Thanks, I will.

No, I wasn't aware, because it doesn't show, and furthermore, I'm not in the least impressed.

I know you're uneducated. You have a very small area of knowledge and think that qualifies you as being educated. You're nothing more than another Voc-tech monkey.

At least they have an excuse, since it's not their native language...

 

Which one do you suppose would move an FD faster?

 

LOL do you think I give a ****? My post are perfectly understandable. This is all I care about.

 

LoL that's what you think. Did you see how old that post was? I'll admit I wasn't as smart as I thought I was back then. My knowledge has vastly improved since then due to my own experiments. That's why I know the answer to the question that I asked you and why it's so important to me having the ability to design from scratch my very own 20b intake. At that time period I would have never been able to do the things that I'm capable of doing now. My results will speak for themselves.

 

You should. You're coming across as an idiot.

 

I honestly think I have more of a problem with that. I'm not perfect and don't try to be.

 

The Ls7. If that's what you want in your car, that's your choice.

 

Yes, ONE and ONLY win.

It's a pretty well known race, and they do publish the results...

Year - Car - Drivers

Circuit - 10.726 miles
1923 - Chenard & Walcker - A.Lagache, R.Leonard (F)
1924 - Bentley 3 litre - J.Duff, F.Clement (GB)
1925 - La Lorraine - G.de Courcelles, A.Rossignol (F)
1926 - La Lorraine - R.Bloch, A.Rossignol (F)
1927 - Bentley 3 litre - D.Benjafield, S.Davis (GB)
1928 - Bentley 4.5 - W.Barnato, B.Rubin (GB)

Circuit - 10.153 miles
1929 - Bentley 6 speed - W.Barnato, Sir H.Birkin (GB)
1930 - Bentley 6 speed - W.Barnato, G.Kidston (GB)
1931 - Alfa Romeo 8C2300 - E.Howe, Sir H.Birkin (GB)

Circuit - 8.475 miles
1932 - Alfa Romeo 8C2300 - R.Sommer, L.Chinetti (F,I)
1933 - Alfa Romeo 8C2300 - R.Sommer, T.Nuvolari (F,I)
1934 - Alfa Romeo 8C2300 - L.Chinetti, P.Etancelin (I,F)
1935 - Lagonda M45R - JS Hindmarsh, L.Fontes (GB,RA)
1936 - Race cancelled
1937 - Bugatti 57G - JP Wimille, R.Benoist (F)
1938 - Delahaye 135M - E.Chaboud, J.Tremoulet (F)
1939 - Bugatti 57G - JP Wimille, P.Veyron (F)
1940-48 - Race cancelled
1949 - Ferrari 166MM - L.Chinetti, Lord Selsdon (USA,GB)
1950 - Talbot-Lago - L.Rosier, JL Rosier (F)
1951 - Jaguar C-Type - P.Walker, P.Whitehead (GB)
1952 - Mercedes-B.300SL - H.Lang, F.Riess (D)
1953 - Jaguar C-Type - T.Rolt, D.Hamilton (GB)
1954 - Ferrari 375 - F.Gonzalez, M.Trintignant (RA,F)
1955 - Jaguar D-Type - M.Hawthorn, I.Bueb (GB)

Circuit - 8.364 miles
1956 - Jaguar D-Type - R.Flockhart, N.Sanderson (GB)
1957 - Jaguar D-Type - R.Flockhart, I.Bueb (GB)
1958 - Ferrari 250TR58 - O.Gendebien, P.Hill (B,USA)
1959 - Aston Martin DBR1 - C.Shelby, R.Salvadori (USA,GB)
1960 - Ferrari 250TR59/60 - O.Gendebien, P.Frere (B)
1961 - Ferrari 250TR61 - O.Gendebien, P.Hill (B,USA)
1962 - Ferrari 330LM/TR - O.Gendebien, P.Hill (B,USA)
1963 - Ferrari 250P - L.Scarfiotti, L.Bandini (I)
1964 - Ferrari 275P - J.Guichet, N.Vaccarella (F,I)
1965 - Ferrari 250LM - J.Rindt, M.Gregory (A,USA)
1966 - Ford GT40 Mk2 - C.Amon, B.McLaren (NZ)
1967 - Ford GT40 Mk4 - D.Gurney, AJ Foyt (USA)

Circuit - 8.369 miles
1968 - Ford GT40 - P.Rodriguez, L.Bianchi (Mex,B)
1969 - Ford GT40 - J.Ickx, J.Oliver (B,GB)
1970 - Porsche 917 - H.Herrmann, R.Attwood (D,GB)
1971 - Porsche 917 - H.Marko, G.van Lennep (A,NL)

Circuit - 8.475 miles
1972 - Matra-Simca MS670 - H.Pescarolo, G.Hill (F,GB)
1973 - Matra-Simca MS670B - H.Pescarolo, G.Larrousse (F)
1974 - Matra-Simca MS670B - H.Pescarolo, G.Larrousse (F)
1975 - Mirage-Ford M8 - J.Ickx, D.Bell (B,GB)
1976 - Porsche 936 - J.Ickx, G.van Lennep (B,NL)
1977 - Porsche 936 - J.Ickx, J.Barth, H.Haywood (B,D,USA)
1978 - Renault Alpine - JP Jaussaud, D.Pironi (F)

Circuit - 8.467 miles
1979 - Porsche 935 - K.Ludwig,B & D.Whittington (D,USA)
1980 - Rondeau Ford M379B - JP Jaussaud, J.Rondeau (F)
1981 - Porsche 936-81 - J.Ickx, D.Bell (B,GB)
1982 - Porsche 956-82 - J.Ickx, D.Bell (B,GB)
1983 - Porsche 956-83 - V.Schuppan, H.Haywood, A.Holbert (A,USA,USA)
1984 - Porsche 956B - K.Ludwig, H.Pescarolo (D,F)
1985 - Porsche 956B - K.Ludwig, P.Barilla, J.Winter (D,I,D)

Circuit - 8.51 miles
1986 - Porsche 962C - D.Bell, H.Stuck, A.Holbert (GB,D,USA)

Circuit - 8.45 miles
1987 - Porsche 962C - D.Bell, H.Stuck, A.Holbert (GB,D,USA)
1988 - Jaguar XJR-9LM - J.Dumfries, J.Lammers, A.Wallace (GB,NL,GB)
1989 - Sauber Mercedes C9 - J.Mass, S.Dickens, M.Reuter (D,S,D)

Circuit - 8.45 miles (with Mulsanne Chicanes)
1990 - Jaguar XJR-12 - M.Brundle, J.Nielsen, P.Cobb (GB,DK,USA)
1991 - Mazda 787B - J.Herbert, B.Gachot, V.Weidler (GB,B,D)
1992 - Peugeot 905 - D.Warwick, Y.Dalmas, M.Blundell (GB,F,GB)
1993 - Peugeot 905B - G.Brabham, E.Helary, C.Bouchut (AUS,F,F)
1994 - Dauer Porsche962LM - Y.Dalmas, H.Haywood, M.Baldi (F,USA,I)
1995 - McLaren F1 GTR - Y.Dalmas, JJ Lehto, M.Sekiya (F,SF,J)
1996 - Porsche WSC95 - D.Jones, M.Reuter, A.Wurz (USA,D,A)
1997 - Porsche WSC95 - M.Alboreto, S.Johansson, T.Kristensen (I,S,DK)
1998 - Porsche 911 GT1-98 - A.McNish, S.Ortelli, L.Aiello (GB,F,F)
1999 - BMW V12 LMR - Y.Dalmas, J.Winkelhock, P.Martini (F,D,I)
2000 - Audi A8 - F.Biela, T.Kristensen, E.Pirro (D,DK,I)
2001 - Audi R8 - F.Biela, T.Kristensen, E.Pirro (D,DK,I)

Circuit - 8.483 miles
2002 - Audi R8 - F.Biela, T.Kristensen, E.Pirro (D,DK,I)
2003 - Bentley EXP Speed8 - R.Capello, T.Kristensen, G.Smith (I,DK,GB)
2004 - Audi R8 - S.Ara, T.Kristensen, R.Capello (J,DK,I)
2005 - Audi R8 - JJ Lehto, T.Kristensen, M.Werber (SF,DK,D)
2006 - Audi R10 TDI - F.Biela, E.Pirro, M.Werner (D,I,D)

 

An what usefull info do you have to offer to this thread? You've done nothing but ride Jim's dick this whole time.

 

If you have a problem with that, you should probably tell keithrulz and Red Sidewinder to stop riding yours, don't you think?

 

This thread? Nothing. It was doomed from the start.

If you say so.

 

Of course you don't! You pop in and only comment about the point Jim has made about my English and then you made a comment about which one is faster. There's alot more going on here than just that. Since you odviously don't have anything usefull to say, why don't go back to the bench and wait till your coach calls for you.

 

For starters, your english is terrible. That's a fact, and there's no debating it.

Secondly, you can be impressed by HP/L all you want, but it's irrelevant. Available power to move the car is my primary concern. I'd rather have the motor making twice the power in the same relative footprint.


You mean like you revisiting tired old assumptions that have already been flogged to death?

That's the best you can come up with Shortbus?

 

I think that's about the 10th time you've misspelled obviously. That's not a typo, that's repetitive proof of your lack of intelligence.

Edit: I was wrong. I just did a quick search, and you have 32 posts that you've misspelled obviously as "odviously" in, but only four of them were in this thread.

 

Like how you ignored me last time. The 13B makes more hp/liter because it's smaller not better. Just like an ant has more strength per lb than a person. It's not a linear scale that gets to stay the same ratio as the engine gets larger.

At the same state of tune a smaller engine will make more hp/liter simply due to being SMALLER. Again, that's why a Honda 600 cc streetable street bike engine makes more hp liter than their own S2000 sports car. You'd think the same company of engineers could borrow the ability to make the same hp liter if that was so 1) easy and 2) important.

Hp/liter is simply a number that kids like you ********** to. It holds no meaning outside that until you get to racing classes that cap displacement (where more hp/liter MEANS more hp, period) or countries that tax displacement. It's still not impressive, by itself from a smaller engine.

 

See this is how you have a constructive debate. You made a lot of good points about your reasons for doing the swap while at the same time you didn't make any derogatory comments about the rotary. Much respect for your post.

 

What are you talking about?

 

You and Jim keep bringing that **** up not me. As I said before. I could give a ****. So move on.


To each his own! Again that's your choice (as I already said b4). You don't have to justify to me why you did your swap and I haven't judge anyone as of yet for doing such have I?




You really don't have a clue as to what I really know. I'm not going to waste my time going back and forward with you over nothing. The things I will engineer here in the stort future will prove my point. Just sit back and watch. Again, what contribution are you going to make to this thread other than points Jim as already made? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING NEW TO ADD, or are you just going to sit behind your computer and only babble about how terrible you think my English is?

 

What's really funny is you did a search just to find those spelling errors. I'm sure I have many more over the years. It makes no difference to me. As long as I've been on this forum, you and wingsfan are the only two that has beat this minor issue to death. Hmm I wonder why?

So far I have proved that the LS engine has more weight above the crank shaft. I have also proved the engine typically sits farther forward than stock. Both of which will change the handling dynamics of the FD Rx7 two continue to beat on is my spelling errors. Big ******* deal!

 

first of all why are you including dates that date back way farther then when they entered the lemans? that doesnt count! and secondly they cut short their success by disalowing the rotary to be used in lemans. So you can't say the engine is ****, or they wouldn't have won in the first place. and you were right so i apologize, they only won once, but they only took part in 90 and 91. The 1991 24 Hours of Le Mans would be the last time the 787B would compete in international motor racing. So they didnt have a chance to continue their campaign and claim more victories.

 

The main difference when comparing something small like the Honda bike engine and your typical piston automotive engine is the difference in internal rotating mass. So yes, I know the smaller engine will make more hp/per liter. This doesn't apply to rotary's because you are completely forgetting we also have larger displacment versions to compare with. It's not smaller when you compare the power differences of the larger displacment 20b and 4 rotor. That's what I've been trying to get people like you to understand. The 13b isn't the only engine you should be comparing to your v8's. If you compare them to an equal displacement rotary, you will see that they do extremely well in the power and reliabilty department. That's why I debate about the hp per liter.

 

So what if he did?

You don't seem to get it. This is the one sub-forum where making derogatory comments about the rotary is allowed. We're not coming into the 2nd/3rd gen. or 20B forums and starting **** by posting about how much rotary engines suck. YOU came in here to start some **** by arguing about how much they DON'T.

Look, if you can't take the ******* hint, I'll find a mod that will drive the point home for you. You don't belong in this forum. Leave.

https://www.rx7club.com/other-engine-conversions-non-v-8-118/everyone-read-other-engine-conversion-forum-rules-400819/

 

I like the HP/liter comparison between the NA motor and the twin turbo motor. That was very well-thought out and unbiased.

 

You expressed disbelief that they only won LeMans once. I proved that in the entire history of LeMans, they only won once. Are you really that stupid?

WTF?!?

Bullshit.

"People like to focus on the 1991 win as the high water mark and talk about how the rotary was banned from LeMans after the win, but Mazdas finished 15th in 1994, 7th in 1995, 25th in 1996, and 17th in 1997, all of which were 3- or 4-rotor powered cars. A Mazda also finished 4th in 1992... with a 3.5L V10."

Once again, you miss the point. If the rotary was so competitive that they had to ban it from competition, why did they only win once?

The 787B only competed in '90 and '91.

Did you think the 787B was the only rotary car ever to compete in LeMans? They just showed up and then got banned?

In 1990, the 767B finished 20th. Both 787Bs were DNF.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990_24_Hours_of_Le_Mans

In 1989, the 767Bs finished 7th, 9th, and 12th.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_24_Hours_of_Le_Mans

In 1988, a 757 finished 15th while the 767s finished 17th and 19th.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_24_Hours_of_Le_Mans

Do I need to go on? Do I really have to do all your ******* research for you?!? Jesus ******* Christ.

It's a goddamned shame you didn't have a chance to claim a brain while they were handing them out.

 

It's a relevant point. You're clearly inarticulate, which reflects on your overall intelligence, knowledge, and experience. Everyone makes typos. Not everyone has atrocious diction and grammar.

Do I really care that you're dumb? Not really. I've got no problem pointing it out to you though.

Where did I try to justify my swap to you? I couldn't care less what some parts-counter monkey thinks about my swap.

You also haven't seen me slagging the rotary. It's fine by me if you like the rotary, there's just no reason to spread misinformation to justify liking it.


We can conclude a great deal by your contributions to this thread. We know you're stupid, we're just not certain to what extent.

I'm on the edge of my seat with anticipation.

As I said before, this thread was doomed from the beginning. So no, I won't be contributing anything new to the conversation. Will you? Because the points you've brought up have been examined and beat to death a million times here.