Stance Coilovers
I just drove my friends 240sx with the Stance coilovers on it. I was very impressed with the quality, and the pillow ball upper mounts, urethane lower bushings! It was very streetable, I hit some good bumps and dips on the local roads, didnt feel bad at all. Then I also drove/drifted (I know some of you hate drifitng, but this is a pure drift car) at our local track. They performed perfectly! Felt just as good as my RG suspension on my FD! If anyone has doubts, I say go for it, they are damn worth the price.
Testimonials are all good and such, but I still want to see shock dynos. Like the usual damping vs. speed plots, full cycle damping vs speed plots showing hysterisis, and plots of all this across the full range of the damper settings, or as much as the shock dyno can handle.
Also the initial quality can be quite good, but it's the long term durability that would really matter to me, and it's often the long term durability that suffers on new products, just from a lack of real world use from customers. Nearly all products get better the longer they're in production, and more experianced companies will make better products right off the bat.
That said, I'm actually quite interested, but damn this money situation sucks.
Also the initial quality can be quite good, but it's the long term durability that would really matter to me, and it's often the long term durability that suffers on new products, just from a lack of real world use from customers. Nearly all products get better the longer they're in production, and more experianced companies will make better products right off the bat.
That said, I'm actually quite interested, but damn this money situation sucks.
It's a $1300.00 coilover, if you're expecting Penske Moton services or even Endless/zeal services then this probably isn't the coilover for you.
If you're someone who is looking to by Cusco Zero2's, HKS Hiperdampers, Apexi N1, Tein Flex or RE's, then this might be a damn good option. We'll see what we can get in terms of info but don't expect to receive crazy crazy amounts of information. In terms of long term durability we will have to see as time passes.
If you're someone who is looking to by Cusco Zero2's, HKS Hiperdampers, Apexi N1, Tein Flex or RE's, then this might be a damn good option. We'll see what we can get in terms of info but don't expect to receive crazy crazy amounts of information. In terms of long term durability we will have to see as time passes.
Wasn't there just a thread about this? I'll throw in my .02. Coilovers can get quite expensive. Shop around for prices. I think if you want to get the really high priced coilovers/top of the line like ARD T2 mentioned (1300), choose Silk Road, Cusco, Kei Office or Tein (although I think Tein is played out). Hell there are coilovers that cost more than a car alone (Tien?) Super circuit/drift/wind master ($2200) for full track purposes. Pillow ball mounts would also help increase stiffness if you have a strut. From waht I've seen, the Ground Control coilovers would give you a good run for your money. It's not as heavily priced as the before mentioned brands. Well, if you get these Stances, let us know how the perform!
Last edited by KeloidJonesJr.; Mar 22, 2006 at 02:46 PM.
in terms of reliability, the good thing about these Stance coilovers is that they have a replacable catridge. so if it breaks you can replace the strut catridge. not quite sure if it's easy to do yourself or not though.
I'm not necesarily suggesting that Stance would supply a shock dyno for each coilover they sell, I'm just suggesting that it may be a good idea for you to get them dynoed and post the results on the forum. I know on a few other boards (the miata.net one for instance) there's been a few individuals or groups that have dynoed a bunch of shocks and posted the results. I fully realise that these are a budget coilover (but that's still a lot of $$) and for the price the features are definetely very attractive.
I'm a suspension geek, and I'm a poor student, so I must be a vendor's/manufacturer's worst nightmare: a demanding, reaonably well informed poor person who demands everything and wants to pay nothing.
Tell you what, I just got a really high paying summer job (well high pay for a student), so if you dyno a set of these, post the results and I like what I see I'll do my best to be able to get a set of these this summer.
I'm a suspension geek, and I'm a poor student, so I must be a vendor's/manufacturer's worst nightmare: a demanding, reaonably well informed poor person who demands everything and wants to pay nothing.
Tell you what, I just got a really high paying summer job (well high pay for a student), so if you dyno a set of these, post the results and I like what I see I'll do my best to be able to get a set of these this summer.
Yo,
Sorry about that. We are expecting them in mid april. I'd say mid to late april. Hope for the best and expect the worst is my motto nowadays with Japanese products.
As for springs they are stocking springs, I would have to see if they have the 10kg in the proper length in stock. Swift springs will also soon become an option for these coilovers as well.
Thanks, Rishie
Sorry about that. We are expecting them in mid april. I'd say mid to late april. Hope for the best and expect the worst is my motto nowadays with Japanese products.
As for springs they are stocking springs, I would have to see if they have the 10kg in the proper length in stock. Swift springs will also soon become an option for these coilovers as well.
Thanks, Rishie
hey guys i have just installed a set of greddy type s coilovers on my fd. could you give me information as to the best setting for front and rear inorder to maintain comfy ride but solid performance.
thanks
thanks
It's real hard to make a blanket statement of how you should set it up. I suggest you play with them as that will ultimately determine what you personally like.
That's the only way. You're asking for a very relative answer.
the best thing to do is start at the softest setting front and rear, same settings. Then move to a middle setting, then move to a hard setting all within a short period of time so your "*** DYNO" can notice the change. Figure out where you like the "ride" to be. SEt the damping there.
Then play more aggressively with the car and see how neutral the car is at the same setting front and rear, i.e 5 clicks front and 5 clicks rear.
If the car is oversteering then soften the rear a couple notches. If it's understerring then stiffen the rear a couple notches. once you've determined that you will know what the front to rear Suspension settings bias should be. hmm, was that a run on. ah well. lolz.
So you might end up with 5 front and 7 rear for proper balance. As long as you keep 2 clicks of separation between front and rear it should for the most part remain the same unless they really messed with inconsistent damping changes between settings.
Hope you understand this.
Rishie
That's the only way. You're asking for a very relative answer.
the best thing to do is start at the softest setting front and rear, same settings. Then move to a middle setting, then move to a hard setting all within a short period of time so your "*** DYNO" can notice the change. Figure out where you like the "ride" to be. SEt the damping there.
Then play more aggressively with the car and see how neutral the car is at the same setting front and rear, i.e 5 clicks front and 5 clicks rear.
If the car is oversteering then soften the rear a couple notches. If it's understerring then stiffen the rear a couple notches. once you've determined that you will know what the front to rear Suspension settings bias should be. hmm, was that a run on. ah well. lolz.
So you might end up with 5 front and 7 rear for proper balance. As long as you keep 2 clicks of separation between front and rear it should for the most part remain the same unless they really messed with inconsistent damping changes between settings.
Hope you understand this.
Rishie
Originally Posted by ARD T2
It's a $1300.00 coilover, if you're expecting Penske Moton services or even Endless/zeal services then this probably isn't the coilover for you.
If you're someone who is looking to by Cusco Zero2's, HKS Hiperdampers, Apexi N1, Tein Flex or RE's, then this might be a damn good option. We'll see what we can get in terms of info but don't expect to receive crazy crazy amounts of information. In terms of long term durability we will have to see as time passes.
If you're someone who is looking to by Cusco Zero2's, HKS Hiperdampers, Apexi N1, Tein Flex or RE's, then this might be a damn good option. We'll see what we can get in terms of info but don't expect to receive crazy crazy amounts of information. In terms of long term durability we will have to see as time passes.
http://www.cusco.co.jp/english/e_sus_1.html
Originally Posted by Black91n/a
I'm a suspension geek, and I'm a poor student, so I must be a vendor's/manufacturer's worst nightmare: a demanding, reaonably well informed poor person who demands everything and wants to pay nothing.
Rishie, you've got to hate guys like us.
Any updates on these? Has anybody got them yet? I'd love to hear some feedback/reviews of them.
I found someone's review of them on a 240SX:
http://www.drifting.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18204
There doesn't seem to be anything else out there that can really compete with these in that price bracket. The other budget brands (D2, K-Sport, Megan, etc) all seem to have problems (according to what people are saying).
Besides the other reasons I poseted for me sucking as a customer, I try to build things myself whenever I can instead of buying them. It's just more rewarding that way, and cheaper.
That said, I'm really starting to lean towards getting these in the summer once I have some cash on hand, as they seem to be a good unit for a good price.
I found someone's review of them on a 240SX:
http://www.drifting.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18204
There doesn't seem to be anything else out there that can really compete with these in that price bracket. The other budget brands (D2, K-Sport, Megan, etc) all seem to have problems (according to what people are saying).
Besides the other reasons I poseted for me sucking as a customer, I try to build things myself whenever I can instead of buying them. It's just more rewarding that way, and cheaper.
That said, I'm really starting to lean towards getting these in the summer once I have some cash on hand, as they seem to be a good unit for a good price.
i've read a review also on an Evo forum, i can't remember where, and it was good also.
i like how the guy who reviewed them on the 240sx forum mentions shock dyno testing soon, so hopefully we get to see that
what impresses me the most is the overall contruction of these coilovers. they certainly look well built, and the pistons and body are quite large. in addition to this, if they have really spent time getting the valving correct, as they have stated, then these are really good. really good valving will provide both good road irregularity handling and all-out performance at the same time. most aftermarket coilovers can't usually do both well.
because, when it comes down to it, most coilovers are the exact same, it is just in the details that certain ones excel.
i like how the guy who reviewed them on the 240sx forum mentions shock dyno testing soon, so hopefully we get to see that

what impresses me the most is the overall contruction of these coilovers. they certainly look well built, and the pistons and body are quite large. in addition to this, if they have really spent time getting the valving correct, as they have stated, then these are really good. really good valving will provide both good road irregularity handling and all-out performance at the same time. most aftermarket coilovers can't usually do both well.
because, when it comes down to it, most coilovers are the exact same, it is just in the details that certain ones excel.
I'll update everyone this week once the shipment hits.
I assume that we bought out all the FC ones, there should be FD ones left. I have a couple FC's left but down to two i think.
Thanks, Rishie
I assume that we bought out all the FC ones, there should be FD ones left. I have a couple FC's left but down to two i think.
Thanks, Rishie
Ok so make sure you guys set the spring preloads before installing them. Mine were a bit loose. So flip the thing upside down and add preload by moving the lower spring perch to make the spring more snug/secure. you should be able to grip the spring with your hand and slowly turn it. You don't want it to be so tight that you can't spin it at all with a firm grip. Keep in mind your springs will break in, so you might have to adjust preload again in a couple weeks.
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I would have gotten mine this morning but no one was home, so I'm basically chasing the FedEx person to get them tonight. I have to meet her at an exit on the highway on her way home, haha. Thanks Rishie.



