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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Boostn7
Hey Steve....long time no talk...

No fire in my part :-)
Jumping on a dyno jet will clear things up I guess....
Or we could do a side by side highway pull and see if the 130mph traps are there:-) which it would need closer to ~500rwh :-)


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Hey John,

she's not makin' 500 horse, that's for damn sure......that 130 was a joke on my part. Dynojet sometime soon (and perhaps side by side highway pulls up and down 287 as well), but for now I plan on kicking back and relaxing .

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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 04:13 PM
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You got enough free tuning already. LOL If i'm doing this, it'll be for Brian and not you. :-P



Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Hey John,

she's not makin' 500 horse, that's for damn sure......that 130 was a joke on my part. Dynojet sometime soon (and perhaps side by side highway pulls up and down 287 as well), but for now I plan on kicking back and relaxing .

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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 01:59 AM
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Did I hear free tuning??? Bryan's wanting me to turn it up to 17psi on your next trip down to B-ham. If I'm there it'll be just to watch others because I think I lost my ***** a long time ago...lol
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 03:48 PM
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What kind of potential does thes BNR turbos have if you were to still run them in sequential mode? With high boost too? Id love to see a dyno sheet on anyone thats done it
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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dayum rich...nice numbers!
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by hornbm
What kind of potential does thes BNR turbos have if you were to still run them in sequential mode? With high boost too? Id love to see a dyno sheet on anyone thats done it
My car will be running them sequentially, but with a hi-flow cat. My engine rebuild is underway so I'll breaking the motor in and working out any bugs during August. Hopefully, I can arrange a tuning session in September. We'll see.....
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 07:43 AM
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My car will be running them sequentially, but with a hi-flow cat. My engine rebuild is underway so I'll breaking the motor in and working out any bugs during August. Hopefully, I can arrange a tuning session in September. We'll see.....
why no midpipe?
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by matty
why no midpipe?
Most likely b/c Tyler lives in Kali, land of the evil emissions *****.

Thanks for the congrats, was nice finally meeting you out on L.I.
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Most likely b/c Tyler lives in Kali, land of the evil emissions *****.

Thanks for the congrats, was nice finally meeting you out on L.I.
damn that sucks..mp makes big difference.

good meeting you too. any idea if Kan is due back to the tristate area?
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by matty
damn that sucks..mp makes big difference.
yep...mp and light weight flywheel mandatory for non sequential
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 92 FD
yep...mp and light weight flywheel mandatory for non sequential
Maybe, but I'll be running them sequentially...

Matty, my car is still a DD (for a little while longer anyway) and a frequently driven car. I really don't want to deal with the noise and smell of a midpipe or deal with the emissions ***** or overzealous state troopers.....

If I wasn't worried about the above, I would have gone with a small single turbo. BNR's+hi-flow cat = a car that looks 100% emissions compliant and should legitimately pass the sniffer test.

I won't achieve Rich's awesome numbers but I hope to make a very good amount of power while still hitting emissions and not vaporizing stock twins.....
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Old Jul 21, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 92 FD
yep...mp and light weight flywheel mandatory for non sequential
Why is a lightweight flywheel mandatory for non seq?

Nice #'s with the twins

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Old Jul 21, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by turbogarrett
Why is a lightweight flywheel mandatory for non seq?

Nice #'s with the twins
i actually didnt notice much of a difference with my flywheel. But i do love my mp.
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Old Jul 21, 2005 | 06:22 PM
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hey rich are u going to etown soon? i will meet up with you if you go.
I cant waitt o see some traps out of that thing.
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Old Jul 21, 2005 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rynberg
My car will be running them sequentially, but with a hi-flow cat. My engine rebuild is underway so I'll breaking the motor in and working out any bugs during August. Hopefully, I can arrange a tuning session in September. We'll see.....

Id like to keep in touch with you, when you get some results.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by turbogarrett
Why is a lightweight flywheel mandatory for non seq?
of course anything that helps the car build revs quickly will also decrease turbo spool time
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 92 FD
of course anything that helps the car build revs quickly will also decrease turbo spool time
I would think the opposite. More flywheel weight puts more load on the engine down low decreasing spool time, getting you off the line faster.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 09:49 AM
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In my experience, a stock (heavier) flywheel helps while launching at the strip, while the aluminum flywheel helps acceleration tremendously once underway, esp. in the lower gears.

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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by turbogarrett
I would think the opposite. More flywheel weight puts more load on the engine down low decreasing spool time, getting you off the line faster.
you are confusing your ability (or inability) to launch the car with the physics of spooling a turbine...it's all about flow, PERIOD....the greater the air flow rate you can push the the engine, and the more quickly you can achieve that higher flow rate, all other things being equal, the faster the turbo will spool up

re-read how a turbo-charger works, there really is no debate here...again, I'm not talking about the ability or inability to launch the car...that's a separate issue
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 92 FD
you are confusing your ability (or inability) to launch the car with the physics of spooling a turbine...it's all about flow, PERIOD....the greater the air flow rate you can push the the engine, and the more quickly you can achieve that higher flow rate, all other things being equal, the faster the turbo will spool up

re-read how a turbo-charger works, there really is no debate here...again, I'm not talking about the ability or inability to launch the car...that's a separate issue
wtf are you talking about? Do you know what a flywheel is? Hint: it is not part of a turbocharger
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 02:33 AM
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bah....I'm talking to a moron
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 09:31 AM
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Guys, start a thread dedicated to morons, flywheels, and turbo spool if you are so inclined. thanks .

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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 05:34 PM
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92fd, I thought you confused the flywheel with a turbo compressor wheel in your post. Name calling aside, it would make a good debate. In my experience with both my non seq fd and awd dsm's, low rpm response suffered after swapping in lightweight flywheels.
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 05:37 PM
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you missed the point...the point is whatever you can do to help the car build rpm quickly, the faster the turbos will spool...launching the car is a separate issue (although somewhat related in terms of clutch function)

sorry for the name calling....have a good day
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 08:07 PM
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A lighter flywheel is a much better option, period. A heavy flywheel is like adding weight to the car- it will only make you slower. this is NOT true for a launch where you are sitting at high revs and drop the clutch, but holds true once you are accelerating, PERIOD. if i wasnt in a hurry I would post the equation for calculating the acceleration of a vehicle but you would find that masses are in the denominator, aka, they go up, acceleration goes down.
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