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will this wheel/offset setup fit my car?

Old Apr 4, 2004 | 12:23 AM
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will this wheel/offset setup fit my car?

I currently have no suspension modifications on my fd and I dont plan on lowering the car at all.Im interested in getting some volk rays gram lights 57 pros and would like to run 17x9 wheels all around.Now I have to be honest.I dont know a damn thing about how offsets work or let alone how to use the right one.The offsets that are offered for the 17x9's are +12,+25,+27,+30,+35,+40.From what ive seen the +40 would probably have to be the offset thats most likely to fit.I just need some help with all of this.
I want to run 17x9's all around and i really like the volk gram light pro's.Will 17x9 with +40 offset fit?
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Old Apr 4, 2004 | 01:43 AM
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I searched around and came across this link to an offset calculator.Correct me if im wrong but the stock offset is
+50 on the 16x8 inch wheels.I entered this amount and then the new wheel width and offset.Which was 9inch wide with a +40 offset.I was given this data.The inside of the wheel will be 3mm less and the outside lip will be extended by 23mm.Will this fit?
I then tried a 9 inch wide wheel with a +35 offset to see if it would dramatically change anything.The data I was given was that the inside lip would be extended by 2mm and the outside lip would be extended by 28 mm.
Will this setup still fit with no problems on my car?
Last but not least I tried the 9 inch wide with a +30 offset and heres the result.The inside lip would extend by 7 mm and the outside lip will extend by 33 mm.
Once again will this work?
I wonder how much clearance there is on the inside and outside before things begin to rub? Can anyone answer this for me?
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Old Apr 4, 2004 | 03:45 AM
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17x9 +40 is an aggressive fitment and will most likely catch the fender lip on entering steep driveways. It will probably be ok in normal driving situations with the stock suspension. Anything less than +40 won't work at all.
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Old Apr 4, 2004 | 01:45 PM
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thanx rynberg for the help man.So this will only cause problems when entering a steep driveway.What about going up steep hills or taking turns aggresively? will this also cause a problem? I mean I really like the gram light pros but I dont exactly want my driveability to suffer.Does volk make wheels with custom offsets by any chance?
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Old Apr 4, 2004 | 03:38 PM
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I don't know, it may or may not. The problem with FDs is, literally, every car is different. Some people run the exact same setups and one person will rub and another won't. That's why more conservative fitments like 17x9 +45 offset are recommended.

Volk does not really make custom offsets, but there are many other better fitting wheels on the market with similar looks to the Gram Lights. Check out some of Volk's other wheels or the SSR line-up (www.tirerack.com).
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Old Apr 4, 2004 | 09:24 PM
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Originally posted by rynberg

Anything less than +40 won't work at all.
Not true. "ptrhahn" runs +37 Fikse FM/10s in a 17x8.5 up front and had +38 SSRs in a 17x8.
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Old Apr 4, 2004 | 09:39 PM
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I also found some alternative wheels to the volk gram lights.
They happen to be from ssr.
They are SSR integrals gt 2.I cant seem to find a place that sells these wheels in particular.I looked on tire rack and didnt find these wheels either.Anyone know of a place that does sell these wheels?
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Old Apr 4, 2004 | 09:59 PM
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Originally posted by speeddemon7

I also found some alternative wheels to the volk gram lights.
They happen to be from ssr.
They are SSR integrals gt 2.I cant seem to find a place that sells these wheels in particular.I looked on tire rack and didnt find these wheels either.Anyone know of a place that does sell these wheels?
These? Although it's not on their site, Bulletproof Automotive can get them:

http://www.bulletproofautomotive.com



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Old Apr 4, 2004 | 11:25 PM
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for how much? they look ****** sweet.although once again they only come as high as +40 offset in 17x9's.
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 01:34 AM
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Originally posted by SpeedKing
Not true. "ptrhahn" runs +37 Fikse FM/10s in a 17x8.5 up front and had +38 SSRs in a 17x8.
My comments were in regards to a 9" wheel, not skinnier wheels. And ptrhahn has posted that he still occasionally gets rubbing, even with a stiffer suspension than most of us run.
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 01:35 AM
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The Integral A2 is discontinued. The new GT2 is available from the tire rack, but it's in staggered fitments now, like the Competitions and GT7.

So far, after doing a little spirited driving with my new staggered fitment, I'm thinking that the car feels pretty balanced.....
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 06:08 AM
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Originally posted by rynberg

My comments were in regards to a 9" wheel, not skinnier wheels. And ptrhahn has posted that he still occasionally gets rubbing, even with a stiffer suspension than most of us run.
I thought that an offset of +37 was too low as well and I PMed him when I read about his setups and he mentioned, "the only rubbing issues I have are with the wheel turned... it rubs the liner ahead of the wheel, behind the oil coolers... almost everyone with aftermarket wheels has this problem to some degree.".
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by SpeedKing
I thought that an offset of +37 was too low as well and I PMed him when I read about his setups and he mentioned, "the only rubbing issues I have are with the wheel turned... it rubs the liner ahead of the wheel, behind the oil coolers... almost everyone with aftermarket wheels has this problem to some degree.".
Like I said, my comments were regarding a 9" wheel, not an 8.5". Also, I am running 235/40 on a 8.5" wheel, which is bigger than stock diameter by almost 1/2". I get zero rubbing at full lock -- the difference? My wheels are +45 offset.
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 11:53 AM
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hey rynberg.what setup do you have for your wheels?
Im either going to go with 17x9's all around or 17x8.5 in the front and 17x9.5 in the rear.Thats what ssr recommends anyways.The 8.5's in the front and the 9.5's in the rear.
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 12:01 PM
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hey speedking where did you get the pics of the ssr gt2 wheels and what finish are they.I checked tire rack and they only seem to offer the 18 inch rims.
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by speeddemon7
hey rynberg.what setup do you have for your wheels?
Im either going to go with 17x9's all around or 17x8.5 in the front and 17x9.5 in the rear.Thats what ssr recommends anyways.The 8.5's in the front and the 9.5's in the rear.
My new setup is 18x8.5/18x9.5 +45 offset Enkei RP-01s with 235/40 and 265/35 Toyo Proxes T1-S. I will be posting a full review shortly.

Personally, from my experiences so far, I would say that 17x9 all around would be more fun on the street, but the staggered setup might be faster on the track. Either way, you'll have more grip than with the stock rims/tires.
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 02:42 PM
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hey speedking where did you get the pics of the ssr gt2 wheels and what finish are they.I checked tire rack and they only seem to offer the 18 inch rims.
The color is "S.B.C." (Super Black Coat). If you want other sizes or colors (http://www.speedstar.co.jp/), you'd have to go through a shop that sources JDM products like Bulletproof (link above in other post), Gruppe-S, or Z1Auto.
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 03:56 PM
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so the two big pics you posted were off of speed stars's website? because I cant seem to find any pics in that size.Or do you have a set? I actually like the gt2 rims better than the gram lights now.Plus they have 8.5 wide wheels in 17's.so im considering some 8.5's in the front and some 9.0 or 9.5 in the rear.What setup do you think will give me the best handling?
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 04:49 PM
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in the new tire rack "inside track" magazine they list the gt2 as being available in 17, 18 or 19. (the magazine comes free with any purchase i think)

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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by speeddemon7

so the two big pics you posted were off of speed stars's website? because I cant seem to find any pics in that size.Or do you have a set? I actually like the gt2 rims better than the gram lights now.Plus they have 8.5 wide wheels in 17's.so im considering some 8.5's in the front and some 9.0 or 9.5 in the rear.What setup do you think will give me the best handling?
I forgot where I got those pics...think they were off a Lancer Evo site.

Try this page on the SSR site for more pics (http://www.speedstar.co.jp/collectio...gt2/index.html), and if you click on the size icons ("17 Inch", etc.) next to "Line Up" on the right, you'll see all the available widths and offsets that are available in that wheel size. Tire Rack won't have these so as I mentioned previously, you'd have to order through a shop that sources JDM products like the ones I mentioned above. And no, I don't have those wheels. I just picked up a set of Fikse FM/5s. For best neutral handling, go the same size all around.
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 04:53 PM
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in the new tire rack "inside track" magazine they list the gt2 as being available in 17, 18 or 19. (the magazine comes free with any purchase i think)

Sure, but TR will only be carrying an 18" fitment for FDs.

BTW, (OT), any update on the floor mat group buy?
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 04:55 PM
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here is a scan of all the ssr wheels tire rack is offering (no specific fitments or prices)



OT-never heard back from the mods on that GB- Shoot me a pm and maybe we can talk)

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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 04:58 PM
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thanx for the help guys.Im really liking the ssr gt2's now.I think im going to go with the suber black coated ones.Theyre so sweet looking.
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