It helps keep the belt from slipping which is good if you want to track the car. Ultimately using the stock sized pulleys is better slightly b/c it spins the alternator and wp faster but honestly I doubt it makes a big diff. A lot of ppl use the greddy pulleys and they work fine.

hows the conversion going?

You should ceramic coat your DP if its still off. There are a few places around your area that do it.
I initially bought the pineapple pulley but I guess when they were taking out the air pump, the bolt was seized and snapped inside. I asked if it could be drilled out but i was told that it would need to completely centered or else the bolts for the water pump won't line up. It was less of a risk to just do the greddy pulleys.

I was told by using a ribbed belt, their won't be slippage. I am hoping that it work out and it doesn't slip.

The conversion is almost complete. I am waiting on the injectors and the rails to arrive. I bought 4 850cc injectors with the rails. The sell got them cleaned and ready to go so all i need to do is have in installed. Assuming that all goes well, the car should be on the dyno this weekend or early next week.

I am thinking of tuning to 13 or 14 psi. I know the turbo life will decrease but since this is my weekend car, I figure it should be fine since I will be putting an average of 100 miles a weekend on it (the most).

I am aiming for 330-340whp. Daniel Kuo, the mechanic and tuner from Garage Life feels that we can achieve that. I will post a video of the dyno run and sheet.

Ill let you know what happens. You said you are coming back in March, right?
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If its not too late, you can have the cleaning place (assuming RC engineering) to bore 2 of the 850's to 1300's as your secondaries. Just my advice, 4 850's may max out at 330whp.

Im back ~March 9. Lets see if your ride is ready by then.
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Dyno Tuning today!
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sweet dyno time is fun...
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Sooo... Yesterday did not go as planned. We started tuning at 4pm. The first fun was at 249whp. Daniel started changing the fuel map and we did a few more runs but the hp was dropping. One the second run we got 230whp.

We thought it might be the spark plugs so I went to Napa and bought 4 new plugs. After installing them, the car ran much better. THEN, out of nowhere, the car started to run lean in the high rpms. So, we began diagnosing.

We thought it might be the fuel pump so we I went to Pepboys and bought a new fuel pump. We installed the fuel pump only to have the car run lean again. We did a voltage check and saw that the fuel pump is not getting full power so we ran a straight wire from the battery to the pump and it was still running lean. (we need to rewire the power to the pump later on but for tuning purposes we tried to do a quick fix) So, it was not the fuel pump that was the problem.

We thought it might be the secondary injectors so we went back to Daniel shop and grabbed injectors with the rails. We changed out the secondary injectors with the rails and while doing a fuel test to see if their were any leaks, we saw that the pulsation damper was leaking, so we changed that as well. No more fuel leak. We ran some runs and the car was still not putting out what it should. We were running 230whp. At this point it was already 10pm.

We thought it might be a boost leak somewhere so we hooked up the line from the dyno to the car so check the boost and it showed that we were only boosting 7psi instead of 10psi. We didnt find any boost leaks which was wired. So, we used vice grips to clamp the hose to increase boost and did a couple of runs at 10psi but were were still in the 234whp range. At this point it was 11pm and we basically beat the crap out of the engine so we called it a night.

We decided to get a boost controller and give it another try in the next week or so. I am looking to purchase a boost controller now so hopefully that will solve the issue.

Does ANYONE have an idea of what it might be? If so, PLEASE suggest it and we can check it out.
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dunno, but i can tell you from experience that those NS twins aren't going to last long at 13+ psi. good luck diagnosing.
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Originally Posted by Integral
dunno, but i can tell you from experience that those NS twins aren't going to last long at 13+ psi. good luck diagnosing.
Yea, we are not looking to tune that high up. The most we will do is 12psi. We are trying to make around 280-300whp at 10psi. Thank you for the good luck wishes. I think we are going to need it
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Try looking into ignition issues. Bad leading coil, coil harness, plug wires, etc. I dont think you need a HKS twinpower completely, but itll help out.

Do you still have a cat? maybe its clogged? Fuel filter clogged? Rag left in your intercooler? These wont explain the leaning issue, but they could be the cause for your low power. Which pepboys fuel pump did you buy? I wouldnt try it honestly, buy a reputable pump like the new walbro, supra pump or bosch, etc.
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^^^^What he said. Also maybe a bad fuel pressure regulator. I would Install a fuel gauge In the Feed line too. Only reason for you to go really lean is something wrong with fuel. Definitely fuel filter too.
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Originally Posted by ArmenMAxx
Try looking into ignition issues. Bad leading coil, coil harness, plug wires, etc. I dont think you need a HKS twinpower completely, but itll help out.

Do you still have a cat? maybe its clogged? Fuel filter clogged? Rag left in your intercooler? These wont explain the leaning issue, but they could be the cause for your low power. Which pepboys fuel pump did you buy? I wouldnt try it honestly, buy a reputable pump like the new walbro, supra pump or bosch, etc.
If it were the coils wouldn't the car idle rough? It idles really good. I will change the plug wires for sure before the next run.

I don't have cats, I just installed a midpipe. As far as the fuel filter goes, wouldn't car idle rough again at idle? I went with a denso pump. It is the same that is used in the supra.

I hope they didn't get a rag stuck in the intercooler lol. I will check on that as well.




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^^^^What he said. Also maybe a bad fuel pressure regulator. I would Install a fuel gauge In the Feed line too. Only reason for you to go really lean is something wrong with fuel. Definitely fuel filter too.
I changed the fuel rails, which included the regulator and injectors. After I changed it, the car was not running lean anymore. The problem now is that it does not boost past 7psi so I ordered a boost controller. Just waiting on that so we can go back on the dyno.
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If its the leading coil, you may not notice anything honestly. If ur still making low power adter u fix the boost issue, id look into replacing it.

Keep us updated.
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Originally Posted by ArmenMAxx
If its the leading coil, you may not notice anything honestly. If ur still making low power adter u fix the boost issue, id look into replacing it.

Keep us updated.
Will do. Thanks for your help
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Good luck with everything.

DK is a cool dude.
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Good luck with everything.

DK is a cool dude.
Thanks. Yea, I have only known him for a few months but so far DK is a kool and honest guy.
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Dyno part 2 did not go so well. The car ran perfect this time because we found the boost leak and fixed it but the tuning did not go so well. We ended up getting 250whp out of it at 10psi. This is on dyno dynamics and I read that dyno dynamics usually shows around 12% low numbers than other dynos. I am not sure how true this is but if that is the case, we put out 280whp if it were dynoed on another dyno.

Any input on the difference in the dyno systems?
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Originally Posted by ArmAnirx7
Dyno part 2 did not go so well. The car ran perfect this time because we found the boost leak and fixed it but the tuning did not go so well. We ended up getting 250whp out of it at 10psi. This is on dyno dynamics and I read that dyno dynamics usually shows around 12% low numbers than other dynos. I am not sure how true this is but if that is the case, we put out 280whp if it were dynoed on another dyno.

Any input on the difference in the dyno systems?
Not sure but I need a dyno myself. My dynojet on stock twins read really high
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Originally Posted by jasonn
Not sure but I need a dyno myself. My dynojet on stock twins read really high
What kind of numbers did you put out?

They call the dyno dynamics the "heartbreak dyno" because of the low numbers it puts out.

If you want, I can set up a dyno session for you to see what kind of power you make on the dyno dynamics dyno. I'm sure I can get you a good deal.


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