Black Sunshine hitting the Dyno
01-06-09, 07:50 AM
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$2-4k - Rebuilt motor with large street port
$1000 -EMS
$500 -Injectors
$1000 turbo/maybe manifold
==300+ reliable hp.
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$2-3K LS1
$1500 T56 tranny
$1k conversion parts
== 300 reliable Hp.
It's all in what you do and what you consider reliable.
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$1000 -EMS
$500 -Injectors
$1000 turbo/maybe manifold
==300+ reliable hp.
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$2-3K LS1
$1500 T56 tranny
$1k conversion parts
== 300 reliable Hp.
It's all in what you do and what you consider reliable.
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01-06-09, 09:26 AM
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you can doubt the gas mileage all you want but the truth of it happened, wether you like it or not is up to you. Do u honestly believe i drive this all year round are you numb in the head, this is just my fun/project car, I have other vehicles for that stuff so rain and snow dont bother it to much. Why would i want an escort when i have an RX7 (which is a better platform), in fact y dont you go buy a probe and drop your wankel into that. Why did you post that dyno i could care less to see it. Also onto note it was 4k for the engine tranny and CPU. One thing Ill say is how funny it is to see most of the rotory boys get torn apart and start whining when they see a V8 in an Rx7,
At least Digi knows the thought behind the V8RX7.
Thanks Dawicka, hey what did you think of the message i sent ya bout the headlights
At least Digi knows the thought behind the V8RX7.
Thanks Dawicka, hey what did you think of the message i sent ya bout the headlights
01-06-09, 05:41 PM
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01-06-09, 09:42 PM
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Lets review:
And I already blew this lame argument out of the water:
So you really did come here to post how wonderful the V8 swap really is and how us guys with rotary motors have no torque and no reliability neither if which is remotely true.
I have never said anything negative about V8 swaps, in fact i have friends that drive them, but you just wanted to come in here and start acting like your car is the greatest thing since sliced bread and put down rotaries. They got a word for people like that:
Troll
Rotaries are fun lil engines and impressive for there size, but an RX-7 with a just seems more complete of a car
on the reliability issue rotories do have more problems, just look how many people post about how there car is almost always on repair, ya there probably are some that are good but how many are there really???
he engine design is that rotaries cant produce as much torque compared to the v8 cause that is what you need.
I have never said anything negative about V8 swaps, in fact i have friends that drive them, but you just wanted to come in here and start acting like your car is the greatest thing since sliced bread and put down rotaries. They got a word for people like that:
Troll
01-06-09, 10:02 PM
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Thank you imatuner for being brave enough to post up your dyno and pics even though the power isn't E-***** enhancing in magnitude.
That is a lot of power in an FC and I am certain fun to drive.
Looks good in the pictures as well, V8 fits in that engine bay quite well.
That is a lot of power in an FC and I am certain fun to drive.
Looks good in the pictures as well, V8 fits in that engine bay quite well.
01-07-09, 12:02 AM
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hey J if your going to quote me, quote the whole thing instead of bits and pieces. The text that J failed to post was the fact i was saying the Rx7 needs more torque in which the V8 supplies and makes feel more like a sports car, but i also went on to mention that if i were Mazda that i would of put the Bigger 4 Rotar engine in to compensate for the lack of that cause the engine is alot better than the 2/3 rotary engines in which produces less power and torque. Being the fact it would have those 2 capabilities cause of it being BIGGER, and having them would make it more of sports car. but since the 4 rotar is expensive and harder to find/build, this is and easier option. So get it right.
and no if anybody is the troll here its you simply by coming in to my thread and debating consistently with your lil comments inwhich comments are fine if they are related to the topic but your comments just go on round about on how you think cars should be built, and well thats just dumb. If you want a car to be built a certain way than start your own website, called
www.dirtyratrx7mywayracing.com
but until than dont expect every build to be like yours specially on a public forum
and no if anybody is the troll here its you simply by coming in to my thread and debating consistently with your lil comments inwhich comments are fine if they are related to the topic but your comments just go on round about on how you think cars should be built, and well thats just dumb. If you want a car to be built a certain way than start your own website, called
www.dirtyratrx7mywayracing.com
but until than dont expect every build to be like yours specially on a public forum
if i had the later version of the LS1 ya it would of made more power, cause then i would have diff heads (241's) and intake (LS6) which are stock on later model of the LS1 which would be 02 series engine, also i think my exhaust is holding me back some, i seen 02 series LS1 with the heads and intake and headers and full exhaust do 330ish to 340ish HP, so its right about on for the numbers
for the T56 tranny me i love it, nice solid shift, with the 4.10 rear end from the turbo to it likes to drive around in 3rd and 4th gear pending on speed and its punchy in a fun way. a while back i had a previous gen RX7 N/A, it was fun dont get me wrong im not hating, Rotaries are fun lil engines and impressive for there size, but an RX-7 with a just seems more complete of a car, if i was in the Mazda Design team if i were to put the rotary in something i would of left them (smaller engines) in the smaller cars and put the bigger rotory engines in the RX7 to give it more torque cause to me this style car needs more and would make a real nice setup for driving, and since the 4 Rotars are expensive, this is a cheaper/easier/less maintenanced way of getting that setup.
for the T56 tranny me i love it, nice solid shift, with the 4.10 rear end from the turbo to it likes to drive around in 3rd and 4th gear pending on speed and its punchy in a fun way. a while back i had a previous gen RX7 N/A, it was fun dont get me wrong im not hating, Rotaries are fun lil engines and impressive for there size, but an RX-7 with a just seems more complete of a car, if i was in the Mazda Design team if i were to put the rotary in something i would of left them (smaller engines) in the smaller cars and put the bigger rotory engines in the RX7 to give it more torque cause to me this style car needs more and would make a real nice setup for driving, and since the 4 Rotars are expensive, this is a cheaper/easier/less maintenanced way of getting that setup.
01-07-09, 12:11 AM
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Thanks for the comment Blue
no prob there blue gotta start somewhere. it is fun to drive though even the way it is. it is fairly tight in there though but not going to complain. the funny thing is when people look clos and see how tight it is kinda surprises them. the first thing they say is wow that fit in there. lol
but its got a long way to go from here but it will eventually get done, its far from complete.
How far are you on your project, i would like to see it, any info
no prob there blue gotta start somewhere. it is fun to drive though even the way it is. it is fairly tight in there though but not going to complain. the funny thing is when people look clos and see how tight it is kinda surprises them. the first thing they say is wow that fit in there. lol
but its got a long way to go from here but it will eventually get done, its far from complete.
How far are you on your project, i would like to see it, any info
01-14-09, 08:46 PM
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And my A$$ your buddy got 27mpg in his vette on a roadtrip. From the factory, their window sticker for gas mileage is only 26 and those things are never right. I'm willing to bet 21mpg highway tops.
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01-14-09, 08:50 PM
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'Grats on completing the swap imatuner, numbers look spot on stock LS1 numbers. I've been thinking about doing the exact same thing to my '88. I'm stuck deciding between that or a S4 turbo swap.
01-14-09, 08:59 PM
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And my A$$ your buddy got 27mpg in his vette on a roadtrip. From the factory, their window sticker for gas mileage is only 26 and those things are never right. I'm willing to bet 21mpg highway tops.
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Damn, good catch TGK i missed that one. I get 25 mpg at 77 mph on the highway with cruise and A/C using 60lb injectors.
Originally Posted by g14novak
And my A$$ your buddy got 27mpg in his vette on a roadtrip. From the factory, their window sticker for gas mileage is only 26 and those things are never right. I'm willing to bet 21mpg highway tops.
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Damn, good catch TGK i missed that one. I get 25 mpg at 77 mph on the highway with cruise and A/C using 60lb injectors.
01-15-09, 09:38 PM
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The ls1 is an incredible engine. It's very, very easy to make stupid amounts of power with that engine. Kudos to the OP for doing what they wanted, it's certainly going to be a fun car.
01-30-11, 12:31 PM
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I sort of understand what your talking about... but a 3 rotor will match the torque no problem. Hell if I push my 13b re a little I will beat what you posted on torque... and rape you in horse power. J rat is right, a single turbo rx7 can do what you posted for almost no money if you know what your doing
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Hell the owner of my car before me added 160hp for 3 grand... given he did get a good deal but not yhe point at all.... point is if you want an 8. Buy a car with it already in it.... I mean your talk about the good platform rx7s have but did you forget the price pf suspension parts and such? Much more expensive then you tradtional north american counterpart.... if you want to bash on the torque issue then you sir, are lame.. if you think its smoother, then your an idiot. If you think your faster for a "cheaper more reliable price", your an *******. I respect your hard work on the swap, but your mentality behind it is well...mental.
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Hell the owner of my car before me added 160hp for 3 grand... given he did get a good deal but not yhe point at all.... point is if you want an 8. Buy a car with it already in it.... I mean your talk about the good platform rx7s have but did you forget the price pf suspension parts and such? Much more expensive then you tradtional north american counterpart.... if you want to bash on the torque issue then you sir, are lame.. if you think its smoother, then your an idiot. If you think your faster for a "cheaper more reliable price", your an *******. I respect your hard work on the swap, but your mentality behind it is well...mental.
01-30-11, 08:21 PM
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Cool story bro. You mad or something? What did he do to you where you need to call him names because he shared his dyno? lol You seem mad. I have never really seen a mad Canadian, but you seem really mad.
01-31-11, 05:59 AM
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Heh yeah I was a littlw ticked off.. I ran out of moosehead lager! I still think he had the wrong mentality behind it tho, ill yhink about deleting the harsh namecalling if I get to a pc anytime soon, but I still think he has the wromg mentality behind this.
01-31-11, 07:23 AM
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Seem like my edit button is broken, so I guess I will have to keep my harsh comments, but say thats its not personal, just my opinion, and often the way i rant about things. Although he did bash j Rat a bit, and I enjoy reading his posts and respect the way he builds a car, maybe I was ticked off about that too... but what is most probable is the fact I ran out of moosehead and there was no real hockey on the tv this weekend, just crappy all star nonsence....
So that is how a Canadian can get angry, let the stereotype commenting begin!
... haha seriously though I did say I respected his hard work into the project, I know it can not have easy, but I dont like his reasoning, to each their own.
So that is how a Canadian can get angry, let the stereotype commenting begin!
... haha seriously though I did say I respected his hard work into the project, I know it can not have easy, but I dont like his reasoning, to each their own.