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Old 03-01-07, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by sleeper7
^^ you and Natey make sure you know what your talking about before you go giving *facts*. It is legal in some states. where i live (utah) its illegal, and you get a pretty heavy fine for doing this...
I don't plan on turning Mormon anytime soon, so I think I'm gonna be OK. Plus, I don't even ride a bike, I'm just repeating the facts that I got from a California Highway Patrol officer.
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Originally Posted by DomFD3S
If I'm on the freeway, and I see a drunk driver...who do I call?

I've called 911, but that ultimately was useless, as they referred me to CHP.
When I called CHP, nothing happend as no officer showed up at all after I followed the individual (for miles!!!)
911 is there to refer you to the appropriate agency that needs to respond. If you tell the CHP that the "Suspected" DUI individual is weaving all over the road and people are having to slam on their brakes and swerve out of the way they will respond 20 times faster. You have to exagagreate the facts.
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Originally Posted by DomFD3S
If I'm on the freeway, and I see a drunk driver...who do I call?

I've called 911, but that ultimately was useless, as they referred me to CHP.
When I called CHP, nothing happend as no officer showed up at all after I followed the individual (for miles!!!)
i would go talk to a city councilman or some politian over this. This concerns me. The one time i saw a drunk driver, (saw him pitching beer cans out the window, and swerving all over the road) i called 911 and within 2 min. there were 5-6 cops hauling *** to catch up with us. The 911 dispatcher told me to pull over behind the police cars so i could fill out a witness statement. When i got done filling that out the cop asked me if i would like to go a shooting range with him sometime. i told him I dont have a gun, and he said, " i got my tactical weapons firearms I hardly use. i got to make sure they fire correctly.'

so i went and shot guns with him, and 2 other cops about a week later. (it was so badass.. got to shoot a machine gun, shotgun, and everything.)

i dont really know why he volunteered to do this, but i think it was his way of saying thank you.
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Originally Posted by DomFD3S
When can an individual perform a "citizens arrest"?
When a misdemeanor or Felony is or has been committed against yourself or you or a witness to either against another individual. You are allowed to use reasonable force to detain them until law enforcement has arrived. However depending on the circumstance they perfer that you let the person go and report the incident.

You can also be the ticket issuer if the vehicle code violation is a misdemeanor. Meaning if you are a witness to a moving viloation that is a misdemeanor in your State and you follow the person and contact the police. They will show up and issue the citation and you will sign it as the issuer. You will have to show up in court along with the officer.
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Originally Posted by Natey
I don't plan on turning Mormon anytime soon, so I think I'm gonna be OK. Plus, I don't even ride a bike, I'm just repeating the facts that I got from a California Highway Patrol officer.
when did the subject of religion come up?
utah isnt the only state in the country that it is illegal to do that in. Actually i think it is illegal in 15 states.. But thanks for your childish response. Im glad your so little minded to think that just because i live in utah i am mormon.
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Originally Posted by rx7doctor
When a misdemeanor or Felony is or has been committed against yourself or you or a witness to either against another individual. You are allowed to use reasonable force to detain them until law enforcement has arrived. However depending on the circumstance they perfer that you let the person go and report the incident.

You can also be the ticket issuer if the vehicle code violation is a misdemeanor. Meaning if you are a witness to a moving viloation that is a misdemeanor in your State and you follow the person and contact the police. They will show up and issue the citation and you will sign it as the issuer. You will have to show up in court along with the officer.
DAM^^ thats almost a strait quote from "the book"..
i say fu*k it. i am going to detain someone if they commit a crime while i am watching.
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Originally Posted by sleeper7
^^ you and Natey make sure you know what your talking about before you go giving *facts*. It is legal in some states. where i live (utah) its illegal, and you get a pretty heavy fine for doing this. To find out if its legal in your state consult with someone who has passed the state bar exam, or check with your states Department of Motor Vehicles.
1. natey said CHP. Do you know what CHP is? hmm, maybe that would give it away at what state he is talking about.

2. i don't give a flying **** what is illegal in utah.

3. this isnt even the utah regnional section, wtf??
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I've wondered this for a long time.....what happens when you get pulled over on a highway by CHP, they tell you to pop the hood and give you a ticket to go to a ref station because of modified crap? I hear you can just go to court and pay a hefty fine like 5-600 bucks and get out of the ref ticket and not have to fix anything. My question is if that is true and you do pay it off, what happens let's say if you get pulled over again by CHP the next day? Are you exempt from getting a ref ticket by him because you just got one and paid it off? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by cool_as_crap
1. natey said CHP. Do you know what CHP is? hmm, maybe that would give it away at what state he is talking about.

2. i don't give a flying **** what is illegal in utah.

3. this isnt even the utah regnional section, wtf??
yes i do know what California Highway Patrol is. Well he openly said it is legal. i was merely arguing the "fact". Your correct this isnt the utah regional section. However i viewed this because i also have a house in Cali...

just curious.. why are you sticking up for him anyway? i figured he could do it for himself. (he would probably agree with that)
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well heres my .2 cents

Fumanchu well i have heard some crazy stories and gossip from friends that i have met while i am stationed here in california. Mostly about getting pulled over and getting your car searched. In florida they dont do that, hell at all if anything all will do is give you a ticket for loud exhaust. You will have to worry about mainly the loud music getting you a ticket.

I have been building my car for a couple of months we are looking at some good numbers on the hp side. An i am afraid of driving it on the streets because getting pulled because my car looks like its modified. So i am shipping it back home as soon as i get it tuned for a break in its gone.

My question is if i drive normal obey the posted driving laws. Can a cop actually pull me over just because my car looks like its modified?

Wouldnt that be discrimination or no?

I was just wondering , no hating or picking your brain...i understand why you guys do what you do, but even for a person who does not street race and goes to tracks only, obeys the laws(on the street) and keeps a low profile...does it mean he has to be classified as a street racer because the car he has.

What about these muscle cars we see on the streets...they can have headers and other mods like non street legal carbs and hp numbers ranging between 400-700 on th streets. And they dont get even harrased. Is it discrimination or no.

Oh sorry if i dont make sense -Alex
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Originally Posted by DomFD3S
If law enforcement has cameras mounted in their cars for use in court proceedings where traffic violations occur (we've all seen this type of video footage), can't a private individual do the same to his/her car for use in contesting tickets, entrapment and unlawful police harrassment? The reason I ask, is what if a cop is trailing a vehicle EXTREMELY close (within reason that if a normal person was doing this, a ticket would be issued for following too closely)? This video footage would show that the police officer was "possibly" harrassing an individual. (Again, I do not see a problem w/ video footage in this case, but thought I would ask).
I had video running when i got pulled over 1 time and the first thing the cop said when he got to my window "You better turn that off right now before i arrest you." I'd like to know the rulling on this as well.
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Originally Posted by sleeper7
yes i do know what California Highway Patrol is. Well he openly said it is legal. i was merely arguing the "fact". Your correct this isnt the utah regional section. However i viewed this because i also have a house in Cali...

just curious.. why are you sticking up for him anyway? i figured he could do it for himself. (he would probably agree with that)
I wasn't sticking up for natey, hell there isnt much to defend against the dumbass statement that you post. I was just making sure you knew what state we are talking about, because it seems your the only one who can't figure out that everyone else in here is in CA.
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Originally Posted by sleeper7
yes i do know what California Highway Patrol is. Well he openly said it is legal. i was merely arguing the "fact". Your correct this isnt the utah regional section. However i viewed this because i also have a house in Cali...

just curious.. why are you sticking up for him anyway? i figured he could do it for himself. (he would probably agree with that)
I'm going to go out on a limb and say, this is West coast section where we are talking about west coast laws and you through Utah in there. A state where you can't even buy alcohol on Sundays, and i thought CA had problems.
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Originally Posted by El Nene 7
well heres my .2 cents

Fumanchu well i have heard some crazy stories and gossip from friends that i have met while i am stationed here in california. Mostly about getting pulled over and getting your car searched. In florida they dont do that, hell at all if anything all will do is give you a ticket for loud exhaust. You will have to worry about mainly the loud music getting you a ticket.

I have been building my car for a couple of months we are looking at some good numbers on the hp side. An i am afraid of driving it on the streets because getting pulled because my car looks like its modified. So i am shipping it back home as soon as i get it tuned for a break in its gone.

My question is if i drive normal obey the posted driving laws. Can a cop actually pull me over just because my car looks like its modified?

Wouldnt that be discrimination or no?

I was just wondering , no hating or picking your brain...i understand why you guys do what you do, but even for a person who does not street race and goes to tracks only, obeys the laws(on the street) and keeps a low profile...does it mean he has to be classified as a street racer because the car he has.

What about these muscle cars we see on the streets...they can have headers and other mods like non street legal carbs and hp numbers ranging between 400-700 on th streets. And they dont get even harrased. Is it discrimination or no.

Oh sorry if i dont make sense -Alex

first of all.. if they pull you over, you have the right to know what its for, so ask the cop. second they dont have the right to search your car unless they have a search warrant, or probable cause you have a weapon, drugs or paraphernalia.
so unless you are an idiot and tell the cop you have a ounce of coke in the car, or have white powder on the seat, or a bullet laying on the carpet, they cant legally search your car. Unless of course you give them permission.
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^^^ what my friend Dave aka guitarjunkie got pulled one night with us and he got asked to open his hood...sneaky Dave told him his latch was broke and he could get to the engine bay and the cop only pulled him for rolling a stop sign.

so once again Fumanchu can you please answer this question
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Originally Posted by El Nene 7

My question is if i drive normal obey the posted driving laws. Can a cop actually pull me over just because my car looks like its modified?
yup
suspicion of being modified.
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Originally Posted by cool_as_crap
I wasn't sticking up for natey, hell there isnt much to defend against the dumbass statement that you post. I was just making sure you knew what state we are talking about, because it seems your the only one who can't figure out that everyone else in here is in CA.
well, if you read my statement above, you will see that i too live in cali. ( its kind of fun.. i get to snowboard in the winter, and play on the beach in the summer..)
i was stating that because this section does not apply strictly to california. it applies to multiple states, in which there might me one that driving between cars on a motorcycle is against the law. (did you even open your mind to that posibility?)

on the video camera in the car subject..

the cop has no legal justification to make you turn off the video. IF it had been me in that situation i would have said, you turn off your video camera, and i will turn mine off.
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Originally Posted by sleeper7
first of all.. if they pull you over, you have the right to know what its for, so ask the cop. second they dont have the right to search your car unless they have a search warrant, or probable cause you have a weapon, drugs or paraphernalia.
so unless you are an idiot and tell the cop you have a ounce of coke in the car, or have white powder on the seat, or a bullet laying on the carpet, they cant legally search your car. Unless of course you give them permission.
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Originally Posted by sleeper7
well, if you read my statement above, you will see that i too live in cali. ( its kind of fun.. i get to snowboard in the winter, and play on the beach in the summer..)
i was stating that because this section does not apply strictly to california. it applies to multiple states, in which there might me one that driving between cars on a motorcycle is against the law. (did you even open your mind to that posibility?)

on the video camera in the car subject..

the cop has no legal justification to make you turn off the video. IF it had been me in that situation i would have said, you turn off your video camera, and i will turn mine off.
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Originally Posted by sleeper7
well, if you read my statement above, you will see that i too live in cali. ( its kind of fun.. i get to snowboard in the winter, and play on the beach in the summer..)
i was stating that because this section does not apply strictly to california. it applies to multiple states, in which there might me one that driving between cars on a motorcycle is against the law. (did you even open your mind to that posibility?)
So, the fact that Fumanchu, the CREATOR of the thread, has so cal written in his location field, this still means he can be anywhere in the west?
Btw you seem to be the only one having problems with this concept

Ok everyone, new rule of this thread, you must put CALIFORNIA in bigass letters at the end of your post
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You have a Florida licence plate and a military ID right? You should be fine, when I was stationed up there I had plenty of friends with modified cars, including things like tint in the windshield. Some would get pulled over for it, and when they put the (other tha CA) state plate together with a military ID they would be let go.

When I was platoon Sgt we did have a kid who was big into street racing. He was consistently doing stupid things (caught by SDPD street racing), at one point we did vehicle saftey inspections, and since any car that gets a base sticker for pendleton, with an out of state plate is supposed to get smogged before hand, I scraped off his sticker, and ordered him not to drive on base till it was replaced.
After he was caught twice driving on base he got busted down.


Originally Posted by El Nene 7
well heres my .2 cents

Fumanchu well i have heard some crazy stories and gossip from friends that i have met while i am stationed here in california. Mostly about getting pulled over and getting your car searched. In florida they dont do that, hell at all if anything all will do is give you a ticket for loud exhaust. You will have to worry about mainly the loud music getting you a ticket.

I have been building my car for a couple of months we are looking at some good numbers on the hp side. An i am afraid of driving it on the streets because getting pulled because my car looks like its modified. So i am shipping it back home as soon as i get it tuned for a break in its gone.

My question is if i drive normal obey the posted driving laws. Can a cop actually pull me over just because my car looks like its modified?

Wouldnt that be discrimination or no?

I was just wondering , no hating or picking your brain...i understand why you guys do what you do, but even for a person who does not street race and goes to tracks only, obeys the laws(on the street) and keeps a low profile...does it mean he has to be classified as a street racer because the car he has.

What about these muscle cars we see on the streets...they can have headers and other mods like non street legal carbs and hp numbers ranging between 400-700 on th streets. And they dont get even harrased. Is it discrimination or no.

Oh sorry if i dont make sense -Alex
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I thought this thread was to "ask a cop"?
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hmmm.. i live in utah, and california.. did YOU read that?
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****** 'A Dom. I woke up and am already 20 questions down. Give me a break guys, I have a day off today but don't want to sit here all day though.


Also, if you are not in California, quit posting questions. I have absolutely no idea about any other state.


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