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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 11:53 PM
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Mirabile's car is VERY nice and i love what he did with it. But i wouldn't call it a track car with those 20" rims. It kind of reminds me of of this article where a veilside 350z went against a mildly tuned Nismo car and the Nismo won.
Old Dec 19, 2006 | 11:58 PM
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I race. I have high-dollar parts. (3 rotors worth) and I will race you in whatever you want if you make it worth my while. Auto-X. Whatever you wananaananna do. You better come to the show and support though.
Old Dec 20, 2006 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by turbodrx7
Did you honestly just tell us your mods...and include steering wheel?

Calling names to a forum veteran that knows more about the rx7, and most cars in general than you ever will is just making you look like a bigger moron than you really are...

steering wheel is a mod, seating position n a RACE car is very important
stock wheels are for *******, u can NOT feel good with any sort of stock wheel
your seating position and being comfortable is top priority
im 6'5 and had to customize my seat rails and have a dished wheel to accomidate my large frame, my point was that the motor is the last thing on the plate for me to mod cause i wanted to use the naturally torquey motor and was a good base to learn on with what a whole 100hp and full suspension, drivetrain and my interior setup to feel at home, THAT is what ppl should be doing to better their ****** driving, not adding in power power power.

regardless, daryll knows who i am and my views and ya i do come off as a dick cause all these TT owners (Z32, FD and Poopras) all have narrow minded owners who dont think outside the box. daryll in no way represents me or my thougths cause apparently i coem off as a kid hahaha. so be it, you guys just need to accept theres more than one way to mod a car.

plenty of street legal drift cars out of japan setup like our drift cars walk circles around your set ups, so ur theory of our low offset wheels, slammed ride height and STEERING WHEELS are plenty functional

soooo
Old Dec 20, 2006 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by mirabile
I race. I have high-dollar parts. (3 rotors worth) and I will race you in whatever you want if you make it worth my while. Auto-X. Whatever you wananaananna do. You better come to the show and support though.
Haha, i don't race man, i don't have the financial backing like you do (obviously). I'd like to see some pics of you at the track: In the twisties, videos, etc. I've seen the BRS autobody drift pictures and that was pretty cool.
Old Dec 20, 2006 | 12:44 AM
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battleaxe you sound like a fan boy. hahah

driftdreamz, yeah big buddy, been on here for awhile. then zack's buddy with a s14 on white TE37s referred me to roll his fenders. such a small community i swear.
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It's like you guys are assuming he's only rolled his fenders and he's going to run stock alignment settings. If that's your cup of tea, then keep it that way....By the way, I don't want to plug in my work because this is his thread, but I do guarantee if you need to roll or pull more considering your set up, I do pull fender arches for more clearance as I did with zach's but kept his to a minimum (since he wanted near perfect clearance). So in the end, I can flare it more than i did with his set up right now (since you guys can't tell from the picture)..... The liner tabs are usually hammered out of the way or removed. He's not running any liner to my knowledge. He may install it later, but it's not detrimental as it's not his daily driver. As for the harness, he can relocate it to run through the engine bay by splicing the harness if it's such a concern. And the good thing about modifying a car, he can decide if he needs a wider tire depending on his power/alignment/type of tire. He can modify the fender whether he wants by calling me up to do it or he might opt for a wide over fender kit. Or if it's rubbing on the inside, there's a nice option called the craftsman hammer.
Oh NOW all this comes out???

I'm ROFLMAO at you guys....******* your cars up to run skinnier tires than those of us with PROPERLY fitting wheels. Just to achieve the latest "mad tyte drifter yo" look. ******* hilarious.
Old Dec 20, 2006 | 01:17 AM
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I like the way that the thread starters car looks is awesome. Hopefully it doesn't snag the fender.
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I like this thread
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I like this thread
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So any stock steering wheel or seat is gay?

I think it all depends on application. In my personal case, I drive my FD maybe 3k miles per year, mainly street driving. Sure, I hope to do road race events, but I'll be lucky to get 2 or 3 in a year. Living in an apt in brooklyn and having the car stored in NJ makes it tough, not to mention the winter weather. I'm also 5 foot 6, so all you giants keep that in mind .

For a steering wheel, I considered a smaller sparco, but decided I wanted to keep my airbag. I ended up choosing an OEM Nardi wheel from Japan that's 10mm smaller in diameter than stock. I like the look and the feel, and with my removed p/s I have plenty of feedback.



For seats, I also considered some carbon fiber buckets, but didn't see the point. From a cost and comfort perspective, the R2 seats I ended up buying are perfect for me. I've road raced about a dozen times with my stock R1 seats and always felt they performed well.

I think it's funny that I supposedly have some 'gay' street car b/c of the steering wheel and seats. Deleted p/s and a/c, full 4 inch turboback exhaust, diff brace, poly motor and diff mounts, clutch type diff, solid toe link/trailing arms, widefoot gas pedal etc etc. Different strokes for different folks, guys
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Originally Posted by apex_sideway
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...4&page=1&pp=15

Mirabile's car is VERY nice and i love what he did with it. But i wouldn't call it a track car with those 20" rims. It kind of reminds me of of this article where a veilside 350z went against a mildly tuned Nismo car and the Nismo won.
I agree, I like his car too. I'd seen it before in that thread but I forgot where I'd seen it. I think his looks better than Jay Laub's car, even though they share alot of the same cues (same body kit, oversize wheels, etc.), Mirabile's car doesn't seem to have TOO much going on like Jay's car does, at least back when it was orange (he had all the **** inside hanging from the dash, PS2, **** like that). I know that I wouldn't have the money to throw around building a car like that and then racing it though. I remember that article too. As far as autocross, another thing people don't realize (and I've been hearing this more and more lately), is that you can have all the crazy parts and power on your car, but if you haven't taken any classes/and or just don't know what you're doing, you'll get your *** handed to you by a skilled driver in a STOCK car. There are Miata's out there that would KILL alot of FDs and their cocky driver's in autocross...now THAT'S humbling, haha.

Originally Posted by mirable
I race. I have high-dollar parts. (3 rotors worth) and I will race you in whatever you want if you make it worth my while. Auto-X. Whatever you wananaananna do. You better come to the show and support though.
^Case in point, (this post along with the previous "assrape" post)...how does he know what my driving skills are, and whether or not I race all the time? He knows nothing about me or my driving skills, or for that matter what I have done to my car for sure. And saying he'll beat me in ANYTHING? I kinda figured it was a young kid saying this kind of stuff.

Originally Posted by battleaxe
stock wheels are for *******, u can NOT feel good with any sort of stock wheel
I assume you're talking about the actual wheels and not the steering wheel? I've seen alot of people running stock FD wheels in autocross...they're lighter than almost every aftermarket wheel out there, so aside from the occasional cracking (haha, hey everything has it's flaws), I'd say they're pretty good from the factory.
Old Dec 20, 2006 | 12:06 PM
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Oh NOW all this comes out???

I'm ROFLMAO at you guys....******* your cars up to run skinnier tires than those of us with PROPERLY fitting wheels. Just to achieve the latest "mad tyte drifter yo" look. ******* hilarious.
Does it make difference? Have you seen that his motor is out? It's not "*******" anything up if you know what you're doing. In your obvious case, you lack a real strong point other than to blame it on the mad tyte drifter yo look when don't have the experience fitting those types of sizes. By the way mr. high and mighty moderator, running skinnier tires doesn't cause you to modify anything. The height of his car dumped on coilovers would. I'm sorry, but some of you guys seem like bolt-on queens. "Bolt this off, bolt this on. Oh NOES I think some rubber chunked on my fender liner cuz it rubbed. I gotta replace this OEM fender lining with new fender lining. waaah waaaaah."

Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
I think it's funny that I supposedly have some 'gay' street car b/c of the steering wheel and seats. Deleted p/s and a/c, full 4 inch turboback exhaust, diff brace, poly motor and diff mounts, clutch type diff, solid toe link/trailing arms, widefoot gas pedal etc etc. Different strokes for different folks, guys
Hey Goodfella, I never said having a stock seat is gay, but I find that it's a worthy upgrade and more extreme than most of you are willing to go for a daily driven track car. And obviously, we agree, different strokes for different folks. So why try to act like yours is a end all to PROPER set ups. Now if you're talking about your car set up for the most comfortable daily driver, sure, but you guys act like it has to be one way or the highway.
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Originally Posted by drift into a curb
Does it make difference? Have you seen that his motor is out? It's not "*******" anything up if you know what you're doing. In your obvious case, you lack a real strong point other than to blame it on the mad tyte drifter yo look when don't have the experience fitting those types of sizes. By the way mr. high and mighty moderator, running skinnier tires doesn't cause you to modify anything. The height of his car dumped on coilovers would. I'm sorry, but some of you guys seem like bolt-on queens. "Bolt this off, bolt this on. Oh NOES I think some rubber chunked on my fender liner cuz it rubbed. I gotta replace this OEM fender lining with new fender lining. waaah waaaaah."
taking hammers to fenders, removing liner tabs, running no liners is ******* a car up. Sorry, this is an FD, not some 20-year old POS 240SX. And all that just to run 225 and 245-width tires.

I'm so glad that there's a crowd that thinks a 245 tire stretched on a low-rider looking wheel looks better than a 285 properly fitted in the wheel well. The term "poseur" comes to mind.
Old Dec 20, 2006 | 12:40 PM
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... "Bolt this off, bolt this on. Oh NOES I think some rubber chunked on my fender liner cuz it rubbed. I gotta replace this OEM fender lining with new fender lining. waaah waaaaah."

I think your clueless...

you do realize that the wiring harness runs thru the fender liner? People have had your same careless and clueless attitude just to later post that they FUBAR'd there electrical.

And I personally think you are the "bolt it on" queen here. If you would have done the math and calcs you could achieve the same look but with wider rubber.

But keep being stubborn and arrogant, it will get you far
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And I personally think you are the "bolt it on" queen here. If you would have done the math and calcs you could achieve the same look but with wider rubber.
EXACTLY! If you're going to have to "massage the fenders", at least do it to run a big tire. But that would be too performance oriented for these poseurs.
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^Case in point, (this post along with the previous "assrape" post)...how does he know what my driving skills are, and whether or not I race all the time? He knows nothing about me or my driving skills, or for that matter what I have done to my car for sure. And saying he'll beat me in ANYTHING? I kinda figured it was a young kid saying this kind of stuff.
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I know my own driving skills. I know I am out of your league. I know your car can not compete. Prove me wrong on anything.
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Jay Laub did a lot for the rotary community. He got RX-7s more known, whether thats a good thing or a bad thing, is up to you. He has won everything on the show circuit there is to win. Granted, he has a laser light show in his car, PS2 and a bunch of other crazy **** like that...His car was purpose built to win shows, not the same purpose for which I bought and built my car. I had the stereo system in the back of my car made totally removable for tracking. Why have a stereo? The reason is points at these shows. Believe it or not, first place averages $1500-2000. Take home a few 1st places, and your starting to eat away at the money into the car....
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Originally Posted by mirabile
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I know my own driving skills. I know I am out of your league. I know your car can not compete. Prove me wrong on anything.
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Saying one's car cannot compete with someone else's is kind of pointless. That just comes down to who spent the most money on their car (i.e. who claiming their d*ck is bigger when nobody cares).

Now, if you two want to see who has better driving skills; meet up at a Karting track and duke it out through some laps.
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I know my own driving skills. I know I am out of your league. I know your car can not compete. Prove me wrong on anything.
Wow, another arrogant jackass. This thread should be retitled "jackass magnet".

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Jay Laub did a lot for the rotary community.
Yeah, great, it sunk the FD further into the "import community", with all the negative connotations that implies.
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taking hammers to fenders, removing liner tabs, running no liners is ******* a car up. Sorry, this is an FD, not some 20-year old POS 240SX. And all that just to run 225 and 245-width tires.

I'm so glad that there's a crowd that thinks a 245 tire stretched on a low-rider looking wheel looks better than a 285 properly fitted in the wheel well. The term "poseur" comes to mind.
Please explain how removing a liner is ******* the car up. Specifically how it ruins your performance of your car. If you're talking about lowering resale value or possibly getting dirt inside the fender, that's a weak argument. Come up with something a bit stronger. And by the way, one of my cars happens to be a 240sx but it's not a 20 year old, it's a 10 year old POS, and happens to be newer than most of your FDs. By poser you happen to mean yourself cuz you use exact same specific wheel set ups that you read off the internet from the guy next to you and called for advice from your local Discount tire guy.

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I think your clueless...

you do realize that the wiring harness runs thru the fender liner? People have had your same careless and clueless attitude just to later post that they FUBAR'd there electrical.

And I personally think you are the "bolt it on" queen here. If you would have done the math and calcs you could achieve the same look but with wider rubber.

I don't think rx7 owners read that well, so I'll excuse you this time.. If you had read earlier, he can relocate his harness. His motor is out, as is his harness. You do realize you can relocate/splice your harness and run it inside your engine bay right instead of thru the fender liner right? Is that too hard to achieve with your thickheaded skull or do i have to be a broken record? I've re-wired my car to run the harness thru the engine bay as well. And yeah I'm the bolt on queen -- I can run custom size wheels with wide rubber that I want without any hassle from the rx7club because I can flare my own fenders. haha you guys are funny. Plague can run wider sizes if he wants and i'll even flare it out more so he could fit wider if he wants. Quit being such poopie heads
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Wow, another arrogant jackass. This thread should be retitled "jackass magnet".

Close but it should be "ignorant fools -- when moderators act up"
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First, using the "same" offsets, or using those in the range that others have used before doesn't make you a "bolt-on queen". This car hhas been around for 13 years, and there's a great wealth of information about them and what does and doesn't work. If you don't avail yourself of that knowledge, and instead jack-up your car in the name of patting yourself on the back for being "different", you're pretty ******* ignorant.

You kids crack me up with your starving to be "different" and "stand out" at all costs. I've never seen a generation so starved for attention.

Not running the liner exposes your wiring harness, removes the oil cooler exit duct, changes the airflow, and exposes your superlight alluminum and easily dented fenders to rocks and such. Many of these cars have dimples in the fender just from some jack *** leaning on it to change the oil filter.

I think you can continue to kid yourself about how "extreme" and unorthodox you are, doing all that work, rewiring harnesses, massaging fenders, etc. and for what? To run 245's. What a joke.

Call me when you've put some REAL RUBBER on your car as a result of all that work, not just a "phat lip", and make sure that massive rubber fits without running 5 degrees of camber, and then you can say something.




Originally Posted by drift into a curb
Please explain how removing a liner is ******* the car up. Specifically how it ruins your performance of your car. If you're talking about lowering resale value or possibly getting dirt inside the fender, that's a weak argument. Come up with something a bit stronger. And by the way, one of my cars happens to be a 240sx but it's not a 20 year old, it's a 10 year old POS, and happens to be newer than most of your FDs. By poser you happen to mean yourself cuz you use exact same specific wheel set ups that you read off the internet from the guy next to you and called for advice from your local Discount tire guy.




I don't think rx7 owners read that well, so I'll excuse you this time.. If you had read earlier, he can relocate his harness. His motor is out, as is his harness. You do realize you can relocate/splice your harness and run it inside your engine bay right instead of thru the fender liner right? Is that too hard to achieve with your thickheaded skull or do i have to be a broken record? I've re-wired my car to run the harness thru the engine bay as well. And yeah I'm the bolt on queen -- I can run custom size wheels with wide rubber that I want without any hassle from the rx7club because I can flare my own fenders. haha you guys are funny. Plague can run wider sizes if he wants and i'll even flare it out more so he could fit wider if he wants. Quit being such poopie heads
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Please explain how removing a liner is ******* the car up. Specifically how it ruins your performance of your car. If you're talking about lowering resale value or possibly getting dirt inside the fender, that's a weak argument. Come up with something a bit stronger. And by the way, one of my cars happens to be a 240sx but it's not a 20 year old, it's a 10 year old POS, and happens to be newer than most of your FDs. By poser you happen to mean yourself cuz you use exact same specific wheel set ups that you read off the internet from the guy next to you and called for advice from your local Discount tire guy.




I don't think rx7 owners read that well, so I'll excuse you this time.. If you had read earlier, he can relocate his harness. His motor is out, as is his harness. You do realize you can relocate/splice your harness and run it inside your engine bay right instead of thru the fender liner right? Is that too hard to achieve with your thickheaded skull or do i have to be a broken record? I've re-wired my car to run the harness thru the engine bay as well. And yeah I'm the bolt on queen -- I can run custom size wheels with wide rubber that I want without any hassle from the rx7club because I can flare my own fenders. haha you guys are funny. Plague can run wider sizes if he wants and i'll even flare it out more so he could fit wider if he wants. Quit being such poopie heads
Your a complete idiot. running without fender liners is not how the car is meant to be run, so dont run it like that. Period. If you have to take out a fender liner to fit something, it doesnt fit right. Plain and simple. Your car may be newer than our cars, but does it really make a difference? Your still driving a $1k 240sx and running 18x10 with a retarded offset with 215s. You just wasted money on a BIG wheels, to run gay *** tires and have your wheels stick out 5 feet past your fenders. It is an absolutly stupid arguement. If you have to rewire your car, then its not right. If you have to move something to fit a wheel, your retarded. Get the right offsets, and if you still feel like stretching your tires go for it. These cars arnt low riders that you put bags on and drag the frames on the ground, they are well designed sports cars that a meant for the track.
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Good thing i don't have a show car. Then I'd have to worry about dinging my precious fenders. Boo hoo. What are you, a civic owner? They're the only ones **** enough that you bump a honda panel and it goes creasing. You seem to have a point about the oil cooler ducting, but I have a aftermarket oil cooler with seperate ducting and that's not a hard fix. You can still maintain the front ducting/liner and remove the top/rear to clear your wheels if your car is low enough. Also rewiring harnesses aren't hard nor extreme. His motor is out. Open your eyes. Observe.

Actually I don't use crazy amounts of camber, I run my own alignment settings with minimal camber around -2 to 2.25 with fully adjustable links on my car, so I don't know where you think your 5 degrees of camber came from. I don't output much power as well, but I run a conservative 235/40 front and 255/35 in the rear. And can run wider if I decide so. By the way, I don't personally run wheels with phat lips, i have forged mono blocks myself.

Originally Posted by ptrhahn
First, using the "same" offsets, or using those in the range that others have used before doesn't make you a "bolt-on queen". This car hhas been around for 13 years, and there's a great wealth of information about them and what does and doesn't work. If you don't avail yourself of that knowledge, and instead jack-up your car in the name of patting yourself on the back for being "different", you're pretty ******* ignorant.

You kids crack me up with your starving to be "different" and "stand out" at all costs. I've never seen a generation so starved for attention.

Not running the liner exposes your wiring harness, removes the oil cooler exit duct, changes the airflow, and exposes your superlight alluminum and easily dented fenders to rocks and such. Many of these cars have dimples in the fender just from some jack *** leaning on it to change the oil filter.

I think you can continue to kid yourself about how "extreme" and unorthodox you are, doing all that work, rewiring harnesses, massaging fenders, etc. and for what? To run 245's. What a joke.

Call me when you've put some REAL RUBBER on your car as a result of all that work, not just a "phat lip", and make sure that massive rubber fits without running 5 degrees of camber, and then you can say something.
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By poser you happen to mean yourself cuz you use exact same specific wheel set ups that you read off the internet from the guy next to you and called for advice from your local Discount tire guy.
Um, no, I mean people who **** up their cars AND THE PERFORMANCE to run something just for appearance sake. Which is what you guys are doing. Gee, I guess there is something wrong with running wheels and tires that actually fit? And know, I know quite a bit about wheels/tires thank you very much, no calls to Discount Tire required.

Close but it should be "ignorant fools -- when moderators act up"
I KNOW what fitments work on an FD without ******* the car up. With wider tires than you poseurs run. So who's ignorant. Besides, it was the "mad tyte drifter yo" crowd that started the **** in this thread anyway and have pretty much acted like 5-year olds throughout. Nothing surprising there.



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