Anti-LS1 thread
08-09-09, 02:14 AM
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Anti-LS1 thread
Everywhere I go there is some bitch telling me why swapping out the 13Bs is a good thing. Just thought I would get some opinions. Would you do it if you could, why/why not. How many miles do you have on your car?
08-09-09, 03:25 AM
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Just politely tell them that you don't want an LS1 in your car. Getting all mad about it just adds fuel to the fire.
Any thread on this subject just turns into a huge clusterfuck of bitching, it usually sounds something like this:
"V8s suck!"
"Rotaries suck!"
"You ruined the weight distribution!"
"I haz torque!"
"Rotaries are gay and unreliable!"
"V8s are redneck!"
"You took away the soul!"
"It's a real car now!"
That's all this thread will be. In fact, if you're impatient, here you go. An active, ongoing bitchbest on the same subject: https://www.rx7club.com/lounge-192/why-do-you-dislike-v8-engines-rx7s-845811/
If you're new, it's fun to throw a few jabs in, but once you've been around rotaries for a while, the constant bitching from both sides gets ******* annoying. For the record, I love rotaries and would never put a V8 in my car, but this is way old.
Any thread on this subject just turns into a huge clusterfuck of bitching, it usually sounds something like this:
"V8s suck!"
"Rotaries suck!"
"You ruined the weight distribution!"
"I haz torque!"
"Rotaries are gay and unreliable!"
"V8s are redneck!"
"You took away the soul!"
"It's a real car now!"
That's all this thread will be. In fact, if you're impatient, here you go. An active, ongoing bitchbest on the same subject: https://www.rx7club.com/lounge-192/why-do-you-dislike-v8-engines-rx7s-845811/
If you're new, it's fun to throw a few jabs in, but once you've been around rotaries for a while, the constant bitching from both sides gets ******* annoying. For the record, I love rotaries and would never put a V8 in my car, but this is way old.
08-09-09, 04:35 AM
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Rx7 = Rotary Project number 7...
meaning, the Rx7 was built around the motor.
Most cars are built and then the company puts a few different motor options in. The Rx7 was built for the sole purpose of the rotary engine. Nothing else belongs in it...
But in the spirit of hot rodding. Any motor and go into any car. Its all in the choice of what you like... Its a never ending debate.
meaning, the Rx7 was built around the motor.
Most cars are built and then the company puts a few different motor options in. The Rx7 was built for the sole purpose of the rotary engine. Nothing else belongs in it...
But in the spirit of hot rodding. Any motor and go into any car. Its all in the choice of what you like... Its a never ending debate.
08-09-09, 05:56 AM
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if you want a cheap 12 sec car you can swap to a LS1 if your not into going that fast..pour just as much money and you'll barely have a 12 sec car (but then again your doing this with a 5 speed gear box...unlike a LS1 which has 6 :O )
trust me I used to be anti-v8 but then i took a ride in my friends that fc that has a LS6 in it...made my jaw drop and put a smile on my face (and made me think about rebuilding or just swaping to a v8) and to tell you the truth..it didn't handle that bad (nothing some slicks won't fix)
trust me I used to be anti-v8 but then i took a ride in my friends that fc that has a LS6 in it...made my jaw drop and put a smile on my face (and made me think about rebuilding or just swaping to a v8) and to tell you the truth..it didn't handle that bad (nothing some slicks won't fix)
08-09-09, 10:15 AM
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My step brother is trying to get me to go V8 but i still wont do it. I think about it every now and then for my vert. But then i remember a 20b and then i decide to stay rotary. Not to mention I think about my old Trans Am that had a v8 in it and all the **** that goes wrong with a piston motor and that really makes me stay rotary.
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08-09-09, 12:09 PM
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I really dont see why this "other engine conversions" forum belongs on this site. For every post that has something helpful to say on the subject there are 20 that are arguing against it. You say a V8 destroys the soul, the essence of the car yet you'll cheer someone who has a butt ugly body kit like the Veilside Viper.
I have a 93 Black Base PEP. I bought it as a roller w/ 45K miles. That's pretty low mileage to have a destroyed motor, is it not ? I sold the 5-speed to a forum member here, as-is for $400. I had no way of testing it. Turns out it had the typical 5th geer grind. I understand the 13B is a wonderous piece of engineering when maintained by a knowlegable owner but would anyone here say the 5-speed transmission that came with it is better than a t56 ?
I find this site to be a great resource when I have to work on my chassis or interior. When it comes to my engine, I keep my mouth shut because I already know what reaction I'll get. The only reason a rotary owner posts in here is to hate on swappers. We get it. I wish this part of the forum would just go away.
I have a 93 Black Base PEP. I bought it as a roller w/ 45K miles. That's pretty low mileage to have a destroyed motor, is it not ? I sold the 5-speed to a forum member here, as-is for $400. I had no way of testing it. Turns out it had the typical 5th geer grind. I understand the 13B is a wonderous piece of engineering when maintained by a knowlegable owner but would anyone here say the 5-speed transmission that came with it is better than a t56 ?
I find this site to be a great resource when I have to work on my chassis or interior. When it comes to my engine, I keep my mouth shut because I already know what reaction I'll get. The only reason a rotary owner posts in here is to hate on swappers. We get it. I wish this part of the forum would just go away.
08-09-09, 04:32 PM
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i know why im doing my ls2 swap, 110k miles, 2 rotarys later, i wanted something that can put down 500 hp fairly easily and cheaply, and still get decent MPG as well as be reliable and fun to drive. without having to worry about the headaches of maintaining a rotary. dont get me wrong i love the idea of the rotary, but for a car i drive every day it just isnt practical, one day id love to have a built 13b or 20b but that will be in a track only or weekend car. and the LS motors dont ruin the handling, simply because they dont add really any weight, and most of the time the battery goes to the back so it actually improves ballance. just my 2 cents
08-09-09, 04:53 PM
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Dude you are doing this for all the wrong reasons. Just ask frijolee . He is a big advocate for the v8 guys. The ls1 is NOT more reliable than a rotary. Frijolee (Joel ) and I have proven that. If you do this, Its because you like the v8 with the Japans chassis.
Thanks Robert
Thanks Robert
08-09-09, 05:24 PM
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Rx7 = Rotary Project number 7...
meaning, the Rx7 was built around the motor.
Most cars are built and then the company puts a few different motor options in. The Rx7 was built for the sole purpose of the rotary engine. Nothing else belongs in it...
But in the spirit of hot rodding. Any motor and go into any car. Its all in the choice of what you like... Its a never ending debate.
meaning, the Rx7 was built around the motor.
Most cars are built and then the company puts a few different motor options in. The Rx7 was built for the sole purpose of the rotary engine. Nothing else belongs in it...
But in the spirit of hot rodding. Any motor and go into any car. Its all in the choice of what you like... Its a never ending debate.
Dude you are doing this for all the wrong reasons. Just ask frijolee . He is a big advocate for the v8 guys. The ls1 is NOT more reliable than a rotary. Frijolee (Joel ) and I have proven that. If you do this, Its because you like the v8 with the Japans chassis.
Thanks Robert
Thanks Robert
I just dont' get why if you want the low torque and characteristics of a v8 and that's your thing, then why don't you just go out and buy a car that was designed for it like a camaro, corvette, mustang, the list goes on? That would be the cheapest way to get into a fast v8. You can buy modded used american v8 cars all day long these days for cheap. I guess it all boils down to whatever floats your boat and makes you happy.
08-09-09, 07:30 PM
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I just dont' get why if you want the low torque and characteristics of a v8 and that's your thing, then why don't you just go out and buy a car that was designed for it like a camaro, corvette, mustang,
Here we are in the "other engine conversions" forum and the name of this thread is "Anti-LS1 thread". The purpose of this thread is for everyone who has never ridden in a LS1 powered RX7 to hate on those of us who have these cars. We are the "some bitches" who ruin "Your" RX7s.
I guess if I had a AC Cobra I should take out that Ford 289 and put in the 4 cylinder that the AC Bristol came with because it is what belongs in there.
08-09-09, 09:48 PM
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Dude you are doing this for all the wrong reasons. Just ask frijolee . He is a big advocate for the v8 guys. The ls1 is NOT more reliable than a rotary. Frijolee (Joel ) and I have proven that. If you do this, Its because you like the v8 with the Japans chassis.
Thanks Robert
Thanks Robert
08-09-09, 10:15 PM
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08-09-09, 11:15 PM
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Because the FD is one of the finest handling chassis ever made. It's also much lighter than those cars you mention. Unlike the original posters FC, which is quite reliable, there are many FD's in need of engines.
Here we are in the "other engine conversions" forum and the name of this thread is "Anti-LS1 thread". The purpose of this thread is for everyone who has never ridden in a LS1 powered RX7 to hate on those of us who have these cars. We are the "some bitches" who ruin "Your" RX7s.
I guess if I had a AC Cobra I should take out that Ford 289 and put in the 4 cylinder that the AC Bristol came with because it is what belongs in there.
Here we are in the "other engine conversions" forum and the name of this thread is "Anti-LS1 thread". The purpose of this thread is for everyone who has never ridden in a LS1 powered RX7 to hate on those of us who have these cars. We are the "some bitches" who ruin "Your" RX7s.
I guess if I had a AC Cobra I should take out that Ford 289 and put in the 4 cylinder that the AC Bristol came with because it is what belongs in there.
If your Puerto Rican, then you can put a rotary in anything and if your a redneck then you can put a v8 in anything. If your neither then don't go there.
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i used the refference to the "boosted 500hp rotary" because at the same n/a 500hp an ls2 will last that 150k miles, point being with an LS you can get the same HP much easier, and have it be much more reliable for the simple fact that it isnt reliant on a turbo to achieve those numbers and that therefore increases its lifespan
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oh and about that link, thats not a good example of an ls1's reliability, no car will withstand oil starvation, if it was built for the track and any kind of seriouse g forces then it woulda had a dry sump, and it wouldnt have been starved for oil.