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Old 02-07-11, 08:39 PM
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Made a little press out of a 3/8 bolt and some very large washers... won't know how they perform but i'll tell you that 1) stock bushings were a B**** to get out. and in a few hours 2) how easy the new ones are to put in.
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Originally Posted by ptrhahn
I don't suspect anyone would be able to tell the difference in a Pepsi Challenge between SuperPro and PowerFlex. Get what you can get conveniently and at the right price.
what bushings are not included that you need to get OEM? besides the sway bars(another kit would work and cheaper too), shock mounts and i believe the number 8 in the picture below(Rear Track Control Arm Inner Bushing if not getting from pf) is that it?


but i added what i needed from power flex, (do not need red,)

Shipped for these items from pf is 492.35 to my door.. cheaper than sp (560.00 shipped)

now i might have a change of heart for the extra $72.65 since i am getting exactly what i need and not have to sell the extra bushings i wouldn't need.

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1 - Front Lower Wishbone Front Bushing PFF36-301 x2
2 - Front Lower Wishbone Rear Bushing PFF36-302 x2
3 - Front Upper Wishbone Bushing PFF36-303 x4
5 - Front Anti Roll Bar Mounting Bushing (29mm) PFF36-305 x2
6 - Power Steering Rack Mount Kit PFF36-306 x2
7 - Rear Trailing Arm Front Bushing PFR36-307 x2
8 - Rear Track Control Arm Inner Bushing PFR36-308 x2
9 - Rear Upper Wishbone Bushing PFR36-309 x4
10 - Rear Upper Wishbone Outer Bushing PFR36-310 x2
11 - Rear Diff To Cross Member Bushing PFR36-311 x2
15 - Rear Anti Roll Bar Mounting Bushing (18mm) PFR36-315 x2
18 - Rear Toe Adjuster Outer Bushing PFR36-318 x2
19 - Rear Toe Adjuster Inner Bushing PFR36-319 x2





Originally Posted by ptrhahn
I don't suspect anyone would be able to tell the difference in a Pepsi Challenge between SuperPro and PowerFlex. Get what you can get conveniently and at the right price.

like he says^ seems like pf might be my choice now... funny how ill have all pf bushings but have Sp diff bushings haha
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Well,
You may or may not have purchased aftermarket sway bars already, which almost certainly came with their own urathane or other bushings if they're worth a squirt. then you've probably done the aftermarket toe/trailing links for more wheel clearance. Scratch those.

The only bushing SuperPro doesn't make is the lower inner rear arm/subframe bushing (#8 on diagram). The factory one is basically a pillow ball encased in rubber. I don't think you want to replace that with urathane necessarily, it's meant to rotate on more than one axis.
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I ordered one from them (#8) so I guess I'll find out!
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Originally Posted by ptrhahn

The only bushing SuperPro doesn't make is the lower inner rear arm/subframe bushing (#8 on diagram). The factory one is basically a pillow ball encased in rubber. I don't think you want to replace that with urathane necessarily, it's meant to rotate on more than one axis.
doesnt look like a pillow ball type bushing from the diagram.. maybe someone who has gotten a full pf bushing can chime in.
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just a little teaser...

My 3 dollar Press haha

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One thing I have noticed is that when doing the rear upper control arm.. the shock mount bushing seems to have a little slop in it..

Also.... the front lower control arm.. they put the two longer inserts and 2 shorter inserts into seperate bags.. when I installed the 2 shorter ones into the arm.. I instantly noticed one wasn't long enough. So just be aware that that you need to open both packages first and take one insert from each.. 1 long and 1 short for each individual bushing.
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^ Lookin good - beats the heck out of rubber

btw, if anyone is looking for the Superpro toe link or control arm bushings, just send me a PM, I'll sell my (new, unopened) ones for a good price.
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how much did you pay for your kit?
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$500 incl shipping
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From where?
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Originally Posted by ptrhahn
I don't suspect anyone would be able to tell the difference in a Pepsi Challenge between SuperPro and PowerFlex. Get what you can get conveniently and at the right price.
Yeah i doubt it. I went superpro mostly to support a forum vendor total was 520 shipped if i remember correctly.
Originally Posted by mannykiller
just a little teaser...

My 3 dollar Press haha
[IMG]http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/yy325/mannykiller/IMG_20110207_220711.jpg[IMG]
finished product
[IMG]http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/yy325/mannykiller/IMG_20110207_202232.jpg[/IG]

One thing I have noticed is that when doing the rear upper control arm.. the shock mount bushing seems to have a little slop in it..

Also.... the front lower control arm.. they put the two longer inserts and 2 shorter inserts into seperate bags.. when I installed the 2 shorter ones into the arm.. I instantly noticed one wasn't long enough. So just be aware that that you need to open both packages first and take one insert from each.. 1 long and 1 short for each individual bushing.
I'd like to see what you used to get the old ones out.
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Originally Posted by FD3S2005
doesnt look like a pillow ball type bushing from the diagram.. maybe someone who has gotten a full pf bushing can chime in.
Right. The Powerflex bushing isn't, and that's what the diagram is of. The factory one apparently is. The action on it is definitely like a pillow ball, and not like the other rubber bushings, which have some "spring" to them because they are flexing rubber.
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I was saying from the diagram that it does not look like a pillowball bilushing the one on post 22, I might call ray tomorrow to get pricing on a couple things I'll ask about that bushing
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Does anyone know where the Control arm Inner bushings go on the Super-pro kit? or have a picture of it? i'm having problems on the install...
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Originally Posted by FD3S2005
From where?
Already responded - forum vendor, just search for Superpro bushings
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Originally Posted by mannykiller
Does anyone know where the Control arm Inner bushings go on the Super-pro kit? or have a picture of it? i'm having problems on the install...
What's the part number on it?
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Originally Posted by yzf-r1
Already responded - forum vendor, just search for Superpro bushings
ARD T2, but i don't think he is a forum vendor anymore.
Old 02-09-11, 11:39 AM
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i have a complete set that laying around. anyone here want take them, let me know.
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I'm going to try installing zerks with grooves in the bushings to assist distribution of the grease and about having to pull the A-arms out for re-greasing/service. Polyurethane bushings with a lip on both ends cannot removed for greasing without ruining them
http://www.nissanroadracing.com/show...highlight=zerk

Keep these things greased and there's no reason they shouldn't last indefinitely. I've seen pictures of these things with 35k miles and they look brand new. They don't wear out and deteriorate like rubber. Rubber is vastly inferior imo
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^Do you feel that cutting the grooves in the bushings like that is necessary? I understand the concept, but the idea of "hacking" up a $500 bushing kit doesnt sit well with me. I was planning on installing zerks when I do mine, but as for now I dont think I will be dremmeling the bushings.
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Shallow grooves - that's all you need - aren't going to significantly impact the strength of the bushing. Without them the grease has no place to go, and it won't be evenly distributed.
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For those who ordered powerflex, did you get them straight off their website, or through a vendor? I have aftermarket toe links, trailing arms, and swaybars to which I will not need bushings. I prices out just the "rest" that Id need on powerflex's site, and it was still like $415. I can get a full superpro set for not much more than that, and just sell the ones I dont use. Are powerflexs really that much more expensive?
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I bought them right off the website. I've seen kits on a few websites, but they weren't any cheaper ($500+), and, as you said, I didn't need the toe links and trailing arms
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grr i think i might go with super pro... selling off the parts i dont need i should equal out to what id pay for power flex. but it will have to wait a good while
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any one got an idea of how much diff, toe and trailing super pro bushings sell for?


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