Time Slips and Dyno Section is for posting 1/4 mile time slips and dyno graphs

Finally! BNR Stage 3 high boost dyno results

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-16-05, 02:25 PM
  #76  
Original Gangster/Rotary!


Thread Starter
iTrader: (213)
 
GoodfellaFD3S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: FL-->NJ/NYC again!
Posts: 30,525
Received 538 Likes on 325 Posts
Originally Posted by Boostn7
Hey Steve....long time no talk...

No fire in my part :-)
Jumping on a dyno jet will clear things up I guess....
Or we could do a side by side highway pull and see if the 130mph traps are there:-) which it would need closer to ~500rwh :-)


JD
Hey John,

she's not makin' 500 horse, that's for damn sure......that 130 was a joke on my part. Dynojet sometime soon (and perhaps side by side highway pulls up and down 287 as well), but for now I plan on kicking back and relaxing .

Rich
Old 07-16-05, 04:13 PM
  #77  
Rotary Freak

 
pluto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: fort worth, tx, usa
Posts: 1,926
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
You got enough free tuning already. LOL If i'm doing this, it'll be for Brian and not you. :-P



Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Hey John,

she's not makin' 500 horse, that's for damn sure......that 130 was a joke on my part. Dynojet sometime soon (and perhaps side by side highway pulls up and down 287 as well), but for now I plan on kicking back and relaxing .

Rich
Old 07-19-05, 01:59 AM
  #78  
BNR built motor and twins

 
AgentSpeed's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: 2 hours drive from sanity
Posts: 1,235
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Did I hear free tuning??? Bryan's wanting me to turn it up to 17psi on your next trip down to B-ham. If I'm there it'll be just to watch others because I think I lost my ***** a long time ago...lol
Old 07-19-05, 03:48 PM
  #79  
FD > FB > FC

 
hornbm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Bothell, WA
Posts: 3,873
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
What kind of potential does thes BNR turbos have if you were to still run them in sequential mode? With high boost too? Id love to see a dyno sheet on anyone thats done it
Old 07-19-05, 08:40 PM
  #80  
Eats, Sleeps, Dreams Rotary

 
matty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: CT
Posts: 4,923
Likes: 0
Received 22 Likes on 14 Posts
dayum rich...nice numbers!
Old 07-19-05, 08:54 PM
  #81  
Lives on the Forum

 
rynberg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: San Lorenzo, California
Posts: 14,716
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Originally Posted by hornbm
What kind of potential does thes BNR turbos have if you were to still run them in sequential mode? With high boost too? Id love to see a dyno sheet on anyone thats done it
My car will be running them sequentially, but with a hi-flow cat. My engine rebuild is underway so I'll breaking the motor in and working out any bugs during August. Hopefully, I can arrange a tuning session in September. We'll see.....
Old 07-20-05, 07:43 AM
  #82  
Eats, Sleeps, Dreams Rotary

 
matty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: CT
Posts: 4,923
Likes: 0
Received 22 Likes on 14 Posts
Originally Posted by rynberg
My car will be running them sequentially, but with a hi-flow cat. My engine rebuild is underway so I'll breaking the motor in and working out any bugs during August. Hopefully, I can arrange a tuning session in September. We'll see.....
why no midpipe?
Old 07-20-05, 08:24 AM
  #83  
Original Gangster/Rotary!


Thread Starter
iTrader: (213)
 
GoodfellaFD3S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: FL-->NJ/NYC again!
Posts: 30,525
Received 538 Likes on 325 Posts
Originally Posted by matty
why no midpipe?
Most likely b/c Tyler lives in Kali, land of the evil emissions *****.

Thanks for the congrats, was nice finally meeting you out on L.I.
Old 07-20-05, 11:52 AM
  #84  
Eats, Sleeps, Dreams Rotary

 
matty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: CT
Posts: 4,923
Likes: 0
Received 22 Likes on 14 Posts
Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Most likely b/c Tyler lives in Kali, land of the evil emissions *****.

Thanks for the congrats, was nice finally meeting you out on L.I.
damn that sucks..mp makes big difference.

good meeting you too. any idea if Kan is due back to the tristate area?
Old 07-20-05, 11:32 PM
  #85  
I'm YZF
 
92 FD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: MI
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by matty
damn that sucks..mp makes big difference.
yep...mp and light weight flywheel mandatory for non sequential
Old 07-20-05, 11:45 PM
  #86  
Lives on the Forum

 
rynberg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: San Lorenzo, California
Posts: 14,716
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Originally Posted by 92 FD
yep...mp and light weight flywheel mandatory for non sequential
Maybe, but I'll be running them sequentially...

Matty, my car is still a DD (for a little while longer anyway) and a frequently driven car. I really don't want to deal with the noise and smell of a midpipe or deal with the emissions ***** or overzealous state troopers.....

If I wasn't worried about the above, I would have gone with a small single turbo. BNR's+hi-flow cat = a car that looks 100% emissions compliant and should legitimately pass the sniffer test.

I won't achieve Rich's awesome numbers but I hope to make a very good amount of power while still hitting emissions and not vaporizing stock twins.....
Old 07-21-05, 05:02 PM
  #87  
0 lbs of boost

iTrader: (1)
 
turbogarrett's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: wisconsin
Posts: 1,261
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by 92 FD
yep...mp and light weight flywheel mandatory for non sequential
Why is a lightweight flywheel mandatory for non seq?

Nice #'s with the twins

Last edited by turbogarrett; 07-21-05 at 05:05 PM.
Old 07-21-05, 06:18 PM
  #88  
Eats, Sleeps, Dreams Rotary

 
matty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: CT
Posts: 4,923
Likes: 0
Received 22 Likes on 14 Posts
Originally Posted by turbogarrett
Why is a lightweight flywheel mandatory for non seq?

Nice #'s with the twins
i actually didnt notice much of a difference with my flywheel. But i do love my mp.
Old 07-21-05, 06:22 PM
  #89  
Eats, Sleeps, Dreams Rotary

 
matty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: CT
Posts: 4,923
Likes: 0
Received 22 Likes on 14 Posts
hey rich are u going to etown soon? i will meet up with you if you go.
I cant waitt o see some traps out of that thing.
Old 07-21-05, 08:09 PM
  #90  
FD > FB > FC

 
hornbm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Bothell, WA
Posts: 3,873
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Originally Posted by rynberg
My car will be running them sequentially, but with a hi-flow cat. My engine rebuild is underway so I'll breaking the motor in and working out any bugs during August. Hopefully, I can arrange a tuning session in September. We'll see.....

Id like to keep in touch with you, when you get some results.
Old 07-22-05, 12:08 AM
  #91  
I'm YZF
 
92 FD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: MI
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by turbogarrett
Why is a lightweight flywheel mandatory for non seq?
of course anything that helps the car build revs quickly will also decrease turbo spool time
Old 07-22-05, 06:43 AM
  #92  
0 lbs of boost

iTrader: (1)
 
turbogarrett's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: wisconsin
Posts: 1,261
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by 92 FD
of course anything that helps the car build revs quickly will also decrease turbo spool time
I would think the opposite. More flywheel weight puts more load on the engine down low decreasing spool time, getting you off the line faster.
Old 07-22-05, 09:49 AM
  #93  
Original Gangster/Rotary!


Thread Starter
iTrader: (213)
 
GoodfellaFD3S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: FL-->NJ/NYC again!
Posts: 30,525
Received 538 Likes on 325 Posts
In my experience, a stock (heavier) flywheel helps while launching at the strip, while the aluminum flywheel helps acceleration tremendously once underway, esp. in the lower gears.

Rich
Old 07-22-05, 11:01 PM
  #94  
I'm YZF
 
92 FD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: MI
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by turbogarrett
I would think the opposite. More flywheel weight puts more load on the engine down low decreasing spool time, getting you off the line faster.
you are confusing your ability (or inability) to launch the car with the physics of spooling a turbine...it's all about flow, PERIOD....the greater the air flow rate you can push the the engine, and the more quickly you can achieve that higher flow rate, all other things being equal, the faster the turbo will spool up

re-read how a turbo-charger works, there really is no debate here...again, I'm not talking about the ability or inability to launch the car...that's a separate issue
Old 07-23-05, 12:14 AM
  #95  
0 lbs of boost

iTrader: (1)
 
turbogarrett's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: wisconsin
Posts: 1,261
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by 92 FD
you are confusing your ability (or inability) to launch the car with the physics of spooling a turbine...it's all about flow, PERIOD....the greater the air flow rate you can push the the engine, and the more quickly you can achieve that higher flow rate, all other things being equal, the faster the turbo will spool up

re-read how a turbo-charger works, there really is no debate here...again, I'm not talking about the ability or inability to launch the car...that's a separate issue
wtf are you talking about? Do you know what a flywheel is? Hint: it is not part of a turbocharger
Old 07-23-05, 02:33 AM
  #96  
I'm YZF
 
92 FD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: MI
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
bah....I'm talking to a moron
Old 07-23-05, 09:31 AM
  #97  
Original Gangster/Rotary!


Thread Starter
iTrader: (213)
 
GoodfellaFD3S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: FL-->NJ/NYC again!
Posts: 30,525
Received 538 Likes on 325 Posts
Guys, start a thread dedicated to morons, flywheels, and turbo spool if you are so inclined. thanks .

Rich
Old 07-23-05, 05:34 PM
  #98  
0 lbs of boost

iTrader: (1)
 
turbogarrett's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: wisconsin
Posts: 1,261
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
92fd, I thought you confused the flywheel with a turbo compressor wheel in your post. Name calling aside, it would make a good debate. In my experience with both my non seq fd and awd dsm's, low rpm response suffered after swapping in lightweight flywheels.
Old 07-23-05, 05:37 PM
  #99  
I'm YZF
 
92 FD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: MI
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
you missed the point...the point is whatever you can do to help the car build rpm quickly, the faster the turbos will spool...launching the car is a separate issue (although somewhat related in terms of clutch function)

sorry for the name calling....have a good day
Old 07-23-05, 08:07 PM
  #100  
Full Member

 
JordonMusser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: college station
Posts: 89
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
A lighter flywheel is a much better option, period. A heavy flywheel is like adding weight to the car- it will only make you slower. this is NOT true for a launch where you are sitting at high revs and drop the clutch, but holds true once you are accelerating, PERIOD. if i wasnt in a hurry I would post the equation for calculating the acceleration of a vehicle but you would find that masses are in the denominator, aka, they go up, acceleration goes down.


Quick Reply: Finally! BNR Stage 3 high boost dyno results



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:04 AM.