This sucks ... what next
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This sucks ... what next
After spending months trying to decide on and then find the perfect wheel, I ended up getting some Fikse FM/10's. I love the wheels, but found out today that they're not going to fit. Just my luck ...
On my '87 Turbo with the Mariah widebody front fenders and cut inner lip on the rear. For the fronts I have 17x8.5's with a 37.7mm offset and a 1 inch spacer. This theoretically should have worked perfect with the widebody fenders. In the rear, I got 17x9.5's with a 37.7mm offset - again Rishie said this would work. But the tires look like they're going to run the inside on the lower trailing arm, and on the outside by rubbing the bodywork.
God this sucks. I'm really about to give up and buy some sort of D Sport Racer. Trying to make a racecar out of a street car is just such a pain in the ***.
On my '87 Turbo with the Mariah widebody front fenders and cut inner lip on the rear. For the fronts I have 17x8.5's with a 37.7mm offset and a 1 inch spacer. This theoretically should have worked perfect with the widebody fenders. In the rear, I got 17x9.5's with a 37.7mm offset - again Rishie said this would work. But the tires look like they're going to run the inside on the lower trailing arm, and on the outside by rubbing the bodywork.
God this sucks. I'm really about to give up and buy some sort of D Sport Racer. Trying to make a racecar out of a street car is just such a pain in the ***.
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Aren't fikse hubcentric....FC and FD have different size middle hubs...so they wont fit fine on a FD....the offset's are ok..but not ideal for a FD either....fixem and keep em
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Ryan,
Try running 225/45-17s on the 8.5 x 17s up front, and 255/40-17s on the 9.5 x 17s in back. If you keep the tire widths on the low end of the rim width range of each wheel width, then you might not get a rubbing problem. You'll just need to be careful around curbs, as the minimum tire sidewall width WON'T protect your rim lips from scratching!
Best of luck!
ML
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Try running 225/45-17s on the 8.5 x 17s up front, and 255/40-17s on the 9.5 x 17s in back. If you keep the tire widths on the low end of the rim width range of each wheel width, then you might not get a rubbing problem. You'll just need to be careful around curbs, as the minimum tire sidewall width WON'T protect your rim lips from scratching!
Best of luck!
ML
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I was going to run 245's all the way around for awhile because you can get the used Hoosiers in that size dirt cheap. Hoosier doesn't make a 255, so it's either 245 used for 265 for full retail out back.
Curbs? This is a trailer queen ...
Wheel/Tire fitment is such a bitch. Just have to measure and keep the fingers crossed. Even when you do that it doesn't work.
Curbs? This is a trailer queen ...
Wheel/Tire fitment is such a bitch. Just have to measure and keep the fingers crossed. Even when you do that it doesn't work.
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Well, we run 17,9.5's with a +35 to +38 and 255/40's all the time. It should work fine. Especially since you have coilovers and have removed the lower spring perch.
All the 18,9.5's that are run on an FC have a +38mm offset and ask CYMFC3S, they fit. I've done so many 17's the same way and they fit fine. We run 265/35/18's and 255/40/17's. I can testify for those fitments.
The vehicle needs to be lowered with the tires on there to see the whole picture.
As for the front fitment, that was all on you and what Mariah had suggested. I had my own theories, but Marial said that's what should be done as per your request.
Unless Fikse built the wrong offsets, that's warrantyable. I guess you should measure the wheel.
I would also suggest different size spacers. The 25's can be sold to an FC wanting FD wheels. Those spacers are great when putting an FD wheel in the rear of an FC. For the fronts I would suggest a 15mm when doing the conversion. So that's an option for you too. The 15 sounds like the best fitment in the front for you too.
The 15 spacer is like $125.00 I believe. Don't rule out your options. By rule of thumb, you've added 6mm in comparison to an 8" width, so the 15 should allow plenty of clearance for the tires you want. Hypothetically, If a +37 in an 8" works great with a 225, you should be able to run a 8.5" with a +15 in a 235/30 or 245/40 I would think. I haven't looked at the section widths, but that's just from math in my head.
The 12mm offset that you desired sounded too low to me, but that's what they said.
I'm confident with the rear fitment in a 255/40 and thinner. Then it comes down to tire options. The centerbore is different than the FD, so it would require machining and would work fine. We got them hubcentric all the way around.
Let me know when I can help. Sorry this happened, it's more Mariah's fault than anything.
Rishie
All the 18,9.5's that are run on an FC have a +38mm offset and ask CYMFC3S, they fit. I've done so many 17's the same way and they fit fine. We run 265/35/18's and 255/40/17's. I can testify for those fitments.
The vehicle needs to be lowered with the tires on there to see the whole picture.
As for the front fitment, that was all on you and what Mariah had suggested. I had my own theories, but Marial said that's what should be done as per your request.
Unless Fikse built the wrong offsets, that's warrantyable. I guess you should measure the wheel.
I would also suggest different size spacers. The 25's can be sold to an FC wanting FD wheels. Those spacers are great when putting an FD wheel in the rear of an FC. For the fronts I would suggest a 15mm when doing the conversion. So that's an option for you too. The 15 sounds like the best fitment in the front for you too.
The 15 spacer is like $125.00 I believe. Don't rule out your options. By rule of thumb, you've added 6mm in comparison to an 8" width, so the 15 should allow plenty of clearance for the tires you want. Hypothetically, If a +37 in an 8" works great with a 225, you should be able to run a 8.5" with a +15 in a 235/30 or 245/40 I would think. I haven't looked at the section widths, but that's just from math in my head.
The 12mm offset that you desired sounded too low to me, but that's what they said.
I'm confident with the rear fitment in a 255/40 and thinner. Then it comes down to tire options. The centerbore is different than the FD, so it would require machining and would work fine. We got them hubcentric all the way around.
Let me know when I can help. Sorry this happened, it's more Mariah's fault than anything.
Rishie
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I still don't see how that rear is going to fit. There's literally less than 5 mm between the wheel and suspension components on the inside. It's going to be snug.
I wish I could get a 10mm spacer - 15 is going to be to much I think. It's close with no spacer at all in the front. I think we can get it to work, but it's still a pain in the ***.
I wish I could get a 10mm spacer - 15 is going to be to much I think. It's close with no spacer at all in the front. I think we can get it to work, but it's still a pain in the ***.
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my friend is running 17x9 front and rear with 235 on stock fenders and stock shocks with eibach springs just fine... with coil overs and wide fenders I can't see how you could be hitting both fender and susp....
I don't know the off sets. on a 90 TII
I don't know the off sets. on a 90 TII
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Ryan,
Once the car loads on its suspension, there might actually be more clearance, than you think. Won't know until you mount tires and set the car down from the jackstands, I guess...
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Once the car loads on its suspension, there might actually be more clearance, than you think. Won't know until you mount tires and set the car down from the jackstands, I guess...
ML
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Ryan,
As far as Hoosiers go, you could run, 225/45-17 fronts and 245/40-17 rears.
ML
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As far as Hoosiers go, you could run, 225/45-17 fronts and 245/40-17 rears.
ML
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I hope you're right Manny ... Rishie said the same thing so it must be true
225's in front? That would kinda make those widebody fenders and 8.5" rims pointless ... I ran 225's when I had stock rims/fenders
225's in front? That would kinda make those widebody fenders and 8.5" rims pointless ... I ran 225's when I had stock rims/fenders
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Hey Scott,
You got some valuable piece of info. hehe.
What rims and offsets is he running to make the 17,9 fit. That's impressive. I'd be very interested in learning about this setup. Cause I want it. hehe. Even if I can just fit the 235/40 on the 8.0" would be great.
TIA, Rishie
Running 225's was kinda out of the picture for Ryan, his intention with the fenders is to get the front contact patch nearer that of the rear. It will all work out. I'm confident. Worst comes to worst we'll need to switch spacers out or something.
You got some valuable piece of info. hehe.
What rims and offsets is he running to make the 17,9 fit. That's impressive. I'd be very interested in learning about this setup. Cause I want it. hehe. Even if I can just fit the 235/40 on the 8.0" would be great.
TIA, Rishie
Running 225's was kinda out of the picture for Ryan, his intention with the fenders is to get the front contact patch nearer that of the rear. It will all work out. I'm confident. Worst comes to worst we'll need to switch spacers out or something.
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I wish there was such a thing as a 10mm spacer. 5mm is to small, and 15 is to big. I'm going to order my tires this week, and mount them up next week. I have the entire front suspension off the car now, and almost all the rear ... so gotta get that back on first. Finally installing the new bushings in front.
Once I get the tires mounted I'll see how it fits with the suspension loaded and the 1 inch spacers in front. Keep your fingers crossed for me
Once I get the tires mounted I'll see how it fits with the suspension loaded and the 1 inch spacers in front. Keep your fingers crossed for me
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Ryan and Rishie,
I'm confused as to why you're still needing wheel spacers? If the Fikse offsets are CORRECT, you won't need spacers. The only thing I can think of is that Fikse couldn't make wheels in 20-mm offsets (resulting offset of a 35 mm offset wheel wearing 15 mm spacers)?
Also you'll need to worry about lug stud lengths. With 10 to 15 mm spacers, your lug studs might end up 0.40 to 0.60 inches too short.
ML
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I'm confused as to why you're still needing wheel spacers? If the Fikse offsets are CORRECT, you won't need spacers. The only thing I can think of is that Fikse couldn't make wheels in 20-mm offsets (resulting offset of a 35 mm offset wheel wearing 15 mm spacers)?
Also you'll need to worry about lug stud lengths. With 10 to 15 mm spacers, your lug studs might end up 0.40 to 0.60 inches too short.
ML
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The problem was more an aesthetic one than the fact that Fikse couldn't make the desired offset.What would have happened is a much larger outer rim lip in the front as opposed to the rear. Just wouldn't look right.
As for the spacers, I know HR produces the studded spacers in a 15mm as well, so the stud length should be arbitrary.
Rishie
As for the spacers, I know HR produces the studded spacers in a 15mm as well, so the stud length should be arbitrary.
Rishie
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Rishie,
Ok, I see...this seems like a lot of trouble. Different rim lip widths are common, especially for racing type cars?
I'm glad you've thought this through with Ryan.
Regards,
ML
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Ok, I see...this seems like a lot of trouble. Different rim lip widths are common, especially for racing type cars?
I'm glad you've thought this through with Ryan.
Regards,
ML
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