No, the main difference is the size of the combustion chamber and how quickly you can fill and burn all the fuel in it. It's a lot easier to fill a very small combustion chamber and have complete combustion, even at high rpm. That's what gives small engines an exaggerated horsepower to liter output that is not possible with a much larger displacement engine.

You don't ******* learn.

It ABSOLUTELY applies to rotary engines, which is why the 15A and 21A prototypes were scrapped and Mazda chose to add more housings instead, creating the 13G, 20B, and 26B.

 

 

LS1 not having low end torque?



good god lol.

 

It took all of 2 seconds. Thanks for proving that you don't even know how to use the forum effectively, even after several years of posting.

 

And you just keep replying for eveyone else. I came here do defend some of the points that you made that I thought were incorrect. Now you wanna go tattle tell? Ohh I'm so scared. Grow up old man. This is a free forum that I have been apart for many years. Short of me being banded (which isn't likely to happen since I haven't called anyone a **** or some **** like that) there is nothing you can do about but cry like a little bitch.

 

The use of forced induction doesn't change the fact the engine is still making that power per liter.

 

You're not listening.

It wasn't necessary to defend anything, because this isn't the "let's prove the rotary is superior and talk people out of converting RX-7s" forum. This is the forum for people who want information about NON-ROTARY engine alternatives, and they're supposed to be able to get that information without being pestered by ********* like you.

Say it with me... YOU DON'T BELONG HERE.

 

Unless you're black, i will take you up on that bet...

Also, i know of a few off the top of my head 6 speed LS1 cars making near 1000rwhp on PUMP gas lasting for more than a season, even more than 1 year. Dare i mention the numbers on race fuel? FACT ther're more 1000+whp LS1's than there is 20b's making those ###'s, il BET ON THAT TOO!

 

Wow. I haven't even begun to read all of this ****. This blew my expectations way out of the water.

I'd say my work here is done.

Just a few thoughts:

- Your rear wheels don't exactly care what's making your horsepower and torque for them.

- Hp and torque are horsepower and torque - I've yet to see a dyno that was concerned with hp/liter or volumetric efficiency.

- If the weight balance changes, you can easily tune the difference in handling out with different spring rates. Even if the balance is 52/48 instead of the 'perfect' 50/50, the handling will still be very good and if you're a half decent driver you can change your technique to accomodate it. This should be obvious to 'tuners' but then that's probably as accurate a label as 'alternative' or 'extreme' came to become when they were overused in marketing.

- If the weight balance is so ******* important, someone should tell Honda, because the Civic and Integra have horrendous weight balance in comparison even with a 70's Camaro. Must be why they're not known for their handling, right?

- How many of you have even seen a three or four rotor motor? Just curious. I get passed on the street by LS-powered cars and trucks all day long.

- If you don't like V8s, don't build a car with one. If someone else does, shut the **** up - it's their car, time, effort, and money. If you want to prove yourself right, build your car and go out and conquer all of these 'dinosaurs' out there running V8s. I tend to see more talk than anything when it comes to this - where are all of the 400+ hp daily driven unbreakable RX7s I keep hearing about? Got some dyno sheets and timeslips?

- I find the 'comparisons' funny. If comparing a V8 with big displacement is 'unfair' to smaller motors, then what the **** do you call DOHC heads and Turbochargers? You import guys should really stop embarrassing yourselves and just 'run what you brung' - I find it hilarious how SCC will devote issue after issue to the merits of the 'superior' Japanese hardware and then do things like exclude OHV engines and flat sixes - so that Vettes, Vipers, and Porsches didn't show up to their little 'hot lap' party and embarass them.

- V8s and big engines suck, remember that. That's why the new NSX is a ten cylinder, and all of the new Toyota/Lexus performance cars are V8s or V10s, why every engine produced by every japanese firm has grown by about a half liter (the new GT-R is running a 3.8l TT V6, vs the previous 2.6l TT I6), and even the M3 has - gasp! - a V8. It's ok when the V8 costs more than a new SE-R or Si, though, right? 400hp for around $5k - who wants that?

For all of the intelligent people who attempted to contribute to this discussion, my condolances. Just remember the wisdom of George Carlin: "Think about how stupid the average person is. Now realise that half of the people out there are dumber than that!"

To all of you puppets who fell for the most telegraphed ruse ever, get a vasectomy before it's too late! "Somewhere, right now, stupid people are breeding...:

 

Obviously based on your 1st contribution to this thread.



That's because your like a buzzard and will only feed when someone else makes the so called kill. It's so easy to come in at the last minuet and start your whole converstion over something that's not even related to the thread topic. You have proven to have a one track mind.

 

Go back and read my 1st two reply comments in this thread to you, then you tell me how was it my intension to prove the rotary was superior? Stop putting words in my mouth.

 

That's because I have a life away from this forum. U have 3 times the post that I do, yet you only been here 1 yr longer. Thx for proving u have no life. And yes I'm using a texting format. Nice way to spend your retirement over the internet while arguing with people half your age.

 

Hey, a spade is a spade.



Here you go, this will help. It looks like they offer both a GED course and ESL. One or the other (or both) is likely the issue here.

http://www.odessa.edu/catalog/ce_schedule/adult.pdf

In the meantime why don't you get yourself a ******* spellchecker. Your rampant mangling of the written word is giving me a headache.

Right. I'll compare my ability to use my mind to yours any day.

 

Hey genius, he's only ~5-6 years older than you. Math's a real strong suit for you too huh?

 

I'm sure your right but you were still a fool to think a 20b isn't capable of making serious power. Anywyas, what does race have to do with it? I was just showing you how ridiculous you sound when you were being so cocky about how your car would hand my 20b it's ***.

 

Thx I know I am.


Well I guess I'm mistaken from what I thought his age was a few years ago (it's no longer posted). I don't know him personaly like you do. So can you tell me what it's like to wipe this ***? Your nothing but his loyal follower.

Real men have their own opinions and don't need to hang on the coat tails of someone else.

 

That's rich given your demonstrable illiteracy.


Is a lear a long time?

Having never seen your *** I couldn't really tell you. Words have meaning dipshit. You should chose them carefully.

You're fuckwad. You're. It's a contraction for you are you moron. Your is possessive.

So because I concur with Jim that you're a moron I'm riding his coattails?

 

Well the fact that you don't see anything wrong with this argument is stupid in itself, since forced induction is THE ANSWER to big motor power on a budget.

Besides that, HP/Liter is a Honda defense. "Waah, look how much my 2-liter makes! It's clearly the better engine!" Seriously, when was the last time you saw MPG on your timeslip? It doesn't mena **** for performance. Besides that, the HP/Liter defense is usually a display of efficiency. Go ahead and try to convince me how efficient rotaries are. No, really, you're full of great ideas...

 

Because black folk tend to have larger dicks, if you're white, i will bet my dick is larger/longer. Just making a fair gamble...

Yes here in IL we whip out our dicks and bet, true story, haha. PLus im polish and german, i have girth and length.

If you find this ridiculous, rather than funny, maybe you're too old!!!

 

So I should ignore all your posts about the rotary having a lower CoG and higher output per liter, even with adjusted displacement?

Ah, I see. So you're the only one who does?

Quite a bit longer, actually, but apparently you weren't around when the forum got hacked and everyone's join date was reset.

Regardless, with your 2/3rds fewer posts, what have you accomplished? Do you have any technical posts in the archives that I'm not aware of? Have you designed any parts for RX-7s and sold hundreds of them? Or are you one of those people who, even after 3,000+ posts, others still don't listen to because you're just as full of **** as the day you joined?

You're only five years younger than I am, genius...

 

"You are fuckwad"? Hmmm I think you need a lesson yourself. It's You're a fuckwad. You have absolutely not life if all you did was to come on here and critique me on my spelling. Now the question is, should I go all postal on u? Naaaa, I got better things to discuss.

You're. It's a contraction for you are you moron. Your is possessive.

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And your point? I know the difference between your and you are (your're). I just didn't type it that way. I can't help it if u are so hard up for me to use it properly.
Only nerds nit pick at stupid **** like this.

 

Yes I jknow the difference.


Watch yourself, Jim and winglet are going to dog you over this.



That's not why I'm here.

 

LOL, leave that discussion for another thread.

 

Those comments of mine don't prove that the rotary is superior. Your thinking about what I said wayyyyy too hard.


When compared to u!

Everyone starts somewhere. As I said, you will soon find out when my project is complete. I start my threads when my projects are complete, not when they are in the developing stages like you. It leaves the forum less cluttered with unfinished bullshit..

Great so why did u hide your age?

 

Your 13b only lasted 108k miles? Hell, I boosted my Ls1 Corvette at 108k miles! I'm expecting at LEAST 200k miles out of it. Stock LS1's are pushing 300k miles and show almost no wear when opened up! You must be really proud of that 100k mark.