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Old 06-24-03, 05:57 PM
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how hard is it to bend volk rims?

i got the le37ts a couple of months ago from rishie. and the right rear is bent. i barely ever drive my fd and have not even put 1000 miles on the car since it has had the wheels. a friend of mine told me my wheel was wobbling when he was behind me, so i brought it into the shop thinking it was from the accident my car was in over the winter, while it had the stock wheels on. turns out the rim is bent. i cant beleieve it, i spent alot of money to get a good brand of rim so this wouldnt happen. i am just wondering how hard it is to bend a rim when i havent hit anything and am the only person that drives this car, what would you guys would suggest i do. call rishie? volk? im not too happy cause i am still paying for the rims and they are already fucked up. thanks for any responses.

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btw, this is my second set of 18s that i have had on the car. the first pair were a cheap set of rims that i bought for 1200 with tires new. im saying this because nothing has changed since i had them on, and i ran them problem free for a year.
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Well to be honest (and fair)...

You have to prove that the rims were bent/damaged prior to you receiving them. In that case, a vendor (such as Rishie) or the manufacturer will replace them for you.

But considering that you even acknowledge that you have driven on them, I would say....odds are...they were damaged on the road (hitting a curb, metal plate in the road, deep pothole, etc.).

Let me ask you this. Where is the damage located? On On the lip? On the center portion of the wheels? Etc.?
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Originally posted by DomFD3S
Well to be honest (and fair)...

You have to prove that the rims were bent/damaged prior to you receiving them. In that case, a vendor (such as Rishie) or the manufacturer will replace them for you.

But considering that you even acknowledge that you have driven on them, I would say....odds are...they were damaged on the road (hitting a curb, metal plate in the road, deep pothole, etc.).

Let me ask you this. Where is the damage located? On On the lip? On the center portion of the wheels? Etc.?
i have no way to prove that they were damaged prior to being put on the car. i think that if rishie noticed the wheel wasnt straight when he balanced the tires on them he would have told me. i am thinking they might be defective and the one that bent was weak for some reason. there is no damage on the rim whatsover because i didnt hit anything.
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I'm not trying to make you paranoid, but are you sure that you're the only one that has driven the car?
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try contacting volk and ask them if they have some kind of warrenty on their wheels. if there is no dammage on the wheel and they are bent you may be able to calim that it was a manufactures defect.
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Originally posted by artowar
I'm not trying to make you paranoid, but are you sure that you're the only one that has driven the car?
yea im pretty sure. the only people that live in my house are me and my parents. my mom doesnt drive stick and my dad hasnt driven it since i have had it back with the new wheels. even if someone drove it, there are no signs that the rim was hit, scratches or anything.

try contacting volk and ask them if they have some kind of warrenty on their wheels. if there is no dammage on the wheel and they are bent you may be able to calim that it was a manufactures defect.
this is what i was thinking. has anyone else tried this? i havent heard anything bad about volks before, this is why i was so surprised to hear that the wheel is bent for no reason.

thanks for everyones responses so far. does anyone know how i would go about doing what mazdaspeed00 said and try to contact volk?
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I had a nice high speed getoff a while back on a brand new set of two week old SE37A's. Bent three of them, one survived. Ran over 5" curbing backwards at about 60mph. I was surprised at how well the rims held up. They did bend but it wasn't severe.
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You still didn't say "where" the damage is located on the rim. Assuming there is damage, is it visible to the naked eye?

I would say this much. If there is no visible damage whatsoever, then it MAY be a manufacturing defect. HOWEVER, if there is damage that is not caused by the manufacturing process (like visible tire marks, scratches that occured during the tire mounting process), then the damage occured after manufacturing.

Assuming the damage occured after it left the factory, then it would have occured during shipping OR during tire mounting. If there are tire marks (near the damage area), then I would say that your tire installation place may have screwed it up and did not tell you.

Look at your rims and try to figure out what may have happend.
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Originally posted by DomFD3S
You still didn't say "where" the damage is located on the rim. Assuming there is damage, is it visible to the naked eye?

I would say this much. If there is no visible damage whatsoever, then it MAY be a manufacturing defect. HOWEVER, if there is damage that is not caused by the manufacturing process (like visible tire marks, scratches that occured during the tire mounting process), then the damage occured after manufacturing.

Assuming the damage occured after it left the factory, then it would have occured during shipping OR during tire mounting. If there are tire marks (near the damage area), then I would say that your tire installation place may have screwed it up and did not tell you.

Look at your rims and try to figure out what may have happend.
i said it before. there is zero damage to the rim. no scratches, no nothing. this is why i am thinking they may be deffective. the tire installation was done by rishie.

thanks mazdaspeed00 for all that information, i really appreciate it. im gonna get to calling.

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Originally posted by prew
i said it before. there is zero damage to the rim. no scratches, no nothing. this is why i am thinking they may be deffective. the tire installation was done by rishie.

thanks mazdaspeed00 for all that information, i really appreciate it. im gonna get to calling.

steve prew

Look, when the rim is bent, then there IS damage to it. The place where it was bent would be the damage. So, if you could kindly tell us where on the wheel the bent place is, we'd very much appreciate it and maybe we could give you better advice.

Also, pictures speak louder than words!!!
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prew: Did you compare your bad rim w/ your other good rims side by side? I would assume that since the wheel was observed to be "wobbling" by your friend, it would be very apparent IF the rim was indeed bent.

Compare them side by side and get back to us.
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there is no bend that the eye can see. therefore there is no visual damage. the rim as a whole must be bent slightly.

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Who mounted the wheels on the car? Are you sure the wheel was put on correctly? Do you have your hub centering rings on there? Only very high end (read $1000/wheel Fikse, etc) wheels are hubcentric - where you do not need centering rings.

Are you sure there is nothing caught between teh hub and the wheel to cause the wobble? Were the wheels torqued down correctly?
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Originally posted by dclin
Were the wheels torqued down correctly?
Good questions, dclin. I have heard that new wheels often need to be retorqued at 500 miles. Perhaps this is what happened?

In any case, if there is a problem with the wheel, a competent wheel shop should be able to measure/diagnose it.
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Originally posted by prew
there is no bend that the eye can see. therefore there is no visual damage. the rim as a whole must be bent slightly.

steve prew
I just read this thread again in light of dclin's comments. Steve, I assumed that you had already taken the wheel off the car and measured it before you decided it was bent and posted here. But I now see that you never said that you took it off of the car to check.

You did say that the wheel had a "wobble," which implies a side to side motion. If that's correct, then unless you removed the wheel and measured the lateral runout to confirm a problem, dclin's theory is the most likely explanation-- it's simply loose on the hub. And if you've been driving with it wobbling around, the rotor, wheel mounting face, stud holes, studs, and nuts are taking a beating*

If the wheel is correctly mounted to the car, then you can only determine that the wheel contributed to a wobble if you remove it from the car and measure it. You can do an eyeball check of that corner's hub by mounting a known good wheel at that corner to see whether the wobble goes away.




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what about your tire not being balanced properly? or maybe even a problem with the tire.
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its probably missing hub ring. The plastic ring snaps in the hub of the wheel before you mount it. If its missing you just need a hub ring. like 50 cents
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When we do mounting and balancing and send out wheels they are true no matter what. We balance and do road force measurement which hardly and place does. We have the Hunter GSP 9712. It's the top of the line balancer on the market.

The wheel was true prior to receipt. Now when you took the wheel off did you have them check for balancing again??? The wheels came with hubrings so do check to make sure it's still there.

Also, what kind of incidence have you had on the road with them. There must be one in particular that you can recall.

Was the local wheel place able to determine where the bend was on the wheel.

Thanks, Rishie
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i dont think the wheel came bent, i am wondering why it bent so easily.



let me try to clarify the situation. the wheel was wobbling, and i could make the whole hub move from front to back. i had the wheel bearing, hub, spindle, and bushings replaced. the mechanic also took the wheel and put it on the balance machine to see if it was perfect, he said it is slightly bent, but i could still use the wheel. i drove behind the car tonight while my dad drove the car, and there is no visible wobble. i am going to pull the wheel tomorow and get another opinion.
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If it's slightly bent, then there must be some damage to the suspension or frame's geometry. Keep me updated. I will help however I can.

Thanks, Rishie
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i work at a wheel shop. post a pic and i will tell you what i think. i have gone to volk to pick up wheels many many times and havent heard or seen anything like this. usually if it is bent it means it hit a pot hole or curb or sometimes the rim is just bad.
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