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sway/anti-roll bars for an FD?

Old Sep 18, 2004 | 01:03 PM
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sway/anti-roll bars for an FD?

I am fitting Tein RE suspension to my '95 FD, and obviously gonna be wanting to upgrade the sway/roll bars. Anyone got any input on which are the highest rated or best for fast road/circuit use?

I've seen pettit/re/cusco etc... but none give an accurate spec for comparison, any comments would be very gratefully recieved! Thanks!
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Old Sep 18, 2004 | 04:12 PM
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Personally, I don't see why stiffer anti-roll bars are automatically necessary. In fact, with the much stiffer springs you will be running, if anything you could REDUCE anti-roll bar stiffness IMO.

BTW, enjoy those 900/900 lb spring rates....
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Old Sep 18, 2004 | 04:59 PM
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tripoint has great support for racing specific applications.

If you call them and tell them your set up, that is, spring rates F and R, wheel size and stagger, they can give you a recommendation for the swaybar.

Also there front swaybar is adjustable.

http://www.tripointengineering.com/C...suspension.htm
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Old Sep 18, 2004 | 05:48 PM
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Depeding on the spring rates you're running I would advise against a rear bar, of course also depending on your functions. I completely agree with Rynberg. With the higher spring rates of a coilover you can alleviate the need for sway bars. Sway bars will negate the "independent" suspension aspect of your vehicle. In many roadrace situations we have completely eliminated the rear bar inleu of much higher spring rates. This allows us to eliminate a great amount of body roll, while still retaining the independent suspension.

Best of luck. Not sure what's available in UK, but I'd just go for Eibach if you're a standard type of person. Of course if they make it. Otherwise, tripoint for a "real" bar = $$$$$$. Do you know the thickness of the bar you're looking for. Hollow or Solid.

I suggest testing the car with your coils first and then determine if it's a necessity.
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 08:24 PM
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I agree with 7racer. If I didn't have my adjustable fron Tri-Point bar I'd be looking at swapping bars and trying different spring rates. But then again I'm pretty picky.
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 02:04 PM
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cheers guys! Having driven Teins different suspension set ups on different jap cars (evos/subarus/supras/civics/integras/skylines) I'm gonna have to trust their spring ratings, haven't been wrong yet! But I will wait a while and see what I can get out of them on the stock sway bars. looks like the tri-point adjustable is the way forward for the front (avoiding the RB one snapping on track?) and maybe the RB/TP rear?

I will wait though, will post experience of the Tein RE's after a few track days! Thanks again!
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 02:10 PM
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backtrack!

endless - remove the rear sway bar, interesting, does that not make the rear end a little unpredictable at the limit of grip i.e. just before starting to slide? obviously driver preference! just interested!
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 03:48 PM
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Removing the rear bar is something FC owners do more often than FD owners. It will cause more understeer. With the equal spring rates you may want to try it because you might get oversteer. However if you do get a front bar, taking the rear bar off will only be bad in my opinion.
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Old Sep 25, 2004 | 09:05 AM
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Which Brake pads for the street w/ low dust?

I'm in need of getting brake rotors. Mine are shot. I'm thinking of getting slotted rotors off Ebay($171 shipped for all four). I just need to buy some pads to go with them.

Any suggestions?

My criteria are good stopping grip
Low brake dust(Or am **** out of luck with the slotted rotors?)
Quiet, no squealing

Or are these qualities mutually exclusive?
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Old Sep 25, 2004 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jpandes
I'm in need of getting brake rotors. Mine are shot. I'm thinking of getting slotted rotors off Ebay($171 shipped for all four). I just need to buy some pads to go with them.

Any suggestions?

My criteria are good stopping grip
Low brake dust(Or am **** out of luck with the slotted rotors?)
Quiet, no squealing

Or are these qualities mutually exclusive?
Slotted rotors may increase the amount of dust, but all of those factors are more closely related to brake pads than rotors. Try some EBC Greens -- they have high friction (should give good feel and "bite") and are said to dust less than Hawk's street pad offerings. They shouldn't squeal, either.

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Old Sep 25, 2004 | 04:35 PM
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dunno how we got onto brake pads...but...
nonononononono!
dont get EBC green! way too soft! red stuff are better (still got through an entire set on 1 track day in my 360bhp GTI-R though hmm)

IMHO try some of the Jap brand pads, avoid anything european, apexi 400s are my favourite, grip like nothing else, warm up in a few corners and last 4 times as long as EBC red stuff. Theyre expensive but worth it!

note: there is a SLIGHT chance of MINOR squeal with red stuff (not got any with the apexi 400s) but you can fade green stuff in 4 corners if youre 'enthusiastic'

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Old Sep 26, 2004 | 12:15 AM
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While I agree that Greens won't work well on the track, I think he was looking for street pads.

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Old Sep 26, 2004 | 01:22 PM
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i know but if you brake hard with green stuff just once from 120 down to 30, they'll fade, theyre specced for 1000kg cars that only go the shops and back and dont even extend the green range to anything over 1200kg, anything resembling a 'performance' car though... I'd fit reds and allow an extra metre to stop at the 1st set of lights in the morning, they'll be as normal as normal after that.

what pads do you run for track use in the US?
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Old Sep 26, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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Some common track pads in use in the US:
Hawk Blue, Black
EBC Red
Porterfield R4, R4E

-Max
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Old Sep 26, 2004 | 06:08 PM
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tripoint is the real thing....
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