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03-29-06, 08:20 AM
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Here's a prime example of why some of us run Fords...
http://www.grmotorsports.com/board/v...ic.php?t=16182
With this engine I could do a complete FB/FC swap for under $1000 in parts.
http://www.grmotorsports.com/board/v...ic.php?t=16182
With this engine I could do a complete FB/FC swap for under $1000 in parts.
03-30-06, 09:14 AM
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Ls7 is teh best motar im gonna put one in my camaro cause my ls1 gonna blow up soon sprayin all the nos i got. peace bros.
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Here's a prime example of why some of us run Fords...
http://www.grmotorsports.com/board/...pic.php?t=16182
With this engine I could do a complete FB/FC swap for under $1000 in parts.
http://www.grmotorsports.com/board/...pic.php?t=16182
With this engine I could do a complete FB/FC swap for under $1000 in parts.
04-03-06, 02:44 PM
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Ok because I just said something and walked away in the beginning I will come back and correct everything people have said wrong.
6.0 is very efficent for its size, and is capable of making 700hp or more without opening the engine. Basically a bigger turbo, bigger injectors, better ECU tune, and a huge intercooler you could hit that make in a good tune. Seeing how all diesels have to run 22:1 compression or better to run, they are built like a tank from the factory, ive seen stock rods and cranks handles 800hp but most of the time they lean out and you get a nice lil hole inb the top of your piston.
Now I was just throwing out the Duramax for the single reason that most people know what it is.
If I was accually going to do the swap, it would have to be a 4-53 series Detroit. Lil bitches got some RPM to them and they have more than enough power for a passenger car. Well that is if you think like me. they only make 140hp, but somewhere in the nieghbor hood of 500ftlbs not exactly sure of the number though. Complete engine wieghs in at 1100 thats with front and rear plates bellhousing, turbo and SC, and everything needed to run. And that fairly light for something made completely of iron.
Now if you bump up the boost with supporting mods you could make like 350hp or something like that easy. but your tourqe would be ZOMG. To bad the motor is to tall to fit in a fc. As far as gearing with 6:11 gears top speed would only be 45-55MPH, now throw a 5sp, and some rocket gears behind it and you'll move like a ****. RPM cap would be like 2500RMP though.
As far as a gas motor. Well its a basically up to what you want to fool with. As far as V8s I would have to go with a SBC. But if it was any engine it wouold be a Vauxhaul 2.3 DOHC that makes 250hp out of the box. I picked mine up for a project car I am working on for 800$, and its in the shop getting rebuilt right now, and I hope they dont **** it up.
6.0 is very efficent for its size, and is capable of making 700hp or more without opening the engine. Basically a bigger turbo, bigger injectors, better ECU tune, and a huge intercooler you could hit that make in a good tune. Seeing how all diesels have to run 22:1 compression or better to run, they are built like a tank from the factory, ive seen stock rods and cranks handles 800hp but most of the time they lean out and you get a nice lil hole inb the top of your piston.
Now I was just throwing out the Duramax for the single reason that most people know what it is.
If I was accually going to do the swap, it would have to be a 4-53 series Detroit. Lil bitches got some RPM to them and they have more than enough power for a passenger car. Well that is if you think like me. they only make 140hp, but somewhere in the nieghbor hood of 500ftlbs not exactly sure of the number though. Complete engine wieghs in at 1100 thats with front and rear plates bellhousing, turbo and SC, and everything needed to run. And that fairly light for something made completely of iron.
Now if you bump up the boost with supporting mods you could make like 350hp or something like that easy. but your tourqe would be ZOMG. To bad the motor is to tall to fit in a fc. As far as gearing with 6:11 gears top speed would only be 45-55MPH, now throw a 5sp, and some rocket gears behind it and you'll move like a ****. RPM cap would be like 2500RMP though.
As far as a gas motor. Well its a basically up to what you want to fool with. As far as V8s I would have to go with a SBC. But if it was any engine it wouold be a Vauxhaul 2.3 DOHC that makes 250hp out of the box. I picked mine up for a project car I am working on for 800$, and its in the shop getting rebuilt right now, and I hope they dont **** it up.
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this is a dude from www.torquecentral.com ......... he has efi 302 in his vert it fits under the stock hood ..... useing grannys 302 kit with 1/2 " spacers with the late model 302 intake off a t-bird or 94-95 mustang.... i also think the T2 hood has more clearance the the NA hood.
hers the thread were he talks about it http://www.torquecentral.com/showthread.php?t=35286
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i would tend to agree the LS1 makes the most power at the best efficiency.. and there is a huge aftermarket for them and lots of good tuning ability out there. lots of good shops out there. so based on that you cant go wrong with a LSx swap.
cam, some bolt ons and a 150shot with good tune will make 550rwhp and make a 3400lb car trap 130mph and run 10's. in a small mazda thats just wicked fast. your talkin high 9's if you hook a great 60 foot and at around 135-137 mph traps. 200shot is more like 600whp and approachin 140mph traps in a 2700lb car.
and yes the Ls2 has Ls6 heads but with different valvetrain components.
another good option for a torquey fun street car that will run decent times is a 350 TPI (tuned port injection) motor out of the late 80's early 90's vettes/camaros/trans ams. stock rated at 240hp and 340 tq. full bolt ons/exhaust will push over 300 hp and 400tq on motor. my car has just exhaust and is trapping 100mph and doing 13.8's on street tires. the bottom low end torque is unreal! very strong. the car probly weighs around 3500lbs. you can pick up TPI setups for somewhat cheap nowadays. the only problem is TPI is a long runner design which makes torque and doesnt make alot of hp. 350TPI runs out of breath at 4500rpms.. so its a low rpm street torquey motor. bolt ons can see 5000rpms and still make power..but thats about it.
but the 5.0 is great too. plenty of guys in 5.0 mustangs doing high 12's to 13.1's at 105mph or so with just gears/bolt ons/exhaust. not even touchin the internals or heads/cam. 5.0 fords respond well to mods, and probly respond better to bolt ons powerwise than the 350 TPI motors.. its close tho since the 350 is bigger it has the torque edge. but the 5.0 is cheap and the aftermarket is HUGE.
i would say LSx is best overall choice when it comes to motors that have power, lightweight, and efficiency all in one package.
next would be a toss up between the 350 TPI motors and 5.0 ford mustang motors. with the edge to the 5.0. thats if you stay fuel injected.
go carbed and its all small block chevy. get a 406 small block with a solid roller and make 500rwhp n/a LOL
cam, some bolt ons and a 150shot with good tune will make 550rwhp and make a 3400lb car trap 130mph and run 10's. in a small mazda thats just wicked fast. your talkin high 9's if you hook a great 60 foot and at around 135-137 mph traps. 200shot is more like 600whp and approachin 140mph traps in a 2700lb car.
and yes the Ls2 has Ls6 heads but with different valvetrain components.
another good option for a torquey fun street car that will run decent times is a 350 TPI (tuned port injection) motor out of the late 80's early 90's vettes/camaros/trans ams. stock rated at 240hp and 340 tq. full bolt ons/exhaust will push over 300 hp and 400tq on motor. my car has just exhaust and is trapping 100mph and doing 13.8's on street tires. the bottom low end torque is unreal! very strong. the car probly weighs around 3500lbs. you can pick up TPI setups for somewhat cheap nowadays. the only problem is TPI is a long runner design which makes torque and doesnt make alot of hp. 350TPI runs out of breath at 4500rpms.. so its a low rpm street torquey motor. bolt ons can see 5000rpms and still make power..but thats about it.
but the 5.0 is great too. plenty of guys in 5.0 mustangs doing high 12's to 13.1's at 105mph or so with just gears/bolt ons/exhaust. not even touchin the internals or heads/cam. 5.0 fords respond well to mods, and probly respond better to bolt ons powerwise than the 350 TPI motors.. its close tho since the 350 is bigger it has the torque edge. but the 5.0 is cheap and the aftermarket is HUGE.
i would say LSx is best overall choice when it comes to motors that have power, lightweight, and efficiency all in one package.
next would be a toss up between the 350 TPI motors and 5.0 ford mustang motors. with the edge to the 5.0. thats if you stay fuel injected.
go carbed and its all small block chevy. get a 406 small block with a solid roller and make 500rwhp n/a LOL
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05-16-06, 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by bigj50
this is a dude from www.torquecentral.com ......... he has efi 302 in his vert it fits under the stock hood ..... useing grannys 302 kit with 1/2 " spacers with the late model 302 intake off a t-bird or 94-95 mustang.... i also think the T2 hood has more clearance the the NA hood.
hers the thread were he talks about it http://www.torquecentral.com/showthread.php?t=35286
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Originally Posted by Orr89rocz
A lot of stuff, which I won't quote for brevity...
The LS1 is hard to beat. I'm not a GM fan but that is a DAMN good engine.
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