poss

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Does anyone have any eperience with these on the track? Their website claims they are a "track" pad you can use on the street. Rich (GoodfellaFD3S) has run them on the street for a couple years and is happy with them.

I go to the track a couple times a year at most and do 5 or so autocrosses/year, so by no means am I a hardcore racer.

njstreetrx7

goodfellas> rich uses them i went with ebc red not installed yet

GoodfellaFD3S

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Sorry I can't give you more input on them, havent made it out to the road course with the yellows on, something I intend to change this year

I can tell ya that the EBC Reds worked well for me on a 1.7 mile course out in TX (motorsport ranch), but they were completely used up after about 4 half hour lapping sessions. They probably had 5k miles street use on them prior to the track day.

poss

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ttt

hazw8st

EBC Reds would be better on the track than the greens or the yellows.

mono4lamar

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whats a good pad for someone that might go do some tracking but mainly a street car? yellows i assume...

poss

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Does this come from first hand knowledge? Their website descriptions gear the reds as more of a high performance street pad and the yellows as a "full race" pad. My question is really more along the lines of how well do the yellows work on the track, as I know there are better track pads.

From EBC's website:

EBC Red Stuff
Our semi metallic high performance road material made a flying start in saloon car racing, having clinched the Slick 50 Saloon Car Championship with the Honda of Ian Mitchell in 1997, with extensive use by many race teams going into 1999 on the Porsche 924 Championship cars and on European Citroen Saxo and BMW class racing. Now only recommended for road use in cars with 200BHP+.

Nominal friction coefficient 0.5 with approx. 50% dust reduction compared to other pads.

Since this material was introduced in late 2003, it has received many positive write ups from performance drivers of faster cars. This is a truly impressive fast road pad for repeated heavy braking. It emits far less dust than semi-metallic pads and has been proven to stop a saloon car 13 metres quicker than OEM pads from 100mph/160kph. Features EBC Brake-In™ surface coating which conditions rotor surface and accelerates pad bed-in.


EBC Yellow Stuff

“Yellowstuff” is the name for EBC’s latest full race formulation which is currently in race use in Europe and was the choice of 1999/2000/2001 series winners Nick Reynolds and Martin Bell in the BMW Class, Westfield and S2000 Championships in 2002.

Yellow Stuff is now the official brake pad of the Subaru Challenge.

Although a full race material and capable of high temperature use with very good wear life, this new formulation sets a new trend in race type brake pad compounds. The “bite” from cold is superb which is uncommon with race materials (normally requiring warm-up) and makes this a pad which can be safely used on the highway as well as on the race track. This new formulation was used by numerous championship race and rally drivers in 2004 and is truly a milestone in brake pad material development. Nominal friction coefficient 0.6 with zero rotor damage.

mono4lamar

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i guess i'll be ordering those yellows soon thanks for the info poss!!!

turbogarrett

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I've gone through a few sets of reds. They work OK on the street, when cold they are much worse than stock though. They work nice on high speed autox courses and short track stuff. On a big track(road america) they are also just OK. They will get you through the day, but lack the bite that a dedicated race pad will offer and your lap times will suffer accordingly

From my experience, which is limited compared to many others on this forum, you need to change your pads at/or before the track if you want to be fast.

Mahjik

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Not just faster, but safer! It's not a good feeling trying to brake from 100+ mph and not have any brakes to do so.

hazw8st

I have used both, although the yellows are superior, I stick to the reds because the yellows don't hook up until they are really hot. And, I drive to the track, so, yellows do me no good on the street. The best compromise are the reds.....

Mahjik

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If you need to drive on them, you should look at the N-Tech Lapping pads:

http://www.ntechengineering.com/content/Price_Sheet/

They are not great on the street, but they will get you to and from the track.

mono4lamar

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i thought the bite from the yellows was "superb". why do i hear now that they are only good when hot. is that and mumbo jumbo?

hazw8st

Hmmmmmmm...... keep in mind that there are many variables that need to be recalculated; driver, suspension, brakes, track, and most importantly driving style. I can race around Button Willow all day without touching the brake pedal once. Next time I go out I'll run a set of yellows. I think EBC yellows are great on the track...

njstreetrx7

so ur telling me u have to warm up the reds and are WORSE that stock when cold?

turbogarrett

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Yep. There is no perfect pad for all situations. The reds will work, but there are longer lasting track pads with more bite and street pads that work better(SAFER)when cold. You can probably get away with one set of pads for the rear for street and track. I like axxis ultimates for street and ntech lap day for the track.

poss

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So I've had the yellows on the street for about 50 miles (about 15 hard stops in that time) now and they are WAY better than my Hawk HPS' ever were. Even when they are cold, I can stop hard enough to kick in the anti-lock.

However, I'm getting a little bit of squeal on occasion. Not a big deal and maybe it'll go away with some more miles and/or some anti-sqeal paste.

I'll report back after I get some more miles and an upcoming autocross under my belt.

njstreetrx7

my reds have been on for week and they have ALOOOT of bite when cold

GoodfellaFD3S

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My yellows have never let out a peep, this after the Hawk HP+ that squealed like a dying pig with every tap of the brake

mono4lamar

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im so confused as to which pads to buy. people state that the yellows and reds require heating. yet other people come in and blow it away stating they have a lot of bite. whats the deal?

Mahjik

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Do you need pads for track or for street?

GoodfellaFD3S

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The yellows and reds can both be run on the streets with no problem. I daily drove on the reds years ago.