rynberg

Wow, you seem to have quite the hooked up and modified FD. Let's see it.

drift into a curb

Actually have a stock FC, built ae86 and soon to be built 240sx. But my previous housemate has a FD that we fit Work Emo CR KAI that you guys said would NOT fit, yet it did, so this is how plague decided on his wheel set up. I have been working on fenders and fitting wheels for quite awhile now. I used to do custom set ups for Autobacs USA. I don't need an FD to tell me if it's going to fit or not, but it's good to see you guys are open minded.

plaguepunx

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I love this thread and how angry people get. I still dont understand why everyone is upset. Some people seem to for get that this is a hobby. Im not making a car to start a career...Im doing it because its fun. I really dont care if my car is the fastest around a track or the fastest around some cones or even if i can have the cleanest drift.

So heres the list of your arguments

1. Resell value. I love my car too much so I really dont plan on selling it ever. Also I dont see you guys saying **** to Damian who has "lowered the value" by making his car a full race car.

2. The tires are gonna rub. Well then I make them not rub.

3. Camber makes tires wear out more quickly. Tires were pretty cheap and doesnt really concern me.

4. My car will not grip. My tires will grip enough for what I am doing. Im not taking corners fast enough to worry about grip. Maybe in the future I will buy a new set of rims for grip. I would not buy a set of VSKFs for high speed grip driving because they are pretty damn heavy. Maybe ill by a set of enkeis in "rx7club freindly" offset later for non drift track events.

5. Im going to damage my car and wiring harness. As James tried to say multiple times the harness is going to be relocated so I dont munch through any wires.

Is there anything I missed? I dont see why people on here try to tell everyone what the "proper offset is" There is no such thing. There is no such thing as the best for every application. Just like anything you will ever buy or do. You are going to get what is best going to get the result you want. Thats like telling some a porsche when all they want to do is go off roading in the mountains. Then obviously the porsche is not going to be the best choice for them, even though it will get them the fastest lap time. You first must think about what purpose you are going to build a car for then you get what is best for that purpose.

LeeTheSlacker

this is a battle between two different crowds.

sure you may like running 265s up from and 295s out back, thats great. If you need that much grip to run the tracks you like and do what you want to with your car, go for it, thats youre ball game.

If you slide, theres no way in hell youre going to be burning up 295s unless youre pushing some serious horsepower, so the drifting guys go with smaller tires. and running a front bias stagger like 265 front 235 back is only going to make the car impossible to handle, so they run smaller tires up front too to balance the car out.

neither of these is "ruining the cars performance", theyre just different ways of making the car perform better at whatever the owner wants to do with it.

maximum grip for road racing fun = bigger tires
decent grip for sliding fun = smaller tires, often stretched because it stiffens up the sidewalls and makes life better.

i see how this thread got here to 12 pages, as this forum is predominantly populated by guys who like to run grip and autocross, and dont understand how some people dont need maximum tire contact and traction from theyre cars. But everyone has different styles and hobbbies, if you cant respect how the drifters do things and blatantly call them retarded for what they do, then dont expect them to have any respect for what you do and how you mod your car.

moral of the story, be a little more open minded, run waht you want and respect what other people are doing, if theyre not following the guide to road racing super grip fitment, then they probably arent road racing and dont need all that tire. Find some mutual respect for one another.

rynberg

So in other words, you blatantly lied in the post above about how you have all these mods done to accomodate wheels?

It degenerated into this because a few of us pointed out (not rudely) that your wheels weren't really going to fit. The "mad tyte" crowd jumped in with a bunch of immature inflammatory comments and off she went.

You can run smaller stretched tires on proper fitting wheels and achieve everything you talked about without ******* the car up. These fitments are the latest JDM-drifter fad and have nothing to do with performance of any kind whatsoever.

As to everyone being respectful and openminded, perhaps you should read the differences in attitude between the two camps shown in the first few pages of this thread.

drift into a curb

I've done these mods on my own car(s). And in other cases, I was referring to plague's car or driftdreamz car since I've worked on both. Do you rx7club people not read? Please explain because you keep dodging with a weak argument.

And by the way, does Work Emo CR Kai Sound like FORGED monoblock to you? CR Kai are cast wheels FYI.

ptrhahn

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Huh?!?

No, it's not a civic, it's NICE CAR that I don't want dinged up. If you wanna run around in the homebuilt garage special piece of dogmeat, that's on you dude. I'll again use the example, you don't see guys with Porsche's and Ferraris jacking their cars up because they're nice cars. That way they don't look like jerry-rigging morons. Maybe the fenders on a 240 SX truck are heavy steel, but in lighweight sportscars like the RX7, body panels bend. Alluminum bodied ferraris and Cobras are the same way.

One question. I you DON'T have phat lips AND you don't have wide tires either then what the **** are you doing? What do you need that offset for? You certainly don't need increased track, because you're going to slide anyway right? You've got more than enough room to mount the wheels and tires you're running, so it's all about fashion.

plaguepunx

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Ahh rynberg. Actually the post were really rude. "good job wasting your money," "as it sits now its like looking at a Civic with really expensive 16x7's.... whooodeeedoooooo" "People pay $240/hr. for my taste, and I think this looks like ***." but I dont really care about that. I also do not see how I "fucked my car up"????? because rolled my fenders? There you go with the "proper fit" again. There is not such thing. This is the proper fit to me. And this thread was in decent shape until that jackass boasting about how much he gets paid came along. Then all hell broke loose. I can respect your opinion about wider tires however they are not needed in my application. Most people on this forum seem to believe I am some ricer for mot running massive tires. We all have valid points and different goals for our cars. Just because my opinion is different from yours doesnt mean im wrong or stupid as you put. Most people in this thread havent even had a argument they just said "nope your wrong and a dumbass"

speedjunkie

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Whatever you say, you're the 23 y.o. professional phenom racecar driver here. So what classes have you taken? In what races do you compete? How many times have you competed? *patiently waiting for an interesting story* Thanks for posting again, all you're doing is supporting my point.

I'd also like to thank Jay for turning another beautiful FD into an otherwise useless POS. I still don't understand why it's so important to win an award at a car show. I could give two ***** that he's won everything there is to win at a car show. I don't give a **** if anyone else likes my car. I don't need to dump thousands of dollars into it for an outrageous body kit that will more than likely just hinder performance, just so it looks good (to some people). Go for what you know though.

Exactly.

Couldn't agree more.

DriftDreamzSS

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not me: and **** these rx7 owners
not me: man i'd be embarrassed to own an fd
not me: sharing the same title as these *** hats
me: wtf??
me: what are you talking about?
me: did you read the rx7club thread?
not me: hahaha
not me: yah i feel stupid now
me: ha

mirabile

Your a total idiot.
A body kit that will hinder your cars performance....You my friend no nothing about RX-7s. The RE-Amemiya kit that Jay runs is very functional. Go to http://www.re-amemiya.co.jp/ and learn something. As for myself, I have been racing karts since I was 8 years old. I have gone to bondurant, and raced at pocono. I think you have 0 knowledge about these cars, don't know how to drive at all, and further, you are jealous of people who put money into their cars.

drift into a curb

No offense, but you don't have a 100+ grand porsche or ferrari where as parts are usually one off and need to be replaced by some euro company. Thanks for telling me my 240sx is a truck. I caught that but no thanks, it's a coupe. My point is leave all that stuff to carpet show queens. You say it's a daily driven "track car." That's what irks me, track car. At the track it's going to get thrashed anyway. If it's just a spirited driver that you like to call a track car and you don't drive it at the track then you're the poser.

One answer. Actually the increased track is nice. Stability is good. You act like it doesn't take consistency and accuracy to drive like they do at 70-90mph entries sliding. I like how my car drives with the wider track. I've driven other set ups and don't like it as much. Everyone that has driven my car (when it was in commission) thought it very solid and neutral. Most of it is overdone, but you could still have flush wheels and be tucked in there without the mexi-flush look but it's all your preference. It doesn't have to be sunk 10-20mm cuz you didn't calculate for that wide tire and you bought a poor offset. In plague's case he measured and calculated that it would fit without much problems. It's not hard to "massage" the fender, so why is there so much fuss?


I respect people that want to run wider wheels if they want. And i respect the fact that if they want to run a wider tire later, they easily can. I don't automatically cry wolf and make fun of your guy's offsets although you could easily pull off another 7-10mm offset on GoodFella's car with the awesomely wide tires he has. That's fine if he doesn't want to do that, but like i pointed out, you think it's your way or the highway.

mirabile

Rynberg, did you read the thread. I know you think your kind of a big deal, and pipe in whenever you want, but easy calling me an arrogant jackass. I am not even close to one. Ask around a little bit. If you read the thread, you might understand the connotations of that statement.

All the negative connotations of the import community? You know, its just ignorance pervading from your comments. You sit on here and judge like you actually know something. If you balance the bad connotations of the "import community" with the amount of little kids who get to learn what an FD is for the first time by looking at Jay's car, and then want one themselves, you may begin to start understanding what the guy has done for RXs. Of course maybe you dont want a younger generation to know about our cars, but that seems silly. Like it or not, the young generation comes to these shows which in turn drives the future RX-7s that are going to be built by mazda. It surely isnt you or me driving the new car market.

turbodrx7

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You and your friend are just cool as **** man! Mad props to you. If i had alot of time on my hands i would make up the same convo. ******